April 2019 Presidential Preference Poll

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Who would you vote for today?

Poll ended at Wed May 15, 2019 12:15 pm

Trump no matter what
13
35%
The Democrat no matter what
10
27%
Third Party/Independent/Write-in/Blank no matter what
7
19%
Trump, unless the donks nominate ___, which is unlikely
1
3%
The Democrat, unless the donks nominate ____, which is unlikely.
0
No votes
Third Party or Independent, unless the donks nominate ____, which is unlikely.
3
8%
Fvck dis Schit what's the point 2020
3
8%
 
Total votes: 37

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Re: RE: Re: April 2019 Presidential Preference Poll

Postby ALPHAGRIZ1 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:50 am

93henfan wrote:If I do vote, it won't be for Trump. That's all I know right now. You don't get my vote when you declare war on me and my family.
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Re: RE: Re: April 2019 Presidential Preference Poll

Postby 93henfan » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:52 am

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93henfan wrote:If I do vote, it won't be for Trump. That's all I know right now. You don't get my vote when you declare war on me and my family.
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Re: April 2019 Presidential Preference Poll

Postby bluehenbillk » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:24 am

It's bad when there are no good options....again
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Re: April 2019 Presidential Preference Poll

Postby 89Hen » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:49 am

Pwns wrote:
89Hen wrote:And here we go again. :roll: :coffee:


Who are you for if it's Bernie versus Trump?

The here we go again is for the crowd that thinks a vote for a third party candidate is noble or brave. It's not. It doesn't send a message. It's not noble. It's just a feel good moment for yourself. I will probably write in, just like I did last time. But I don't kid myself that I'm making some kind of stand.
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Re: April 2019 Presidential Preference Poll

Postby mainejeff » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:57 am

GannonFan wrote:Well, I'm not voting Trump, so it's the Democrat unless they're crazy, but that could be likely, so I don't see the option clearly defined.


Possible crazies....Sanders, Beto, Warren. I'd vote for all of them over the insane Trump.

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Re: April 2019 Presidential Preference Poll

Postby Ivytalk » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:57 am

89Hen wrote:
Pwns wrote:
Who are you for if it's Bernie versus Trump?

The here we go again is for the crowd that thinks a vote for a third party candidate is noble or brave. It's not. It doesn't send a message. It's not noble. It's just a feel good moment for yourself. I will probably write in, just like I did last time. But I don't kid myself that I'm making some kind of stand.

Even if you write in, Hen, you make some kind of stand. That’s the point. Third parties offer some type of ideological core around which individual “stands” can coalesce.
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Re: April 2019 Presidential Preference Poll

Postby mainejeff » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:00 am

89Hen wrote:
Pwns wrote:
Who are you for if it's Bernie versus Trump?

The here we go again is for the crowd that thinks a vote for a third party candidate is noble or brave. It's not. It doesn't send a message. It's not noble. It's just a feel good moment for yourself. I will probably write in, just like I did last time. But I don't kid myself that I'm making some kind of stand.


Amen! For once I agree with you! :o :o :o

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Re: April 2019 Presidential Preference Poll

Postby CID1990 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:09 am

mainejeff wrote:
GannonFan wrote:Well, I'm not voting Trump, so it's the Democrat unless they're crazy, but that could be likely, so I don't see the option clearly defined.


Possible crazies....Sanders, Beto, Warren. I'd vote for all of them over the insane Trump.

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You’d vote for them over the most moderate Republican too, Jeff - so big deal

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Re: April 2019 Presidential Preference Poll

Postby AZGrizFan » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:47 am

93henfan wrote:If I do vote, it won't be for Trump. That's all I know right now. You don't get my vote when you declare war on me and my family.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

So you won't be voting Dem either, then?
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Re: April 2019 Presidential Preference Poll

Postby AZGrizFan » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:49 am

89Hen wrote:
Pwns wrote:
Who are you for if it's Bernie versus Trump?

The here we go again is for the crowd that thinks a vote for a third party candidate is noble or brave. It's not. It doesn't send a message. It's not noble. It's just a feel good moment for yourself. I will probably write in, just like I did last time. But I don't kid myself that I'm making some kind of stand.


Who are you to say WHY I vote third party? It's certainly not because I think it's "noble" or "brave". It's because the two parties we HAVE are corrupted beyond repair, and I align more closely with the person I end up voting for almost every single time. It's not because I want a "feel good moment".

But I will admit, I DO feel better knowing I didn't vote for Hildabeast or the Orange Man. 8-) 8-)
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Re: April 2019 Presidential Preference Poll

Postby 93henfan » Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:07 am

AZGrizFan wrote:
93henfan wrote:If I do vote, it won't be for Trump. That's all I know right now. You don't get my vote when you declare war on me and my family.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

So you won't be voting Dem either, then?


Democrats at least overruled Trump's pay freeze to give my family a very meager cost of living adjustment. They also are refusing to add his draconian federal retirement cuts to the budget.

Make no mistake, Trump is at war with federal employees. I will do whatever I can to maximize the chances he is not re-elected. I will always take care of #1 first. My family is more important to me than anything else. I doubt I'll ever vote Republican again in my life. The pointless shutdown and the rhetoric accompanying it were a sea change for me. I don't forget or forgive. Call it a personality flaw.
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Re: April 2019 Presidential Preference Poll

Postby AZGrizFan » Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:10 am

93henfan wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

So you won't be voting Dem either, then?


Democrats at least overruled Trump's pay freeze to give my family a very meager cost of living adjustment. They also are refusing to add his draconian federal retirement cuts to the budget.

Make no mistake, Trump is at war with federal employees. I will do whatever I can to maximize the chances he is not re-elected. I will always take care of #1 first. My family is more important to me than anything else. I doubt I'll ever vote Republican again in my life. The pointless shutdown and the rhetoric accompanying it were a sea change for me. I don't forget or forgive. Call it a personality flaw.


Stack up the tax cut against the "pay freeze". See if you came out ahead.
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Re: April 2019 Presidential Preference Poll

Postby 93henfan » Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:16 am

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93henfan wrote:
Democrats at least overruled Trump's pay freeze to give my family a very meager cost of living adjustment. They also are refusing to add his draconian federal retirement cuts to the budget.

Make no mistake, Trump is at war with federal employees. I will do whatever I can to maximize the chances he is not re-elected. I will always take care of #1 first. My family is more important to me than anything else. I doubt I'll ever vote Republican again in my life. The pointless shutdown and the rhetoric accompanying it were a sea change for me. I don't forget or forgive. Call it a personality flaw.


Stack up the tax cut against the "pay freeze". See if you came out ahead.


A temporary win that increased the federal debt. That'll completely screw over our kids. Some day, the reckoning is coming to all of us for Trump's corporate and billionaire welfare program. :nod:

Pretty much every billionaire out there (Gates, Buffett, etc) will tell you that they should be paying more and not less taxes for the long term health of the country.
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Re: April 2019 Presidential Preference Poll

Postby 89Hen » Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:30 am

Ivytalk wrote:
89Hen wrote:The here we go again is for the crowd that thinks a vote for a third party candidate is noble or brave. It's not. It doesn't send a message. It's not noble. It's just a feel good moment for yourself. I will probably write in, just like I did last time. But I don't kid myself that I'm making some kind of stand.

Even if you write in, Hen, you make some kind of stand. That’s the point. Third parties offer some type of ideological core around which individual “stands” can coalesce.

We will have to disagree.

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Re: April 2019 Presidential Preference Poll

Postby 89Hen » Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:32 am

AZGrizFan wrote:
89Hen wrote:The here we go again is for the crowd that thinks a vote for a third party candidate is noble or brave. It's not. It doesn't send a message. It's not noble. It's just a feel good moment for yourself. I will probably write in, just like I did last time. But I don't kid myself that I'm making some kind of stand.


Who are you to say WHY I vote third party? It's certainly not because I think it's "noble" or "brave". It's because the two parties we HAVE are corrupted beyond repair, and I align more closely with the person I end up voting for almost every single time. It's not because I want a "feel good moment".

But I will admit, I DO feel better knowing I didn't vote for Hildabeast or the Orange Man. 8-) 8-)

Really? So telling folks to "have a spine" isn't telling folks that it's somehow brave to vote that way? Yeah, OK. :coffee:
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Postby ALPHAGRIZ1 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:07 am

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Re: April 2019 Presidential Preference Poll

Postby dbackjon » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:24 am

bluehenbillk wrote:It's bad when there are no good options....again


So who do you think is a good option?

If you could convince 5 people to throw their names in the Dem Primary (because Trump has the GOP nomination locked down), who would you convince?
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Re: April 2019 Presidential Preference Poll

Postby Gil Dobie » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:47 am

89Hen wrote:
Pwns wrote:
Who are you for if it's Bernie versus Trump?

The here we go again is for the crowd that thinks a vote for a third party candidate is noble or brave. It's not. It doesn't send a message. It's not noble. It's just a feel good moment for yourself. I will probably write in, just like I did last time. But I don't kid myself that I'm making some kind of stand.


It's not noble or brave, it doesn't send a message and I don't make a stand. It's about peace of mind.
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Re: April 2019 Presidential Preference Poll

Postby 89Hen » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:11 am

Gil Dobie wrote:
89Hen wrote:The here we go again is for the crowd that thinks a vote for a third party candidate is noble or brave. It's not. It doesn't send a message. It's not noble. It's just a feel good moment for yourself. I will probably write in, just like I did last time. But I don't kid myself that I'm making some kind of stand.


It's not noble or brave, it doesn't send a message and I don't make a stand. It's about peace of mind.

And I'm absolutely fine with that. :thumb:
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Re: April 2019 Presidential Preference Poll

Postby Gil Dobie » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:36 am

dbackjon wrote:
bluehenbillk wrote:It's bad when there are no good options....again


So who do you think is a good option?

If you could convince 5 people to throw their names in the Dem Primary (because Trump has the GOP nomination locked down), who would you convince?


Tulsi Gabbard, the young female Bernie Sanders.

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Re: April 2019 Presidential Preference Poll

Postby dbackjon » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:54 am

Gil Dobie wrote:
dbackjon wrote:
So who do you think is a good option?

If you could convince 5 people to throw their names in the Dem Primary (because Trump has the GOP nomination locked down), who would you convince?


Tulsi Gabbard, the young female Bernie Sanders.

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Re: April 2019 Presidential Preference Poll

Postby Gil Dobie » Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:15 am

dbackjon wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:
Tulsi Gabbard, the young female Bernie Sanders.

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Ugh - I don't trust her.


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Re: April 2019 Presidential Preference Poll

Postby AZGrizFan » Tue Apr 16, 2019 12:07 pm

89Hen wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Who are you to say WHY I vote third party? It's certainly not because I think it's "noble" or "brave". It's because the two parties we HAVE are corrupted beyond repair, and I align more closely with the person I end up voting for almost every single time. It's not because I want a "feel good moment".

But I will admit, I DO feel better knowing I didn't vote for Hildabeast or the Orange Man. 8-) 8-)

Really? So telling folks to "have a spine" isn't telling folks that it's somehow brave to vote that way? Yeah, OK. :coffee:


I'm saying vote your conscience. Is that really that difficult to comprehend? Saying "I'm a third party guy but I don't want to waste my vote" is more damning than voting for a third party guy with (assumingly) no chance of winning.

Voting for one of the two major parties is literally throwing your vote away because there's NO difference other than semantics.

But hey, you do you bro.
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Re: April 2019 Presidential Preference Poll

Postby kalm » Tue Apr 16, 2019 12:24 pm

AZGrizFan wrote:
89Hen wrote:Really? So telling folks to "have a spine" isn't telling folks that it's somehow brave to vote that way? Yeah, OK. :coffee:


I'm saying vote your conscience. Is that really that difficult to comprehend? Saying "I'm a third party guy but I don't want to waste my vote" is more damning than voting for a third party guy with (assumingly) no chance of winning.

Voting for one of the two major parties is literally throwing your vote away because there's NO difference other than semantics.

But hey, you do you bro.


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(I’m actually not sure if the two concepts are alike at all but since I’m quoting Z it seemed like a good fit here :mrgreen: )
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