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∞∞∞ wrote:
UNI88 wrote:CID's knowledge of Barr is just as relevant as your defense of Bernie based on a relationship with someone from his campaign staff, probably more so since it's 0 degrees of separation and you have 1.
I don't defend Bernie at a personal level. I semi-like his policies, although he's too conservative.

And there's nothing in his history that says, "this asshole undermines law and justice every chance he gets."
Im not going to search for the exact posts but if I remember correctly I criticized Bernie for being an arrogant old curmudgeon who favored Soviet style planned economies and you defended him based on remarks from someone you knew who worked on his campaign.

I'm pretty sure he's an arrogant, crotchety old man that thinks that he and a cabal of like-minded "geniuses" can do a better job of allocating resources than the market and that there is no problem with him and his cronies enjoying the good life because of the important work they do for the "people".

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UNI88 wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote: I don't defend Bernie at a personal level. I semi-like his policies, although he's too conservative.

And there's nothing in his history that says, "this asshole undermines law and justice every chance he gets."
Im not going to search for the exact posts but if I remember correctly I criticized Bernie for being an arrogant old curmudgeon who favored Soviet style planned economies and you defended him based on remarks from someone you knew who worked on his campaign.

I'm pretty sure he's an arrogant, crotchety old man that thinks that he and a cabal of like-minded "geniuses" can do a better job of allocating resources than the market and that there is no problem with him and his cronies enjoying the good life because of the important work they do for the "people".
You don't remember correctly.

I searched my posts for Sanders, Bernie, and UNI88; I didn't see anything replying to you. I support his general movement, but I'm not the biggest Sanders fan as you'd see in my post history.
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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:The bottom line that I think we can all see is that Barr was dissembling. Answering questions with questions and stalling for time when Democrats were questioning him. He was obviously trying to be obtuse and hide information. The exchange with Harris was particularly revealing in that regard.

I'm actually disappointed because I thought Barr might be a man of integrity. He obviously isn't.
Actually he was just telling the truth and you fuckers cant deal with that since you dont deal in facts and a proven report.

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How can you rail against Mueller, call it a witch hunt and a waste of time and money, call it illegal and appear to undermine it...THEN turn around and say it's great b/c it gives you the outcome you desired? Seems backwards to me.

Oh that's right - hypocrisy and bullshit. I forgot we're dealing with Trump and politicians.
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CitadelGrad wrote:
Ibanez wrote: No. He said Barr did.

Justice Department spokesperson said: “After the Attorney General received Special Counsel Mueller’s letter, he called him to discuss it. In a cordial and professional conversion, the special counsel emphasized that nothing in the Attorney General’s March 24 letter was inaccurate or misleading. But, he expressed frustration over the lack of context and the resulting media coverage regarding the special counsel’s obstruction analysis.”

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Why not go with Mueller's quote instead of yet another second-hand interpretation?
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houndawg wrote:
CitadelGrad wrote:

Justice Department spokesperson said: “After the Attorney General received Special Counsel Mueller’s letter, he called him to discuss it. In a cordial and professional conversion, the special counsel emphasized that nothing in the Attorney General’s March 24 letter was inaccurate or misleading. But, he expressed frustration over the lack of context and the resulting media coverage regarding the special counsel’s obstruction analysis.”

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Why not go with Mueller's quote instead of yet another second-hand interpretation?
Because that doesn't give him the outcome/perspective he wants. Deep Staters and career bureaucrats are bad, evil, blah blah blah until they give you want you want.
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Ibanez wrote:
houndawg wrote:
Why not go with Mueller's quote instead of yet another second-hand interpretation?
Because that doesn't give him the outcome/perspective he wants. Deep Staters and career bureaucrats are bad, evil, blah blah blah until they give you want you want.
Maybe you can help - I'm still not clear on why the Deep State engineered the election to give us this outcome.

Its like the Deep State isn't any more competent than the Official State. So confusing. :?
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houndawg wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Because that doesn't give him the outcome/perspective he wants. Deep Staters and career bureaucrats are bad, evil, blah blah blah until they give you want you want.
Maybe you can help - I'm still not clear on why the Deep State engineered the election to give us this outcome.

Its like the Deep State isn't any more competent than the Official State. So confusing. :?
You see, the deep state controls the country, got Trump elected only so it could investigate him and then not do anything afterwards.


All in a ploy to pit us against one another. While we are fighting, they take our guns and butter.


Or something like that.
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Ibanez wrote:
houndawg wrote:
Maybe you can help - I'm still not clear on why the Deep State engineered the election to give us this outcome.

Its like the Deep State isn't any more competent than the Official State. So confusing. :?
You see, the deep state controls the country, got Trump elected only so it could investigate him and then not do anything afterwards.


All in a ploy to pit us against one another. While we are fighting, they take our guns and butter.


Or something like that.
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∞∞∞ wrote:
UNI88 wrote:
Im not going to search for the exact posts but if I remember correctly I criticized Bernie for being an arrogant old curmudgeon who favored Soviet style planned economies and you defended him based on remarks from someone you knew who worked on his campaign.

I'm pretty sure he's an arrogant, crotchety old man that thinks that he and a cabal of like-minded "geniuses" can do a better job of allocating resources than the market and that there is no problem with him and his cronies enjoying the good life because of the important work they do for the "people".
You don't remember correctly.

I searched my posts for Sanders, Bernie, and UNI88; I didn't see anything replying to you. I support his general movement, but I'm not the biggest Sanders fan as you'd see in my post history.
Dig deeper ...
∞∞∞ wrote:
UNI88 wrote:Sucker! Uncle Bernie has you fooled. His PR people might spin him as a democratic socialist but you need to dig a little deeper to find the real Bernie. He's a cranky, arrogant, old-school Soviet socialist who looks up the Che Guevara and thinks that government wonks like him are better suited to make economic decisions than capitalist entities.
I personally know his campaign manager - Jeff Weaver - for 10+ years now. The man is basically Sanders' ultimate PR machine. Everything you said is far from the truth, but believe what you will because reality clearly doesn't matter anymore; people just live in their fantasy internetz worlds.

ps. I voted for Clinton in the primary but I should have voted Sanders. Although she's fine and I don't hate her brand of progressiveness, I thought she had the best shot at winning.
And Kalm's right, I should have said market not entities.
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houndawg wrote:
CitadelGrad wrote:

Justice Department spokesperson said: “After the Attorney General received Special Counsel Mueller’s letter, he called him to discuss it. In a cordial and professional conversion, the special counsel emphasized that nothing in the Attorney General’s March 24 letter was inaccurate or misleading. But, he expressed frustration over the lack of context and the resulting media coverage regarding the special counsel’s obstruction analysis.”

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Why not go with Mueller's quote instead of yet another second-hand interpretation?
What exactly is the quotation you are referring to?

I don't really see any interpretation in the WaPo's report. The DOJ spokesman is simply relaying some of Mueller's comments in a phone call with Barr.
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CitadelGrad wrote:
houndawg wrote:
Why not go with Mueller's quote instead of yet another second-hand interpretation?
What exactly is the quotation you are referring to?

I don't really see any interpretation in the WaPo's report. The DOJ spokesman is simply relaying some of Mueller's comments in a phone call with Barr.
My bad, wrong word - I wonder why Barr didn't just release the summary provide by Team Mueller instead of taking it upon himself to tell us, though not to Mueller's satisfaction, what it said. There was no need for him to interject himself other than to check the redactions team Mueller made.
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"Barr is so far up Trumps ass he bumped into Sean Hannity.."

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houndawg wrote:
CitadelGrad wrote:
What exactly is the quotation you are referring to?

I don't really see any interpretation in the WaPo's report. The DOJ spokesman is simply relaying some of Mueller's comments in a phone call with Barr.
My bad, wrong word - I wonder why Barr didn't just release the summary provide by Team Mueller instead of taking it upon himself to tell us, though not to Mueller's satisfaction, what it said. There was no need for him to interject himself other than to check the redactions team Mueller made.
So just to get the leftard narrative straight, the concern should be how Barr delivered his summary vs what Mueller wanted (nevermind that the redacted report came out within a couple weeks anyways) and we should still ignore that there was no Trump Russia collusion. I get that right?

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SDHornet wrote:
houndawg wrote:
My bad, wrong word - I wonder why Barr didn't just release the summary provide by Team Mueller instead of taking it upon himself to tell us, though not to Mueller's satisfaction, what it said. There was no need for him to interject himself other than to check the redactions team Mueller made.
So just to get the leftard narrative straight, the concern should be how Barr delivered his summary vs what Mueller wanted (nevermind that the redacted report came out within a couple weeks anyways) and we should still ignore that there was no Trump Russia collusion. I get that right?

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Ibanez wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote: I can deal with mistakes and bad judgement; that's human nature. Lynch certainly made them, as do most (all?) politicians and public officials. None were found to be intentional.

Barr actively and knowingly undermines our laws and justice system.
How so?

Tarmac-gate was more than bad judgement. :twocents:
Can't be proven. Just like Russiagate...rverybody knows he sucked Putin off in Helsinki but nobody has pics.. :coffee:
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∞∞∞ wrote:
Ibanez wrote: How do you feel about Loretta Lynch?
I can deal with mistakes and bad judgement; that's human nature. Lynch certainly made them, as do most (all?) politicians and public officials. None were found to be intentional.

Barr actively and knowingly undermines our laws and justice system.
Gotta love soft bigotry. Lynch was too stupid to know she was making mistakes.
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kalm wrote:
89Hen wrote: It's called misdirection. The Libs can no longer complain about Russia. They're left with complaining about the summary of the report on Russia. Once the feigned indignity over Barr gets old, they will move on to something else related.
It’s like nobody watched a second of the testimony yesterday.

Viva la tribalism!

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mainejeff wrote:What goes around comes around.....remember that Trumptards. :nod:

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SeattleGriz wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote: I can deal with mistakes and bad judgement; that's human nature. Lynch certainly made them, as do most (all?) politicians and public officials. None were found to be intentional.

Barr actively and knowingly undermines our laws and justice system.
Gotta love soft bigotry. Lynch was too stupid to know she was making mistakes.
:nod:

Like when donks say voter ID laws will impact poor minorities...they are basically saying they are too incompetent to get a legit gubmint ID. :lol: :dunce:
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SDHornet wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:Gotta love soft bigotry. Lynch was too stupid to know she was making mistakes.
:nod:

Like when donks say voter ID laws will impact poor minorities...they are basically saying they are too incompetent to get a legit gubmint ID. :lol: :dunce:
Mostly Latino and black community leaders say that...

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Chizzang wrote:
SDHornet wrote: :nod:

Like when donks say voter ID laws will impact poor minorities...they are basically saying they are too incompetent to get a legit gubmint ID. :lol: :dunce:
Mostly Latino and black community leaders say that...

:nod:
Some of their leaders ARE too dumb to know better?


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CID1990 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Mostly Latino and black community leaders say that...

:nod:
Some of their leaders ARE too dumb to know better?
Only white males can be dumb...
and only white people can be racist

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