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CAA Flagship wrote:
93henfan wrote:
If they own items that are not guns, he could be correct.

For instance, if you own a car and a spoon and consider them non-guns, then you could claim to be a non-gun owner.
Would he also be correct for any item, except a gun, that owns a Democrat?
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Skjellyfetti wrote:I think you're confused by what a "Classical Liberal" is
Feel free to fill me in, try and keep it to 1 page this thread though. :coffee:
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SDHornet wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:I think you're confused by what a "Classical Liberal" is
Feel free to fill me in, try and keep it to 1 page this thread though. :coffee:
Pretty much anything Thomas Jefferson was about...?
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Ibanez wrote:
SDHornet wrote: Feel free to fill me in, try and keep it to 1 page this thread though. :coffee:
Pretty much anything Thomas Jefferson was about...?
I honestly would like to know given that in this day and age leftists have lumped classical libs into the "right wing/right of center" bucket (Tim Pool, Carl Benjamin, IDW folks). But I'll wait to see what jellybelly says, maybe somehow he can weave Russia into his explanation. :coffee:
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Justin Amash or other libertarians would be the closest to pure "classical liberals."

I'm not going to write you an essay, though. Read more here if you're curious.

https://mises.org/library/what-classical-liberalism
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∞∞∞ wrote:
kalm wrote:
How is that gonna help?
Historically, open borders and free trade between humans improve economies and standards of living. You have a larger worker pool to draw from, increase your tax base, spur the competition of ideas (aka. capitalism), improve on bureaucratic inefficiencies in trading/immigration systems, give people more choices in how to improve their lives (liberty), and strengthen peace between societies.

edit: an open border doesn't mean anyone can just come in; people can still be denied entry. If anything, it more easily tracks people from other nations who enter the United States.
We already have open borders between the states...and I guarantee people are not (and cannot be) denied entry between one state and the other...and it is impossible to track people going between states unless there is a specific reason for LE to track that person...

I’ve traveled Europe with the EU open borders...it’s just like going between the states here...there is no way to track your movements...you have to go through the EU entry when you enter an EU country from a non-EU country...but once you are in, its free movement...
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∞∞∞ wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:Not to mention that the poor, oppressed snowflakes are the same ones chanting for the elimination of guns...they gonna go take over the world with cement shakes and crowbars? :rofl: :rofl:
:roll:

I'd say half the people I know (mostly liberals) own a firearm, myself included. My gf is more liberal, feminist, more everything than me and owns one. I'd bet most liberals on here own one too. But I've yet to meet a liberal which has a fetish for a tool as much as conservatives do guns. It sits in my closet and when I feel like target shooting, it comes out. What else is there to obsess or show off about?

I care about gun control, not elimination of guns.
Wow ‘a’ firearm? Wake me up when you get up to 5...
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BDKJMU wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote: :roll:

I'd say half the people I know (mostly liberals) own a firearm, myself included. My gf is more liberal, feminist, more everything than me and owns one. I'd bet most liberals on here own one too. But I've yet to meet a liberal which has a fetish for a tool as much as conservatives do guns. It sits in my closet and when I feel like target shooting, it comes out. What else is there to obsess or show off about?

I care about gun control, not elimination of guns.
Wow ‘a’ firearm? Wake me up when you get up to 5...
Wake me up when you have five arms.
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Skjellyfetti wrote:Justin Amash or other libertarians would be the closest to pure "classical liberals."

I'm not going to write you an essay, though. Read more here if you're curious.

https://mises.org/library/what-classical-liberalism
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CitadelGrad wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:Justin Amash or other libertarians would be the closest to pure "classical liberals."

I'm not going to write you an essay, though. Read more here if you're curious.

https://mises.org/library/what-classical-liberalism
Well shit, the four horsemen of the apocalypse must be on their way. Analboy just posted a link from mises.org.
Careful there on the name calling Citadel...
The only certified "anal" experts around here would be the all boys school graduates (such as yourself)

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Chizzang wrote:
CitadelGrad wrote:
Well ****, the four horsemen of the apocalypse must be on their way. Analboy just posted a link from mises.org.
Careful there on the name calling Citadel...
The only certified "anal" experts around here would be the all boys school graduates (such as yourself)

:shock:
You mean a guy whose avatar is a diarrhea-brown “Analjelly” isn’t the resident expert?




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CID1990 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Careful there on the name calling Citadel...
The only certified "anal" experts around here would be the all boys school graduates (such as yourself)

:shock:
You mean a guy whose avatar is a diarrhea-brown “Analjelly” isn’t the resident expert?

Well hello contestant No. 2

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∞∞∞ wrote:
SDHornet wrote: :nod:

Trump putting the attention back on AOC and what she and her ilk stand for will get him another 4 years and possibly a conk House as well.
Did you guys even read the very specific people the poll interviewed?
Yes, Treep

It was a poll of those very specific people who delivered Trump to the White House in 2016.

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Col Hogan wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote: Historically, open borders and free trade between humans improve economies and standards of living. You have a larger worker pool to draw from, increase your tax base, spur the competition of ideas (aka. capitalism), improve on bureaucratic inefficiencies in trading/immigration systems, give people more choices in how to improve their lives (liberty), and strengthen peace between societies.

edit: an open border doesn't mean anyone can just come in; people can still be denied entry. If anything, it more easily tracks people from other nations who enter the United States.
We already have open borders between the states...and I guarantee people are not (and cannot be) denied entry between one state and the other...and it is impossible to track people going between states unless there is a specific reason for LE to track that person...

I’ve traveled Europe with the EU open borders...it’s just like going between the states here...there is no way to track your movements...you have to go through the EU entry when you enter an EU country from a non-EU country...but once you are in, its free movement...
I am not sure that is a good thing.


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BDKJMU wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote: :roll:

I'd say half the people I know (mostly liberals) own a firearm, myself included. My gf is more liberal, feminist, more everything than me and owns one. I'd bet most liberals on here own one too. But I've yet to meet a liberal which has a fetish for a tool as much as conservatives do guns. It sits in my closet and when I feel like target shooting, it comes out. What else is there to obsess or show off about?

I care about gun control, not elimination of guns.
Wow ‘a’ firearm? Wake me up when you get up to 5...
Lots of liberals own guns, some of them qualified to the expert level. Before my eyesight went south I could have outshot anybody here with an M-16. :coffee:
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CID1990 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Careful there on the name calling Citadel...
The only certified "anal" experts around here would be the all boys school graduates (such as yourself)

:shock:
You mean a guy whose avatar is a diarrhea-brown “Analjelly” isn’t the resident expert?




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∞∞∞ wrote:
BDKJMU wrote: Wow ‘a’ firearm? Wake me up when you get up to 5...
Wake me up when you have five arms.
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mainejeff2 wrote:#ImpeachTrump.

:coffee:
That's not good enough anymore. Lock him up.
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Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
You mean a guy whose avatar is a diarrhea-brown “Analjelly” isn’t the resident expert?

Well hello contestant No. 2

:rofl:

you can't even plan this better
I'm just disappointed we didn't get some new, creative jab at The Citadel from you... that's what I was hoping for

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∞∞∞ wrote:
SDHornet wrote:Don't worry, the second the antifa types bring out their guns, the following second will be the end of their little riots and the culture war will be over. Sadly given the rhetoric spewed by the leftists I think we see it come to that some time in the near future.
Nah, it's conservatives who have systemically given up on democracy, liberty, and freedom.

As history shows, the usual next step is violence...as you just suggested. If liberals march with their guns, you'll find a justification to shoot them down...as you just suggested.
Video of the "Progressive Women" refusing to condemn the nutjob antifa terrorist that tried to firebomb an ICE facility this past weekend. But I though the violence was going to come from the right? Go figure, history repeats itself once again. :coffee:

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SDHornet wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote: Nah, it's conservatives who have systemically given up on democracy, liberty, and freedom.

As history shows, the usual next step is violence...as you just suggested. If liberals march with their guns, you'll find a justification to shoot them down...as you just suggested.
Video of the "Progressive Women" refusing to condemn the nutjob antifa terrorist that tried to firebomb an ICE facility this past weekend. But I though the violence was going to come from the right? Go figure, history repeats itself once again. :coffee:

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This country is overdue for some serious violence in the streets. Fvck up some nazis like our fathers did, that's the ticket, not this Neville Chamberlain good people on both sides sissy shit.
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houndawg wrote:
SDHornet wrote: Video of the "Progressive Women" refusing to condemn the nutjob antifa terrorist that tried to firebomb an ICE facility this past weekend. But I though the violence was going to come from the right? Go figure, history repeats itself once again. :coffee:

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This country is overdue for some serious violence in the streets. Fvck up some nazis like our fathers did, that's the ticket, not this Neville Chamberlain good people on both sides sissy ****.
And who are these ‘nazis’ you refer to?
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BDKJMU wrote:
houndawg wrote:

This country is overdue for some serious violence in the streets. Fvck up some nazis like our fathers did, that's the ticket, not this Neville Chamberlain good people on both sides sissy ****.
And who are these ‘nazis’ you refer to?
The Charlottesville crowd and their ilk, Neville. :coffee:

When they're all bunched up marching with their torches hit them with some Molotov cocktails, don't light them, let their own torches provide the spark. That would be so.....poetic.
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