Now you sound like a gay..... Or a woman93henfan wrote:If I do vote, it won't be for Trump. That's all I know right now. You don't get my vote when you declare war on me and my family.
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Now you sound like a gay..... Or a woman93henfan wrote:If I do vote, it won't be for Trump. That's all I know right now. You don't get my vote when you declare war on me and my family.
Cool story.ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Now you sound like a gay..... Or a woman93henfan wrote:If I do vote, it won't be for Trump. That's all I know right now. You don't get my vote when you declare war on me and my family.
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The here we go again is for the crowd that thinks a vote for a third party candidate is noble or brave. It's not. It doesn't send a message. It's not noble. It's just a feel good moment for yourself. I will probably write in, just like I did last time. But I don't kid myself that I'm making some kind of stand.Pwns wrote:Who are you for if it's Bernie versus Trump?89Hen wrote: And here we go again.
Possible crazies....Sanders, Beto, Warren. I'd vote for all of them over the insane Trump.GannonFan wrote:Well, I'm not voting Trump, so it's the Democrat unless they're crazy, but that could be likely, so I don't see the option clearly defined.
Even if you write in, Hen, you make some kind of stand. That’s the point. Third parties offer some type of ideological core around which individual “stands” can coalesce.89Hen wrote:The here we go again is for the crowd that thinks a vote for a third party candidate is noble or brave. It's not. It doesn't send a message. It's not noble. It's just a feel good moment for yourself. I will probably write in, just like I did last time. But I don't kid myself that I'm making some kind of stand.Pwns wrote:
Who are you for if it's Bernie versus Trump?
Amen! For once I agree with you!89Hen wrote:The here we go again is for the crowd that thinks a vote for a third party candidate is noble or brave. It's not. It doesn't send a message. It's not noble. It's just a feel good moment for yourself. I will probably write in, just like I did last time. But I don't kid myself that I'm making some kind of stand.Pwns wrote:
Who are you for if it's Bernie versus Trump?
You’d vote for them over the most moderate Republican too, Jeff - so big dealmainejeff wrote:Possible crazies....Sanders, Beto, Warren. I'd vote for all of them over the insane Trump.GannonFan wrote:Well, I'm not voting Trump, so it's the Democrat unless they're crazy, but that could be likely, so I don't see the option clearly defined.
93henfan wrote:If I do vote, it won't be for Trump. That's all I know right now. You don't get my vote when you declare war on me and my family.
Who are you to say WHY I vote third party? It's certainly not because I think it's "noble" or "brave". It's because the two parties we HAVE are corrupted beyond repair, and I align more closely with the person I end up voting for almost every single time. It's not because I want a "feel good moment".89Hen wrote:The here we go again is for the crowd that thinks a vote for a third party candidate is noble or brave. It's not. It doesn't send a message. It's not noble. It's just a feel good moment for yourself. I will probably write in, just like I did last time. But I don't kid myself that I'm making some kind of stand.Pwns wrote:
Who are you for if it's Bernie versus Trump?
Democrats at least overruled Trump's pay freeze to give my family a very meager cost of living adjustment. They also are refusing to add his draconian federal retirement cuts to the budget.AZGrizFan wrote:93henfan wrote:If I do vote, it won't be for Trump. That's all I know right now. You don't get my vote when you declare war on me and my family.
So you won't be voting Dem either, then?
Stack up the tax cut against the "pay freeze". See if you came out ahead.93henfan wrote:Democrats at least overruled Trump's pay freeze to give my family a very meager cost of living adjustment. They also are refusing to add his draconian federal retirement cuts to the budget.AZGrizFan wrote:
So you won't be voting Dem either, then?
Make no mistake, Trump is at war with federal employees. I will do whatever I can to maximize the chances he is not re-elected. I will always take care of #1 first. My family is more important to me than anything else. I doubt I'll ever vote Republican again in my life. The pointless shutdown and the rhetoric accompanying it were a sea change for me. I don't forget or forgive. Call it a personality flaw.
A temporary win that increased the federal debt. That'll completely screw over our kids. Some day, the reckoning is coming to all of us for Trump's corporate and billionaire welfare program.AZGrizFan wrote:Stack up the tax cut against the "pay freeze". See if you came out ahead.93henfan wrote:
Democrats at least overruled Trump's pay freeze to give my family a very meager cost of living adjustment. They also are refusing to add his draconian federal retirement cuts to the budget.
Make no mistake, Trump is at war with federal employees. I will do whatever I can to maximize the chances he is not re-elected. I will always take care of #1 first. My family is more important to me than anything else. I doubt I'll ever vote Republican again in my life. The pointless shutdown and the rhetoric accompanying it were a sea change for me. I don't forget or forgive. Call it a personality flaw.
We will have to disagree.Ivytalk wrote:Even if you write in, Hen, you make some kind of stand. That’s the point. Third parties offer some type of ideological core around which individual “stands” can coalesce.89Hen wrote: The here we go again is for the crowd that thinks a vote for a third party candidate is noble or brave. It's not. It doesn't send a message. It's not noble. It's just a feel good moment for yourself. I will probably write in, just like I did last time. But I don't kid myself that I'm making some kind of stand.
Really? So telling folks to "have a spine" isn't telling folks that it's somehow brave to vote that way? Yeah, OK.AZGrizFan wrote:Who are you to say WHY I vote third party? It's certainly not because I think it's "noble" or "brave". It's because the two parties we HAVE are corrupted beyond repair, and I align more closely with the person I end up voting for almost every single time. It's not because I want a "feel good moment".89Hen wrote: The here we go again is for the crowd that thinks a vote for a third party candidate is noble or brave. It's not. It doesn't send a message. It's not noble. It's just a feel good moment for yourself. I will probably write in, just like I did last time. But I don't kid myself that I'm making some kind of stand.
But I will admit, I DO feel better knowing I didn't vote for Hildabeast or the Orange Man.
Is it93henfan wrote:Cool story.ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Now you sound like a gay..... Or a woman
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So who do you think is a good option?bluehenbillk wrote:It's bad when there are no good options....again
It's not noble or brave, it doesn't send a message and I don't make a stand. It's about peace of mind.89Hen wrote:The here we go again is for the crowd that thinks a vote for a third party candidate is noble or brave. It's not. It doesn't send a message. It's not noble. It's just a feel good moment for yourself. I will probably write in, just like I did last time. But I don't kid myself that I'm making some kind of stand.Pwns wrote:
Who are you for if it's Bernie versus Trump?
And I'm absolutely fine with that.Gil Dobie wrote:It's not noble or brave, it doesn't send a message and I don't make a stand. It's about peace of mind.89Hen wrote: The here we go again is for the crowd that thinks a vote for a third party candidate is noble or brave. It's not. It doesn't send a message. It's not noble. It's just a feel good moment for yourself. I will probably write in, just like I did last time. But I don't kid myself that I'm making some kind of stand.
Tulsi Gabbard, the young female Bernie Sanders.dbackjon wrote:So who do you think is a good option?bluehenbillk wrote:It's bad when there are no good options....again
If you could convince 5 people to throw their names in the Dem Primary (because Trump has the GOP nomination locked down), who would you convince?
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Gil Dobie wrote:Tulsi Gabbard, the young female Bernie Sanders.dbackjon wrote:
So who do you think is a good option?
If you could convince 5 people to throw their names in the Dem Primary (because Trump has the GOP nomination locked down), who would you convince?
Can't trust any politician, can we?dbackjon wrote:Gil Dobie wrote:
Tulsi Gabbard, the young female Bernie Sanders.
Ugh - I don't trust her.
I'm saying vote your conscience. Is that really that difficult to comprehend? Saying "I'm a third party guy but I don't want to waste my vote" is more damning than voting for a third party guy with (assumingly) no chance of winning.89Hen wrote:Really? So telling folks to "have a spine" isn't telling folks that it's somehow brave to vote that way? Yeah, OK.AZGrizFan wrote:
Who are you to say WHY I vote third party? It's certainly not because I think it's "noble" or "brave". It's because the two parties we HAVE are corrupted beyond repair, and I align more closely with the person I end up voting for almost every single time. It's not because I want a "feel good moment".
But I will admit, I DO feel better knowing I didn't vote for Hildabeast or the Orange Man.
AZGrizFan wrote:I'm saying vote your conscience. Is that really that difficult to comprehend? Saying "I'm a third party guy but I don't want to waste my vote" is more damning than voting for a third party guy with (assumingly) no chance of winning.89Hen wrote: Really? So telling folks to "have a spine" isn't telling folks that it's somehow brave to vote that way? Yeah, OK.
Voting for one of the two major parties is literally throwing your vote away because there's NO difference other than semantics.
But hey, you do you bro.