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Somali Pirates...
Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 11:06 am
by Chizzang
Re: Somali Pirates...
Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 12:11 pm
by 89Hen
Chizzang wrote:Pirates getting handled
I'm close to a pacifist, but I do love seeing these assholes get crushed.
Re: Somali Pirates...
Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 3:18 pm
by BDKJMU
I know it was a big issue in the Gulf of Aden and Indian Ocean off the coast of Somalia in the last decade, but from what I’ve read, was drastically reduced by 2012. One of the countermeasures deployed was armed security on cargo ships & tankers, something the shipping companies were far too slow to implement. Obviously very effective even versus multiple pirate boats. Don’t even need crew serve weapons. Just a couple guys with M4s.
From 2012, looks like a 3 man security team shot up one pirate boat and drive another off.
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Re: Somali Pirates...
Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 3:49 pm
by Chizzang
BDKJMU wrote:I know it was a big issue in the Gulf of Aden and Indian Ocean off the coast of Somalia in the last decade, but from what I’ve read, was drastically reduced by 2012. One of the countermeasures deployed was armed security on cargo ships & tankers, something the shipping companies were far too slow to implement. Obviously very effective even versus multiple pirate boats. Don’t even need crew serve weapons. Just a couple guys with M4s.
From 2012, looks like a 3 man security team shot up one pirate boat and drive another off.
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We're on the other side of the worst of it fore sure
but that period from 2005 to 2013 will go down in Maritime History as a "Pirate era"

Re: Somali Pirates...
Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 5:11 pm
by Ivytalk
Drop Omar on a Somali pirate ship from 10,000 feet. That’ll stop it real quick.
Re: Somali Pirates...
Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 5:02 pm
by CID1990
Chizzang wrote:BDKJMU wrote:I know it was a big issue in the Gulf of Aden and Indian Ocean off the coast of Somalia in the last decade, but from what I’ve read, was drastically reduced by 2012. One of the countermeasures deployed was armed security on cargo ships & tankers, something the shipping companies were far too slow to implement. Obviously very effective even versus multiple pirate boats. Don’t even need crew serve weapons. Just a couple guys with M4s.
From 2012, looks like a 3 man security team shot up one pirate boat and drive another off.
.
We're on the other side of the worst of it fore sure
but that period from 2005 to 2013 will go down in Maritime History as a "Pirate era"

They also contributed to the cruising economies of coastal cities in southeastern Africa.
Back before the piracy became a problem, people circumnavigating in private boats from east to west would transit the Indian Ocean to the Seychelles, and then up around the horn to the Suez Canal and into the Mediterranean.
Now, cruisers opt for Madagascar, Zanzibar, down around to Cape Town before crossing the south Atlantic to Brazil. Those areas have actually seen new marinas pop up to accommodate the new cruising traffic
A captain I was sailing with last November told me that you can still transit past Somalia up to the Suez because there are a couple companies for hire that provide armed escort to sailboats in caravans. Expensive, and your yacht has to be able to make something like 7 knots continuously. I’d like to do that just on the chance to see some pirates get blasted
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Re: Somali Pirates...
Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 6:27 pm
by 93henfan
BDKJMU wrote:I know it was a big issue in the Gulf of Aden and Indian Ocean off the coast of Somalia in the last decade, but from what I’ve read, was drastically reduced by 2012. One of the countermeasures deployed was armed security on cargo ships & tankers, something the shipping companies were far too slow to implement. Obviously very effective even versus multiple pirate boats. Don’t even need crew serve weapons. Just a couple guys with M4s.
From 2012, looks like a 3 man security team shot up one pirate boat and drive another off.
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I feel bad for the parrots. Innocent victims.
Re: Somali Pirates...
Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 10:55 am
by houndawg
CID1990 wrote:Chizzang wrote:
We're on the other side of the worst of it fore sure
but that period from 2005 to 2013 will go down in Maritime History as a "Pirate era"

They also contributed to the cruising economies of coastal cities in southeastern Africa.
Back before the piracy became a problem, people circumnavigating in private boats from east to west would transit the Indian Ocean to the Seychelles, and then up around the horn to the Suez Canal and into the Mediterranean.
Now, cruisers opt for Madagascar, Zanzibar, down around to Cape Town before crossing the south Atlantic to Brazil. Those areas have actually seen new marinas pop up to accommodate the new cruising traffic
A captain I was sailing with last November told me that you can still transit past Somalia up to the Suez because there are a couple
companies for hire that provide armed escort to sailboats in caravans. Expensive, and your yacht has to be able to make something like 7 knots continuously. I’d like to do that just on the chance to see some pirates get blasted
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Have you considered making your trip in a power boat? I've heard that some of the marine diesels have serious range?
Re: Somali Pirates...
Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 3:58 pm
by CID1990
houndawg wrote:CID1990 wrote:
They also contributed to the cruising economies of coastal cities in southeastern Africa.
Back before the piracy became a problem, people circumnavigating in private boats from east to west would transit the Indian Ocean to the Seychelles, and then up around the horn to the Suez Canal and into the Mediterranean.
Now, cruisers opt for Madagascar, Zanzibar, down around to Cape Town before crossing the south Atlantic to Brazil. Those areas have actually seen new marinas pop up to accommodate the new cruising traffic
A captain I was sailing with last November told me that you can still transit past Somalia up to the Suez because there are a couple companies for hire that provide armed escort to sailboats in caravans. Expensive, and your yacht has to be able to make something like 7 knots continuously. I’d like to do that just on the chance to see some pirates get blasted
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Have you considered making your trip in a power boat? I've heard that some of the marine diesels have serious range?
Powerboats capable of circumnavigating are way out of my range
I prefer sailing anyway
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Re: Somali Pirates...
Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 5:20 pm
by Chizzang
CID1990 wrote:houndawg wrote:
Have you considered making your trip in a power boat? I've heard that some of the marine diesels have serious range?
Powerboats capable of circumnavigating are way out of my range
I prefer sailing anyway
it's a fuck of a lot quieter...
I used to take an old junker catamaran out and just drop anchor and sleep

Re: Somali Pirates...
Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 7:32 pm
by CID1990
Chizzang wrote:CID1990 wrote:
Powerboats capable of circumnavigating are way out of my range
I prefer sailing anyway
it's a **** of a lot quieter...
I used to take an old junker catamaran out and just drop anchor and sleep

Yep I was going to mention that I don’t want to spend a couple years going around with diesel clatter in my ears
There is something to be said for hoisting a sail and the only noise is the wind and the sea
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Re: RE: Re: Somali Pirates...
Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 7:53 pm
by UNI88
CID1990 wrote:Chizzang wrote:
it's a **** of a lot quieter...
I used to take an old junker catamaran out and just drop anchor and sleep

Yep I was going to mention that I don’t want to spend a couple years going around with diesel clatter in my ears
There is something to be said for hoisting a sail and the only noise is the wind and the sea
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I haven't sailed anything in 30 years. I miss it.
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Re: Somali Pirates...
Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 8:31 pm
by ALPHAGRIZ1
CID1990 wrote:Chizzang wrote:
it's a **** of a lot quieter...
I used to take an old junker catamaran out and just drop anchor and sleep

Yep I was going to mention that I don’t want to spend a couple years going around with diesel clatter in my ears
There is something to be said for hoisting a sail and the only noise is the wind and the sea
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Just get quiet diesel engines

Re: Somali Pirates...
Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 2:43 am
by CID1990
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:CID1990 wrote:
Yep I was going to mention that I don’t want to spend a couple years going around with diesel clatter in my ears
There is something to be said for hoisting a sail and the only noise is the wind and the sea
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Just get quiet diesel engines

I’m not sure what part about the “sound of wind and sea” you didn’t get
Besides, why use expensive gas to get myself someplace I can simply sail to?
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Re: Somali Pirates...
Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 6:09 am
by ALPHAGRIZ1
Why drive a vehicle when you can use your feet....
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Re: Somali Pirates...
Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 8:01 am
by AZGrizFan
CID1990 wrote:Chizzang wrote:
it's a **** of a lot quieter...
I used to take an old junker catamaran out and just drop anchor and sleep

Yep I was going to mention that I don’t want to spend a couple years going around with diesel clatter in my ears
I keep picturing Quint's boat in my mind....

Re: RE: Re: Somali Pirates...
Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 10:45 am
by clenz
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Why drive a vehicle when you can use your feet....
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I mean... This seems like checkmate
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Re: Somali Pirates...
Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 3:50 pm
by CID1990
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Why drive a vehicle when you can use your feet....
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If you could do around 125 nautical miles per day, on a trip of 2500 NM using your feet, then yeah
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Re: Somali Pirates...
Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 6:18 pm
by JohnStOnge
This turned weird.
Re: RE: Re: Somali Pirates...
Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 8:31 pm
by ALPHAGRIZ1
clenz wrote:ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Why drive a vehicle when you can use your feet....
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I mean... This seems like checkmate
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It was
Re: RE: Re: Somali Pirates...
Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 8:57 pm
by CID1990
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:clenz wrote:I mean... This seems like checkmate
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It was
Until it wasn't

Re: RE: Re: Somali Pirates...
Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 9:48 pm
by UNI88
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Why drive a vehicle when you can use your feet....
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Why drift down a river when you can use a motor to get there quickly?
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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Somali Pirates...
Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 4:32 am
by clenz
UNI88 wrote:ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Why drive a vehicle when you can use your feet....
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Why drift down a river when you can use a motor to get there quickly?
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Too loud compared to drifting.
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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Somali Pirates...
Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 6:51 am
by UNI88
clenz wrote:UNI88 wrote:Why drift down a river when you can use a motor to get there quickly?
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Too loud compared to drifting.
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Kind of like using a diesel compared to sailing.
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Re: Somali Pirates...
Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 7:33 am
by ALPHAGRIZ1
Is it