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Somali Pirates...

Postby Chizzang » Tue May 07, 2019 11:06 am

How Somalia’s Pirates Make Money (damn fascinating)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZh0B8AYxac

Pirates getting handled

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Re: Somali Pirates...

Postby 89Hen » Tue May 07, 2019 12:11 pm

Chizzang wrote:Pirates getting handled

I'm close to a pacifist, but I do love seeing these assholes get crushed.
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Re: Somali Pirates...

Postby BDKJMU » Tue May 07, 2019 3:18 pm

I know it was a big issue in the Gulf of Aden and Indian Ocean off the coast of Somalia in the last decade, but from what I’ve read, was drastically reduced by 2012. One of the countermeasures deployed was armed security on cargo ships & tankers, something the shipping companies were far too slow to implement. Obviously very effective even versus multiple pirate boats. Don’t even need crew serve weapons. Just a couple guys with M4s.
From 2012, looks like a 3 man security team shot up one pirate boat and drive another off.
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Re: Somali Pirates...

Postby Chizzang » Tue May 07, 2019 3:49 pm

BDKJMU wrote:I know it was a big issue in the Gulf of Aden and Indian Ocean off the coast of Somalia in the last decade, but from what I’ve read, was drastically reduced by 2012. One of the countermeasures deployed was armed security on cargo ships & tankers, something the shipping companies were far too slow to implement. Obviously very effective even versus multiple pirate boats. Don’t even need crew serve weapons. Just a couple guys with M4s.
From 2012, looks like a 3 man security team shot up one pirate boat and drive another off.
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We're on the other side of the worst of it fore sure
but that period from 2005 to 2013 will go down in Maritime History as a "Pirate era"

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Re: Somali Pirates...

Postby Ivytalk » Tue May 07, 2019 5:11 pm

Drop Omar on a Somali pirate ship from 10,000 feet. That’ll stop it real quick.
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Re: Somali Pirates...

Postby CID1990 » Wed May 08, 2019 5:02 pm

Chizzang wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:I know it was a big issue in the Gulf of Aden and Indian Ocean off the coast of Somalia in the last decade, but from what I’ve read, was drastically reduced by 2012. One of the countermeasures deployed was armed security on cargo ships & tankers, something the shipping companies were far too slow to implement. Obviously very effective even versus multiple pirate boats. Don’t even need crew serve weapons. Just a couple guys with M4s.
From 2012, looks like a 3 man security team shot up one pirate boat and drive another off.
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We're on the other side of the worst of it fore sure
but that period from 2005 to 2013 will go down in Maritime History as a "Pirate era"

:nod:


They also contributed to the cruising economies of coastal cities in southeastern Africa.

Back before the piracy became a problem, people circumnavigating in private boats from east to west would transit the Indian Ocean to the Seychelles, and then up around the horn to the Suez Canal and into the Mediterranean.

Now, cruisers opt for Madagascar, Zanzibar, down around to Cape Town before crossing the south Atlantic to Brazil. Those areas have actually seen new marinas pop up to accommodate the new cruising traffic

A captain I was sailing with last November told me that you can still transit past Somalia up to the Suez because there are a couple companies for hire that provide armed escort to sailboats in caravans. Expensive, and your yacht has to be able to make something like 7 knots continuously. I’d like to do that just on the chance to see some pirates get blasted


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Re: Somali Pirates...

Postby 93henfan » Wed May 08, 2019 6:27 pm

BDKJMU wrote:I know it was a big issue in the Gulf of Aden and Indian Ocean off the coast of Somalia in the last decade, but from what I’ve read, was drastically reduced by 2012. One of the countermeasures deployed was armed security on cargo ships & tankers, something the shipping companies were far too slow to implement. Obviously very effective even versus multiple pirate boats. Don’t even need crew serve weapons. Just a couple guys with M4s.
From 2012, looks like a 3 man security team shot up one pirate boat and drive another off.
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Re: Somali Pirates...

Postby houndawg » Sun May 12, 2019 10:55 am

CID1990 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
We're on the other side of the worst of it fore sure
but that period from 2005 to 2013 will go down in Maritime History as a "Pirate era"

:nod:


They also contributed to the cruising economies of coastal cities in southeastern Africa.

Back before the piracy became a problem, people circumnavigating in private boats from east to west would transit the Indian Ocean to the Seychelles, and then up around the horn to the Suez Canal and into the Mediterranean.

Now, cruisers opt for Madagascar, Zanzibar, down around to Cape Town before crossing the south Atlantic to Brazil. Those areas have actually seen new marinas pop up to accommodate the new cruising traffic

A captain I was sailing with last November told me that you can still transit past Somalia up to the Suez because there are a couple companies for hire that provide armed escort to sailboats in caravans. Expensive, and your yacht has to be able to make something like 7 knots continuously. I’d like to do that just on the chance to see some pirates get blasted


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Have you considered making your trip in a power boat? I've heard that some of the marine diesels have serious range?
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Re: Somali Pirates...

Postby CID1990 » Sun May 12, 2019 3:58 pm

houndawg wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
They also contributed to the cruising economies of coastal cities in southeastern Africa.

Back before the piracy became a problem, people circumnavigating in private boats from east to west would transit the Indian Ocean to the Seychelles, and then up around the horn to the Suez Canal and into the Mediterranean.

Now, cruisers opt for Madagascar, Zanzibar, down around to Cape Town before crossing the south Atlantic to Brazil. Those areas have actually seen new marinas pop up to accommodate the new cruising traffic

A captain I was sailing with last November told me that you can still transit past Somalia up to the Suez because there are a couple companies for hire that provide armed escort to sailboats in caravans. Expensive, and your yacht has to be able to make something like 7 knots continuously. I’d like to do that just on the chance to see some pirates get blasted


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Have you considered making your trip in a power boat? I've heard that some of the marine diesels have serious range?


Powerboats capable of circumnavigating are way out of my range

I prefer sailing anyway


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Re: Somali Pirates...

Postby Chizzang » Sun May 12, 2019 5:20 pm

CID1990 wrote:
houndawg wrote:

Have you considered making your trip in a power boat? I've heard that some of the marine diesels have serious range?


Powerboats capable of circumnavigating are way out of my range

I prefer sailing anyway



it's a **** of a lot quieter...

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I used to take an old junker catamaran out and just drop anchor and sleep

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Re: Somali Pirates...

Postby CID1990 » Sun May 12, 2019 7:32 pm

Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
Powerboats capable of circumnavigating are way out of my range

I prefer sailing anyway



it's a **** of a lot quieter...

:lol:

I used to take an old junker catamaran out and just drop anchor and sleep

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Yep I was going to mention that I don’t want to spend a couple years going around with diesel clatter in my ears

There is something to be said for hoisting a sail and the only noise is the wind and the sea


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Postby UNI88 » Sun May 12, 2019 7:53 pm

CID1990 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
it's a **** of a lot quieter...



I used to take an old junker catamaran out and just drop anchor and sleep



Yep I was going to mention that I don’t want to spend a couple years going around with diesel clatter in my ears

There is something to be said for hoisting a sail and the only noise is the wind and the sea


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Re: Somali Pirates...

Postby ALPHAGRIZ1 » Sun May 12, 2019 8:31 pm

CID1990 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
it's a **** of a lot quieter...

:lol:

I used to take an old junker catamaran out and just drop anchor and sleep

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Yep I was going to mention that I don’t want to spend a couple years going around with diesel clatter in my ears

There is something to be said for hoisting a sail and the only noise is the wind and the sea


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Just get quiet diesel engines :coffee:
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Re: Somali Pirates...

Postby CID1990 » Mon May 13, 2019 2:43 am

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Yep I was going to mention that I don’t want to spend a couple years going around with diesel clatter in my ears

There is something to be said for hoisting a sail and the only noise is the wind and the sea


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Just get quiet diesel engines :coffee:


I’m not sure what part about the “sound of wind and sea” you didn’t get

Besides, why use expensive gas to get myself someplace I can simply sail to?


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Re: Somali Pirates...

Postby ALPHAGRIZ1 » Mon May 13, 2019 6:09 am

Why drive a vehicle when you can use your feet....

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CID1990 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
it's a **** of a lot quieter...

:lol:

I used to take an old junker catamaran out and just drop anchor and sleep

:sleep:


Yep I was going to mention that I don’t want to spend a couple years going around with diesel clatter in my ears



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Re: RE: Re: Somali Pirates...

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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Why drive a vehicle when you can use your feet....

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I mean... This seems like checkmate

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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Why drive a vehicle when you can use your feet....

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If you could do around 125 nautical miles per day, on a trip of 2500 NM using your feet, then yeah


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Postby JohnStOnge » Tue May 14, 2019 6:18 pm

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clenz wrote:
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Why drive a vehicle when you can use your feet....

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I mean... This seems like checkmate

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clenz wrote:I mean... This seems like checkmate

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It was


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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Why drive a vehicle when you can use your feet....

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Why drift down a river when you can use a motor to get there quickly?

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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Somali Pirates...

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UNI88 wrote:
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Why drive a vehicle when you can use your feet....

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Why drift down a river when you can use a motor to get there quickly?

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Too loud compared to drifting.

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clenz wrote:
UNI88 wrote:Why drift down a river when you can use a motor to get there quickly?

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Too loud compared to drifting.

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Kind of like using a diesel compared to sailing.

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