Do you believe Trump is really under IRS audit?

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Do you believe Trump is really under IRS audit?

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Re: Do you believe Trump is really under IRS audit?

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Chizzang wrote:The Tax Return thing is where true partisanship bias comes into play universally...

:lol:

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Nobody... even the people desperately pretending it's fabulous aren't getting what they want
*appreciating what they got

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Re: Do you believe Trump is really under IRS audit?

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CAA Flagship wrote:
Chizzang wrote:The Tax Return thing is where true partisanship bias comes into play universally...

:lol:

The amazing thing about this presidency is that nobody is getting what they want
Nobody... even the people desperately pretending it's fabulous aren't getting what they want
*appreciating what they got

Lose your job, and it's the most important issue. Feeling secure in your job allows people to fret about less important issues.
None of this changes my point...

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Re: Do you believe Trump is really under IRS audit?

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Chizzang wrote:Always let people surrender the high ground in a debate...
(kinda like "never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake")

The Republican party has shoveled the bulk of their advantageous positions into the fire pit these past 2 years
My suggestion is to let them continue doing so


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That is 100% true

I’ve given up on fiscal responsibility- a collection of people such as ourselves cannot avoid electing manna from heaven politicians. So I am resigned to the fact that we will continue this course until other countries begin making our financial decisions for us, and then future governments will adopt inflationary policies (after the world switches over to trading on the Yuan) and then grandchildren I likely will never know will be the ones who suffer. I’m not even that concerned anymore that they will look back at me as a member of one of the most vile generations that was ever shat out onto this country.

My real irritation now is that Republicans, by surrendering principle and reason, are legitimizing the equally heinous left. When we swing back it is going to be a long, deep arc


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Re: Do you believe Trump is really under IRS audit?

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CID1990 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:Always let people surrender the high ground in a debate...
(kinda like "never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake")

The Republican party has shoveled the bulk of their advantageous positions into the fire pit these past 2 years
My suggestion is to let them continue doing so


:coffee:
That is 100% true

I’ve given up on fiscal responsibility- a collection of people such as ourselves cannot avoid electing manna from heaven politicians. So I am resigned to the fact that we will continue this course until other countries begin making our financial decisions for us, and then future governments will adopt inflationary policies (after the world switches over to trading on the Yuan) and then grandchildren I likely will never know will be the ones who suffer. I’m not even that concerned anymore that they will look back at me as a member of one of the most vile generations that was ever shat out onto this country.

My real irritation now is that Republicans, by surrendering principle and reason, are legitimizing the equally heinous left. When we swing back it is going to be a long, deep arc
Whatever good there was in the core beliefs of the mainstream Left
it was long ago taken hostage re-written or just thrown out

With Trump in charge
The middle Right has been racing downward to meet the middle left in a mad race to the bottom

the left and right now embrace each other in a smoldering flaming swan dive
with the ultimate destination somewhere well beneath common good

each having long ago cast aside dignity and self respect
neither is capable of recognizing it's own reflection as they race towards the shining surface
of an ocean of sewage

and we cheer them on from the festering garbage cluttered shoreline
each of us standing shin high in our own feces screaming for an outcome that satisfies our anger

and when the two plummeting titans hit the surface
we are all swept away in a flaming tidal wave of sewage


:coffee: There how's that...
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Re: Do you believe Trump is really under IRS audit?

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Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
That is 100% true

I’ve given up on fiscal responsibility- a collection of people such as ourselves cannot avoid electing manna from heaven politicians. So I am resigned to the fact that we will continue this course until other countries begin making our financial decisions for us, and then future governments will adopt inflationary policies (after the world switches over to trading on the Yuan) and then grandchildren I likely will never know will be the ones who suffer. I’m not even that concerned anymore that they will look back at me as a member of one of the most vile generations that was ever shat out onto this country.

My real irritation now is that Republicans, by surrendering principle and reason, are legitimizing the equally heinous left. When we swing back it is going to be a long, deep arc
Whatever good there was in the core beliefs of the mainstream Left
it was long ago taken hostage re-written or just thrown out

With Trump in charge
The middle Right has been racing downward to meet the middle left in a mad race to the bottom

the left and right now embrace each other in a smoldering flaming swan dive
with the ultimate destination somewhere well beneath common good

each having long ago cast aside dignity and self respect
neither is capable of recognizing it's own reflection as they race towards the shining surface
of an ocean of sewage

and we cheer them on from the festering garbage cluttered shoreline
each of us standing shin high in our own feces screaming for an outcome that satisfies our anger

and when the two plummeting titans hit the surface
we are all swept away in a flaming tidal wave of sewage


:coffee: There how's that...
B minus

close enough


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Re: Do you believe Trump is really under IRS audit?

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Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
That is 100% true

I’ve given up on fiscal responsibility- a collection of people such as ourselves cannot avoid electing manna from heaven politicians. So I am resigned to the fact that we will continue this course until other countries begin making our financial decisions for us, and then future governments will adopt inflationary policies (after the world switches over to trading on the Yuan) and then grandchildren I likely will never know will be the ones who suffer. I’m not even that concerned anymore that they will look back at me as a member of one of the most vile generations that was ever shat out onto this country.

My real irritation now is that Republicans, by surrendering principle and reason, are legitimizing the equally heinous left. When we swing back it is going to be a long, deep arc
Whatever good there was in the core beliefs of the mainstream Left
it was long ago taken hostage re-written or just thrown out

With Trump in charge
The middle Right has been racing downward to meet the middle left in a mad race to the bottom

the left and right now embrace each other in a smoldering flaming swan dive
with the ultimate destination somewhere well beneath common good

each having long ago cast aside dignity and self respect
neither is capable of recognizing it's own reflection as they race towards the shining surface
of an ocean of sewage

and we cheer them on from the festering garbage cluttered shoreline
each of us standing shin high in our own feces screaming for an outcome that satisfies our anger

and when the two plummeting titans hit the surface
we are all swept away in a flaming tidal wave of sewage


:coffee: There how's that...
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Re: Do you believe Trump is really under IRS audit?

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BTW, if Trump isn’t under audit, John Koskinen or his current ilk in the IRS netherworld would have leaked it by now.
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Re: Do you believe Trump is really under IRS audit?

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Ok since I started this thread I feel compelled to say that I have learned that every President gets audited while they are President. So I'd need to amend the poll to refer to the period prior to when he was elected.
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Ivytalk wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Whatever good there was in the core beliefs of the mainstream Left
it was long ago taken hostage re-written or just thrown out

With Trump in charge
The middle Right has been racing downward to meet the middle left in a mad race to the bottom

the left and right now embrace each other in a smoldering flaming swan dive
with the ultimate destination somewhere well beneath common good

each having long ago cast aside dignity and self respect
neither is capable of recognizing it's own reflection as they race towards the shining surface
of an ocean of sewage

and we cheer them on from the festering garbage cluttered shoreline
each of us standing shin high in our own feces screaming for an outcome that satisfies our anger

and when the two plummeting titans hit the surface
we are all swept away in a flaming tidal wave of sewage


:coffee: There how's that...
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∞∞∞ wrote:
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Privacy Trumps everything.
The President is a servant, not a sovereign.

And the People are his superior while Congress is its vessel.

Myself and others want our representatives to do what's necessary to get his tax returns, as allowed under their subpoena powers. I'd like to make sure the President has no conflicts of interests.
You do understand that you personally cannot see his tax returns under that “power”...

The law that dates back to 1920 allows the Chair of three specific committees to see the returns...but makes release to the public illegal with a 5 year prison term mandated for who ever releases the data...

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Re: Do you believe Trump is really under IRS audit?

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Col Hogan wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote: The President is a servant, not a sovereign.

And the People are his superior while Congress is its vessel.

Myself and others want our representatives to do what's necessary to get his tax returns, as allowed under their subpoena powers. I'd like to make sure the President has no conflicts of interests.
You do understand that you personally cannot see his tax returns under that “power”...

The law that dates back to 1920 allows the Chair of three specific committees to see the returns...but makes release to the public illegal with a 5 year prison term mandated for who ever releases the data...

:coffee:
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Re: Do you believe Trump is really under IRS audit?

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I previously couldn't have imagined a political landscape where the party of transparency and honor
spends a wild two year ride doing a hard about face and defending everything they professed to hate
because they got handed a lemon for president

:lol:

Carry on gentlemen...
defending the indefensible and explaining the inexplicable

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Chizzang wrote:I previously couldn't have imagined a political landscape where the party of transparency and honor
spends a wild two year ride doing a hard about face and defending everything they professed to hate
because they got handed a lemon for president

:lol:

Carry on gentlemen...
defending the indefensible and explaining the inexplicable

It is an ill fitted suit that is never quite in style
only to be worn as a last resort shortly after disrobing your honor and shimmying off your dignity
Hung in the darkest closet of shame worn for lack of anything else to wear


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Ivytalk wrote:
Chizzang wrote:I previously couldn't have imagined a political landscape where the party of transparency and honor
spends a wild two year ride doing a hard about face and defending everything they professed to hate
because they got handed a lemon for president

:lol:

Carry on gentlemen...
defending the indefensible and explaining the inexplicable

It is an ill fitted suit that is never quite in style
only to be worn as a last resort shortly after disrobing your honor and shimmying off your dignity
Hung in the darkest closet of shame worn for lack of anything else to wear


:coffee:
C-plus

Too many metaphors and trite catchphrases
:ohno:

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I'll do better next time
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Chizzang wrote:I previously couldn't have imagined a political landscape where the party of transparency and honor
spends a wild two year ride doing a hard about face and defending everything they professed to hate
because they got handed a lemon for president

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Carry on gentlemen...
defending the indefensible and explaining the inexplicable

It is an ill fitted suit that is never quite in style
only to be worn as a last resort shortly after disrobing your honor and shimmying off your dignity
Hung in the darkest closet of shame worn for lack of anything else to wear


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Re: Do you believe Trump is really under IRS audit?

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Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
That is 100% true

I’ve given up on fiscal responsibility- a collection of people such as ourselves cannot avoid electing manna from heaven politicians. So I am resigned to the fact that we will continue this course until other countries begin making our financial decisions for us, and then future governments will adopt inflationary policies (after the world switches over to trading on the Yuan) and then grandchildren I likely will never know will be the ones who suffer. I’m not even that concerned anymore that they will look back at me as a member of one of the most vile generations that was ever shat out onto this country.

My real irritation now is that Republicans, by surrendering principle and reason, are legitimizing the equally heinous left. When we swing back it is going to be a long, deep arc
Whatever good there was in the core beliefs of the mainstream Left
it was long ago taken hostage re-written or just thrown out

With Trump in charge
The middle Right has been racing downward to meet the middle left in a mad race to the bottom

the left and right now embrace each other in a smoldering flaming swan dive
with the ultimate destination somewhere well beneath common good

each having long ago cast aside dignity and self respect
neither is capable of recognizing it's own reflection as they race towards the shining surface
of an ocean of sewage

and we cheer them on from the festering garbage cluttered shoreline
each of us standing shin high in our own feces screaming for an outcome that satisfies our anger

and when the two plummeting titans hit the surface
we are all swept away in a flaming tidal wave of sewage


:coffee: There how's that...
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Col Hogan wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote: The President is a servant, not a sovereign.

And the People are his superior while Congress is its vessel.

Myself and others want our representatives to do what's necessary to get his tax returns, as allowed under their subpoena powers. I'd like to make sure the President has no conflicts of interests.
You do understand that you personally cannot see his tax returns under that “power”...

The law that dates back to 1920 allows the Chair of three specific committees to see the returns...but makes release to the public illegal with a 5 year prison term mandated for who ever releases the data...

:coffee:
That's OK ,we just want to see the executive summary. You think it will ever be leaked?
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houndawg wrote:
Col Hogan wrote:
You do understand that you personally cannot see his tax returns under that “power”...

The law that dates back to 1920 allows the Chair of three specific committees to see the returns...but makes release to the public illegal with a 5 year prison term mandated for who ever releases the data...

:coffee:
That's OK ,we just want to see the executive summary. You think it will ever be leaked?
That’s a dumb question...of course it will be leaked...the Democrats are involved...

But my hope is the DoJ investigation will lead back to the Committee Chairman who facilitates the release, and he or she will face jail time...
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Col Hogan wrote:
houndawg wrote:
That's OK ,we just want to see the executive summary. You think it will ever be leaked?
That’s a dumb question...of course it will be leaked...the Democrats are involved...

But my hope is the DoJ investigation will lead back to the Committee Chairman who facilitates the release, and he or she will face jail time...
Nobody is going to jail

There are some who should....

But I have lived in countries where the “peaceful transfer of power” is accompanied by indictments and people fleeing to London

And yes - that means some people really are above the law (see: Hillary Clinton)

I’ve seen the alternative and it is not pretty. We DO NOT want to be west Africa.


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CID1990 wrote:
Col Hogan wrote:
That’s a dumb question...of course it will be leaked...the Democrats are involved...

But my hope is the DoJ investigation will lead back to the Committee Chairman who facilitates the release, and he or she will face jail time...
Nobody is going to jail

There are some who should....

But I have lived in countries where the “peaceful transfer of power” is accompanied by indictments and people fleeing to London

And yes - that means some people really are above the law (see: Hillary Clinton)

I’ve seen the alternative and it is not pretty. We DO NOT want to be west Africa.


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