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Don't call it climate change

Postby HI54UNI » Fri May 17, 2019 2:05 pm

Global warming is no longer climate change. Now it's a climate emergency! Or climate crisis! Or climate breakdown! And global warming is now global heating!

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Re: Don't call it climate change

Postby Chizzang » Fri May 17, 2019 2:14 pm

HI54UNI wrote:Global warming is no longer climate change. Now it's a climate emergency! Or climate crisis! Or climate breakdown! And global warming is now global heating!

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Look I get it...
we'll be dead soon so who cares (I certainly will, I'm in my 50's)
but due to various geographical anomaly, aren't you in one of the states that gets the most climate disasters?

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Iowa is strangely getting colder and weirder and wetter by the year
as most other states are getting hotter and dryer
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Re: Don't call it climate change

Postby Gil Dobie » Fri May 17, 2019 2:27 pm

I'm perfectly fine with the term Climate Change.

Global warming was so algorian.
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Re: Don't call it climate change

Postby TheDancinMonarch » Sat May 18, 2019 8:43 am

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Re: Don't call it climate change

Postby CID1990 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:18 pm

Glacier National Park just took down all their signs (erected during the previous administration) that claimed that the glaciers there would be completely gone by 2020.

Spoiler: the glaciers expanded slightly over the last two years, and will certainly still be there in 2020

I think they should have left them up.
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Re: Don't call it climate change

Postby Chizzang » Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:41 pm

CID1990 wrote:Glacier National Park just took down all their signs (erected during the previous administration) that claimed that the glaciers there would be completely gone by 2020.

Spoiler: the glaciers expanded slightly over the last two years, and will certainly still be there in 2020

I think they should have left them up.

The Central U.S. winters are trending worse between Montana and Illinois
while the coasts are getting warmer

weird as hell
they say the the cold currents coming down from Canada will increase as the coasts get warmer

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So I would look for the glaciers to increase in that area
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Re: Don't call it climate change

Postby CID1990 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:55 am

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CID1990 wrote:Glacier National Park just took down all their signs (erected during the previous administration) that claimed that the glaciers there would be completely gone by 2020.

Spoiler: the glaciers expanded slightly over the last two years, and will certainly still be there in 2020

I think they should have left them up.

The Central U.S. winters are trending worse between Montana and Illinois
while the coasts are getting warmer

weird as hell
they say the the cold currents coming down from Canada will increase as the coasts get warmer

:nod:

So I would look for the glaciers to increase in that area


I’ve said many times -

the fact of climate change is frequently conflated with the hypotheses of its effects

Many people will rightly point to hard scientific numbers that show CO2 levels rising, and that the rise is anthropogenic

but then they go completely off the rails with cities under water, glaciers disappearing (with none forming somewhere else), hockey sticks, and other crystal ball nonsense

I think the signs should be left up as monuments to the hubris of ignorance


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Re: Don't call it climate change

Postby Skjellyfetti » Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:00 am

CID1990 wrote:Glacier National Park just took down all their signs (erected during the previous administration) that claimed that the glaciers there would be completely gone by 2020.

Spoiler: the glaciers expanded slightly over the last two years, and will certainly still be there in 2020

I think they should have left them up.


Sounds like bullshit. Googling only comes up with HotAir and the like. Link?

Closest I can find is them citing a 2003 study that said two of the largest glaciers could become inactive by 2030

https://www.nps.gov/glac/learn/nature/m ... aciers.htm
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Re: Don't call it climate change

Postby AZGrizFan » Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:13 am

Skjellyfetti wrote:
CID1990 wrote:Glacier National Park just took down all their signs (erected during the previous administration) that claimed that the glaciers there would be completely gone by 2020.

Spoiler: the glaciers expanded slightly over the last two years, and will certainly still be there in 2020

I think they should have left them up.


Sounds like bullshit. Googling only comes up with HotAir and the like. Link?

Closest I can find is them citing a 2003 study that said two of the largest glaciers could become inactive by 2030

https://www.nps.gov/glac/learn/nature/m ... aciers.htm


Does anyone else think its odd that in an alleged effort to "repeat" a photograph to show the effects of climate change not a SINGLE one of those comparative pictures shows the same spot? Or is taken FROM the same spot?

And analjelly, before you go all spandos on me, I'm not insinuating the glaciers aren't receding. They are. I've been up there myself many times over the past 40+ years and seen some of the changes. But it just makes one suspicious (like maybe they're trying to exaggerate the impact?) when two photos don't show the same spot from the same angle...it's really not that difficult.
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Re: Don't call it climate change

Postby CID1990 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:04 am

Skjellyfetti wrote:
CID1990 wrote:Glacier National Park just took down all their signs (erected during the previous administration) that claimed that the glaciers there would be completely gone by 2020.

Spoiler: the glaciers expanded slightly over the last two years, and will certainly still be there in 2020

I think they should have left them up.


Sounds like bullshit. Googling only comes up with HotAir and the like. Link?

Closest I can find is them citing a 2003 study that said two of the largest glaciers could become inactive by 2030

https://www.nps.gov/glac/learn/nature/m ... aciers.htm


Wrong, Reek.

There was a visitor’s center sign in the park that announced they’d be gone by 2020. It was removed recently. Fact.

You are MY bitch, not the other way around. Go find your own goddamn link. Prove me wrong.

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Re: Don't call it climate change

Postby 93henfan » Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:20 am

I can only speak confidently on my little slice of the pie. Every winter growing up, the ponds of Slower DE froze solid and we'd buy ice skates and skate most of Jan and Feb.

In the mid 80s, the freezing started to be hit or miss.

Now they don't freeze over any more. You may get superficial patches here and there for a week.

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Re: Don't call it climate change

Postby Skjellyfetti » Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:21 am

Just wondering where you came by the info.

I don't see anything that makes me think NPS believed all glaciers would be gone from GNP by 2020.

I doubt there was a sign in the visitors center that said that. Thought you'd have seen something to convince you of the fact. I guess not.

https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/too ... n-of-Proof
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Re: Don't call it climate change

Postby 89Hen » Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:54 am

Chizzang wrote:as most other states are getting hotter and dryer

We're cooler and WAY wetter than normal the last few years.
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Re: Don't call it climate change

Postby Col Hogan » Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:04 am

89Hen wrote:
Chizzang wrote:as most other states are getting hotter and dryer

We're cooler and WAY wetter than normal the last few years.


Boat ramps at lots of Texas State Parks are not opening til at least July because there is too much water in the lakes...
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Re: Don't call it climate change

Postby 89Hen » Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:07 am

Col Hogan wrote:
89Hen wrote:We're cooler and WAY wetter than normal the last few years.


Boat ramps at lots of Texas State Parks are not opening til at least July because there is too much water in the lakes...

Our woods in back of our house are the most full of foliage I've seen in the 20 years we've lived here.
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Re: Don't call it climate change

Postby Col Hogan » Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:12 am

89Hen wrote:
Col Hogan wrote:
Boat ramps at lots of Texas State Parks are not opening til at least July because there is too much water in the lakes...

Our woods in back of our house are the most full of foliage I've seen in the 20 years we've lived here.


I normally have my lawn watering system set up to water three times a week...so far this year, I’ve watered four times...the rest has been covered by rain...

It is Texas, and the forecast for the next ten days has only one day of rain...so things are returning to normal...but we’ve definitely had a very wet spring...
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Re: Don't call it climate change

Postby 93henfan » Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:38 am

Keep the flyover zone nice the next two weeks, as I will be driving through instead of flying over this time. Thanks in advance.
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Re: Don't call it climate change

Postby CID1990 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:10 pm

Skjellyfetti wrote:Just wondering where you came by the info.

I don't see anything that makes me think NPS believed all glaciers would be gone from GNP by 2020.

I doubt there was a sign in the visitors center that said that. Thought you'd have seen something to convince you of the fact. I guess not.

https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/too ... n-of-Proof


You need to learn what fallacious logic is, Reek

(this ain’t it)

This is me telling you I don’t provide links on demand for mental chihuahuas (thanks clitz)

The visitor’s center sign said the glaciers in the park would be gone by 2020 - fact

it has now been removed -fact

Not sure why you’re so triggered over facts


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Re: Don't call it climate change

Postby AZGrizFan » Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:28 pm

Col Hogan wrote:
89Hen wrote:Our woods in back of our house are the most full of foliage I've seen in the 20 years we've lived here.


I normally have my lawn watering system set up to water three times a week...so far this year, I’ve watered four times...the rest has been covered by rain...

It is Texas, and the forecast for the next ten days has only one day of rain...so things are returning to normal...but we’ve definitely had a very wet spring...


Quit wasting water, motherfucker!!!! :tothehand: :tothehand: :kisswink:

In San Antonio we're only allowed to water ONE day a week. I have not turned on my water ONCE since last September. It has rained at a minimum every 3rd day since then except ONE stretch of 4 days without rain. My back yard is perfect right now, and I haven't had to pay through the nose to get it there. :thumb: :thumb:
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Re: Don't call it climate change

Postby AZGrizFan » Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:31 pm

CID1990 wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:Just wondering where you came by the info.

I don't see anything that makes me think NPS believed all glaciers would be gone from GNP by 2020.

I doubt there was a sign in the visitors center that said that. Thought you'd have seen something to convince you of the fact. I guess not.

https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/too ... n-of-Proof


You need to learn what fallacious logic is, Reek

(this ain’t it)

This is me telling you I don’t provide links on demand for mental chihuahuas (thanks clitz)

The visitor’s center sign said the glaciers in the park would be gone by 2020 - fact

it has now been removed -fact

Not sure why you’re so triggered over facts


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Re: Don't call it climate change

Postby CID1990 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:14 pm

AZGrizFan wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
You need to learn what fallacious logic is, Reek

(this ain’t it)

This is me telling you I don’t provide links on demand for mental chihuahuas (thanks clitz)

The visitor’s center sign said the glaciers in the park would be gone by 2020 - fact

it has now been removed -fact

Not sure why you’re so triggered over facts


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I think Reek’s sabbatical from being perpetually wrong wasn’t long enough.


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Re: Don't call it climate change

Postby JohnStOnge » Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:43 pm

They should have just stuck with "Global Warming" because there is indeed a warming trend in place right now. There may be questions about perspective with respect to geological time as well as with respect to cause and effect but, right now, we are in a warming trend.

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Re: Don't call it climate change

Postby CID1990 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:09 pm

JohnStOnge wrote:They should have just stuck with "Global Warming" because there is indeed a warming trend in place right now. There may be questions about perspective with respect to geological time as well as with respect to cause and effect but, right now, we are in a warming trend.

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I’m better with calling it Climate Unpredictability with Nonconformist Temperatures

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Re: Don't call it climate change

Postby AZGrizFan » Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:22 pm

CID1990 wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:They should have just stuck with "Global Warming" because there is indeed a warming trend in place right now. There may be questions about perspective with respect to geological time as well as with respect to cause and effect but, right now, we are in a warming trend.

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I’m better with calling it Climate Unpredictability with Nonconformist Temperatures

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Re: Don't call it climate change

Postby Chizzang » Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:21 pm

JohnStOnge wrote:They should have just stuck with "Global Warming" because there is indeed a warming trend in place right now. There may be questions about perspective with respect to geological time as well as with respect to cause and effect but, right now, we are in a warming trend.

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Technically correct...
8 of the last 10 years have been the hottest since records have been kept
and teh general trend for the last 30 years is up

Bill Nye has a standing bet for $50k with anybody willing to bet against 2019 being the hottest on record

it's Global Warming
but it doesn't manifest itself as such at every location on earth
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