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Chinese Trade War

Postby mainejeff » Mon May 06, 2019 3:52 am

How's that working out for ya? :roll: :oops:

#MAGAt

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Re: Chinese Trade Negotiations

Postby SeattleGriz » Mon May 06, 2019 4:54 am

I'd say pretty well if N Korea is forced to launch missles at China's behest.

China played the delay game and now faces increased tariffs.
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Re: Chinese Trade Negotiations

Postby Gil Dobie » Mon May 06, 2019 7:01 am

One of my buddies, who has been doing business in China for almost 20 years, doesn't have any complaints. Another is looking to get a product made there.
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Postby andy7171 » Mon May 06, 2019 11:20 am

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Re: Chinese Trade Negotiations

Postby Ibanez » Mon May 06, 2019 1:32 pm

andy7171 wrote:Fortune cookies are still free ain't they?

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Re: RE: Re: Chinese Trade Negotiations

Postby UNI88 » Mon May 06, 2019 7:01 pm

Ibanez wrote:
andy7171 wrote:Fortune cookies are still free ain't they?

Free with purchase
Did Robert Kraft get a fortune cookie? He made a purchase.

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Re: Chinese Trade Negotiations

Postby CID1990 » Mon May 06, 2019 8:05 pm

mainejeff wrote:How's that working out for ya? :roll: :oops:

#MAGAt

:coffee:


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Postby Ivytalk » Tue May 07, 2019 3:00 am

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Re: Chinese Trade Negotiations

Postby mainejeff » Tue May 07, 2019 5:45 pm

CID1990 wrote:
mainejeff wrote:How's that working out for ya? :roll: :oops:

#MAGAt

:coffee:


Better than no trade negotiations at all, Jearf


The stock market rises on hope....Trump is crushing all the hope. He doesn't have an IRA or 401K. Why should he give a fuck?

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Re: RE: Re: Chinese Trade Negotiations

Postby SeattleGriz » Tue May 07, 2019 5:51 pm

mainejeff wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
Better than no trade negotiations at all, Jearf


The stock market rises on hope....Trump is crushing all the hope. He doesn't have an IRA or 401K. Why should he give a fuck?

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Re: Chinese Trade Negotiations

Postby Pwns » Tue May 07, 2019 6:07 pm

mainejeff wrote:How's that working out for ya? :roll: :oops:

#MAGAt

:coffee:


Oh, so now what direction the stock market goes does matter?
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Re: Chinese Trade Negotiations

Postby CID1990 » Tue May 07, 2019 8:06 pm

I enjoy seeing people who criticized Trump for trashing the TPP also criticizing him about trade negotiations with China

TPP - we lose no matter what

Trade negotiations with China (with tariff lever) - maybe we lose


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Re: RE: Re: Chinese Trade Negotiations

Postby mainejeff » Wed May 08, 2019 3:18 am

SeattleGriz wrote:
mainejeff wrote:
The stock market rises on hope....Trump is crushing all the hope. He doesn't have an IRA or 401K. Why should he give a fuck?

:coffee:
My 401 has done great since we have a real President. I don't care if he has one, mine is doing great.


How did it do from 2008 to 2016?

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Re: Chinese Trade Negotiations

Postby SDHornet » Wed May 08, 2019 8:41 pm

The document was riddled with reversals by China that undermined core U.S. demands, the sources told Reuters.

In each of the seven chapters of the draft trade deal, China had deleted its commitments to change laws to resolve core complaints that caused the United States to launch a trade war: Theft of U.S. intellectual property and trade secrets; forced technology transfers; competition policy; access to financial services; and currency manipulation.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trade-china-backtracking-exclusiv/exclusive-china-backtracked-on-nearly-all-aspects-of-u-s-trade-deal-sources-idUSKCN1SE0WJ

So China does what China does and Trump lives up to his end of the bargain and hammers them with the additional tariffs. The plot thickens.

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Re: Chinese Trade Negotiations

Postby Ivytalk » Thu May 09, 2019 3:12 am

SDHornet wrote:
The document was riddled with reversals by China that undermined core U.S. demands, the sources told Reuters.

In each of the seven chapters of the draft trade deal, China had deleted its commitments to change laws to resolve core complaints that caused the United States to launch a trade war: Theft of U.S. intellectual property and trade secrets; forced technology transfers; competition policy; access to financial services; and currency manipulation.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trade-china-backtracking-exclusiv/exclusive-china-backtracked-on-nearly-all-aspects-of-u-s-trade-deal-sources-idUSKCN1SE0WJ

So China does what China does and Trump lives up to his end of the bargain and hammers them with the additional tariffs. The plot thickens.

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Re: Chinese Trade Negotiations

Postby mainejeff » Thu May 09, 2019 4:05 am

Trump will punish his #Deplorables (and the rest of us) with higher tariffs. He ain't beating the Chinese. :thumb: He will cause us pain and in 2 years it will be someone else's mess to clean up.

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Re: Chinese Trade Negotiations

Postby CID1990 » Thu May 09, 2019 4:26 am

mainejeff wrote:Trump will punish his #Deplorables (and the rest of us) with higher tariffs. He ain't beating the Chinese. :thumb: He will cause us pain and in 2 years it will be someone else's mess to clean up.

:coffee:


We are already there - and have been for 20 years. We are just in the thrashing around stage now

But if you think Chinese trade hegemony and the eventual shift to world trade in the Yuan are somehow not inevitable ... I have a 7 Gorges Dam to sell you

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Re: RE: Re: Chinese Trade Negotiations

Postby mainejeff » Thu May 09, 2019 4:31 am

mainejeff wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:My 401 has done great since we have a real President. I don't care if he has one, mine is doing great.


How did it do from 2008 to 2016?

:coffee:


Bump.

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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Chinese Trade Negotiations

Postby SeattleGriz » Thu May 09, 2019 4:48 am

mainejeff wrote:
mainejeff wrote:
How did it do from 2008 to 2016?

:coffee:


Bump.

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Not as well as it is now.
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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Chinese Trade Negotiations

Postby mainejeff » Thu May 09, 2019 5:07 am

SeattleGriz wrote:
mainejeff wrote:
Bump.

:coffee:
Not as well as it is now.


On Jan. 23, 2009 when Obama took office.....the Dow stood at 8077. When he left office it was 19827 on Jan.20, 2017. That's +11750 (+168%).

When Trump took office on Jan.20, 2017 the Dow stood at 19827. It now stands at 25967. That's +6140 (+31%)

You must be one of those horrible emotional investors if you didn't get higher returns from 2009-2017. :thumb:

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Postby SeattleGriz » Thu May 09, 2019 5:16 am

mainejeff wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:Not as well as it is now.


On Jan. 23, 2009 when Obama took office.....the Dow stood at 8077. When he left office it was 19827 on Jan.20, 2017. That's +11750 (+168%).

When Trump took office on Jan.20, 2017 the Dow stood at 19827. It now stands at 25967. That's +6140 (+31%)

You must be one of those horrible emotional investors if you didn't get higher returns from 2009-2017. :thumb:

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Good point. I'll have to look at the returns if posted on the website.
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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Chinese Trade Negotiations

Postby SeattleGriz » Thu May 09, 2019 3:17 pm

mainejeff wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:Not as well as it is now.


On Jan. 23, 2009 when Obama took office.....the Dow stood at 8077. When he left office it was 19827 on Jan.20, 2017. That's +11750 (+168%).

When Trump took office on Jan.20, 2017 the Dow stood at 19827. It now stands at 25967. That's +6140 (+31%)

You must be one of those horrible emotional investors if you didn't get higher returns from 2009-2017. :thumb:

:coffee:

Nope. Obama 7.5% Trump 15%
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Re: Chinese Trade Negotiations

Postby CID1990 » Thu May 09, 2019 4:02 pm

mainejeff wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:Not as well as it is now.


On Jan. 23, 2009 when Obama took office.....the Dow stood at 8077. When he left office it was 19827 on Jan.20, 2017. That's +11750 (+168%).

When Trump took office on Jan.20, 2017 the Dow stood at 19827. It now stands at 25967. That's +6140 (+31%)

You must be one of those horrible emotional investors if you didn't get higher returns from 2009-2017. :thumb:

:coffee:


Where’s JSO?

He usually vets numbers and stuff


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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Chinese Trade Negotiations

Postby mainejeff » Thu May 09, 2019 4:24 pm

SeattleGriz wrote:
mainejeff wrote:
On Jan. 23, 2009 when Obama took office.....the Dow stood at 8077. When he left office it was 19827 on Jan.20, 2017. That's +11750 (+168%).

When Trump took office on Jan.20, 2017 the Dow stood at 19827. It now stands at 25967. That's +6140 (+31%)

You must be one of those horrible emotional investors if you didn't get higher returns from 2009-2017. :thumb:

:coffee:

Nope. Obama 7.5% Trump 15%
Twice as good and twice the man.


You must be one of those people that puts all of their money in cash when someone you don't like is running things. Pathetic.

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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Chinese Trade Negotiations

Postby SeattleGriz » Thu May 09, 2019 4:28 pm

mainejeff wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:Nope. Obama 7.5% Trump 15%
Twice as good and twice the man.


You must be one of those people that puts all of their money in cash when someone you don't like is running things. Pathetic.

:coffee:


By putting it all in cash, you mean letting the financial advisor run your 401, then yes, I am guilty.

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