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Re: Rural Americans would be serfs if we abolished the Electoral College

Postby houndawg » Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:02 am

Ivytalk wrote:
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A lawyer that can't spell... :roll:

Big picture we're pretty close to the same page actually.

You look it up. Kerfuffle is preferred and derived from the original Scottish expression. “Kerfluffle” is an American bastardization.

(Just like you.) :mrgreen:

And there’s no way a philosophical libertarian like CID or me is close to an armchair socialist like you. Bernie Sanders is no Justin Amash. :tothehand:



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Re: Rural Americans would be serfs if we abolished the Electoral College

Postby Ivytalk » Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:09 am

houndawg wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:You look it up. Kerfuffle is preferred and derived from the original Scottish expression. “Kerfluffle” is an American bastardization.

(Just like you.) :mrgreen:

And there’s no way a philosophical libertarian like CID or me is close to an armchair socialist like you. Bernie Sanders is no Justin Amash. :tothehand:
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Don't get yourself worked up, Mildred, I don't have eyes for your boyfriend. :kisswink:

and don't call me a socialist, Im an anarcho-nihilist. :lol:

Whatever, Mortimer. As opposed to an anarcho-syndicalist. BTW, how have those Trump tariffs affected your farm? The Donald is well on his way to losing every farm state. He’s on track to become the Alf Landon of the 21st century. He’ll carry just Mississippi and Alabama.
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Re: Rural Americans would be serfs if we abolished the Electoral College

Postby houndawg » Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:28 am

Ivytalk wrote:
houndawg wrote:n


Don't get yourself worked up, Mildred, I don't have eyes for your boyfriend. :kisswink:

and don't call me a socialist, Im an anarcho-nihilist. :lol:

Whatever, Mortimer. As opposed to an anarcho-syndicalist. BTW, how have those Trump tariffs affected your farm? The Donald is well on his way to losing every farm state. He’s on track to become the Alf Landon of the 21st century. He’ll carry just Mississippi and Alabama.


Haven't affected me at all - just like the rest of his so-called leadership. I may not be a "philosophical Libertarian" as you are but I bet my day-to-day life is more free than yours. :nod:

****, I'm out kayaking or rocking up some Bach with my music friends or gardening naked, or just sitting and absorbing a beautiful day with a fatty of Little Egypt Sucker Punch while you're squinting through coke-bottle glasses at the fine print of some gubmint contract three inches in front of your nose. You poor bastard.. :mrgreen:
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Re: Rural Americans would be serfs if we abolished the Electoral College

Postby UNI88 » Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:56 am

Ivytalk wrote:
houndawg wrote:
A lawyer that can't spell... :roll:

Big picture we're pretty close to the same page actually.

You look it up. Kerfuffle is preferred and derived from the original Scottish expression. “Kerfluffle” is an American bastardization.

(Just like you.) :mrgreen:

And there’s no way a philosophical libertarian like CID or me is close to an armchair socialist like you. Bernie Sanders is no Justin Amash. :tothehand:


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Re: Rural Americans would be serfs if we abolished the Electoral College

Postby houndawg » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:19 am

UNI88 wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:You look it up. Kerfuffle is preferred and derived from the original Scottish expression. “Kerfluffle” is an American bastardization.

(Just like you.) :mrgreen:

And there’s no way a philosophical libertarian like CID or me is close to an armchair socialist like you. Bernie Sanders is no Justin Amash. :tothehand:


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Re: Rural Americans would be serfs if we abolished the Electoral College

Postby houndawg » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:21 am

Ivytalk wrote:
houndawg wrote:
A lawyer that can't spell... :roll:

Big picture we're pretty close to the same page actually.

You look it up. Kerfuffle is preferred and derived from the original Scottish expression. “Kerfluffle” is an American bastardization.

(Just like you.) :mrgreen:

And there’s no way a philosophical libertarian like CID or me is close to an armchair socialist like you. Bernie Sanders is no Justin Amash. :tothehand:


We're in 'Merica, bitch. :tothehand:
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Re: Rural Americans would be serfs if we abolished the Electoral College

Postby Ivytalk » Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:13 pm

houndawg wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:Whatever, Mortimer. As opposed to an anarcho-syndicalist. BTW, how have those Trump tariffs affected your farm? The Donald is well on his way to losing every farm state. He’s on track to become the Alf Landon of the 21st century. He’ll carry just Mississippi and Alabama.


Haven't affected me at all - just like the rest of his so-called leadership. I may not be a "philosophical Libertarian" as you are but I bet my day-to-day life is more free than yours. :nod:

****, I'm out kayaking or rocking up some Bach with my music friends or gardening naked, or just sitting and absorbing a beautiful day with a fatty of Little Egypt Sucker Punch while you're squinting through coke-bottle glasses at the fine print of some gubmint contract three inches in front of your nose. You poor bastard.. :mrgreen:

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Postby UNI88 » Sat Jun 15, 2019 1:13 pm

houndawg wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:Whatever, Mortimer. As opposed to an anarcho-syndicalist. BTW, how have those Trump tariffs affected your farm? The Donald is well on his way to losing every farm state. He’s on track to become the Alf Landon of the 21st century. He’ll carry just Mississippi and Alabama.


Haven't affected me at all - just like the rest of his so-called leadership. I may not be a "philosophical Libertarian" as you are but I bet my day-to-day life is more free than yours. :nod:

****, I'm out kayaking or rocking up some Bach with my music friends or gardening naked, or just sitting and absorbing a beautiful day with a fatty of Little Egypt Sucker Punch while you're squinting through coke-bottle glasses at the fine print of some gubmint contract three inches in front of your nose. You poor bastard.. :mrgreen:


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Re: Rural Americans would be serfs if we abolished the Electoral College

Postby houndawg » Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:03 pm

Ivytalk wrote:
houndawg wrote:
Haven't affected me at all - just like the rest of his so-called leadership. I may not be a "philosophical Libertarian" as you are but I bet my day-to-day life is more free than yours. :nod:

****, I'm out kayaking or rocking up some Bach with my music friends or gardening naked, or just sitting and absorbing a beautiful day with a fatty of Little Egypt Sucker Punch while you're squinting through coke-bottle glasses at the fine print of some gubmint contract three inches in front of your nose. You poor bastard.. :mrgreen:

Freedom and irresponsibility are two different things. But hey, enjoy that fatty.


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Re: Rural Americans would be serfs if we abolished the Electoral College

Postby Chizzang » Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:21 pm

Ivytalk wrote:Whatever, Mortimer. As opposed to an anarcho-syndicalist. BTW, how have those Trump tariffs affected your farm? The Donald is well on his way to losing every farm state. He’s on track to become the Alf Landon of the 21st century. He’ll carry just Mississippi and Alabama.


Trump could personally burn U.S. farmers crops to the ground
Grab their daughters pussies and offer their wives money to **** on the side
and Trump wouldn't lose a single vote

:nod:

You underestimate the vast stupidity of tribalism
Trump speaks to them - then funcks them over - them tells them it's Obama and the Liberals

He's not going anywhere - the man is beloved by the very same people he's gashing
meanwhile \ Simultaneously
Trumps got the upper middle class Americans working overtime for him on his
"Shame the poor/ Blame the poor" movement...

:lol:

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Re: Rural Americans would be serfs if we abolished the Electoral College

Postby css75 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:20 pm

Chizzang wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:Whatever, Mortimer. As opposed to an anarcho-syndicalist. BTW, how have those Trump tariffs affected your farm? The Donald is well on his way to losing every farm state. He’s on track to become the Alf Landon of the 21st century. He’ll carry just Mississippi and Alabama.


Trump could personally burn U.S. farmers crops to the ground
Grab their daughters pussies and offer their wives money to **** on the side
and Trump wouldn't lose a single vote

:nod:

You underestimate the vast stupidity of tribalism
Trump speaks to them - then funcks them over - them tells them it's Obama and the Liberals

He's not going anywhere - the man is beloved by the very same people he's gashing
meanwhile \ Simultaneously
Trumps got the upper middle class Americans working overtime for him on his
"Shame the poor/ Blame the poor" movement...

:lol:

Trump in a cake walk 2020


Would there be just a tad of bitterness in that statement? Asking for a friend.


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Re: Rural Americans would be serfs if we abolished the Electoral College

Postby Chizzang » Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:28 pm

css75 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Trump could personally burn U.S. farmers crops to the ground
Grab their daughters pussies and offer their wives money to **** on the side
and Trump wouldn't lose a single vote

:nod:

You underestimate the vast stupidity of tribalism
Trump speaks to them - then funcks them over - them tells them it's Obama and the Liberals

He's not going anywhere - the man is beloved by the very same people he's gashing
meanwhile \ Simultaneously
Trumps got the upper middle class Americans working overtime for him on his
"Shame the poor/ Blame the poor" movement...

:lol:

Trump in a cake walk 2020


Would there be just a tad of bitterness in that statement? Asking for a friend.



Cynicism is not exactly bitterness...
Look we've seen similar behavior with American tribalism in the recent past

there is nothing new in my observation above
There's also nothing incorrect (as best as I can tell)
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Re: Rural Americans would be serfs if we abolished the Electoral College

Postby kalm » Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:16 pm

Chizzang wrote:
css75 wrote:
Would there be just a tad of bitterness in that statement? Asking for a friend.



Cynicism is not exactly bitterness...
Look we've seen similar behavior with American tribalism in the recent past

there is nothing new in my observation above
There's also nothing incorrect (as best as I can tell)


Cynics are altruistic by nature. :nod:

Btw, Trump trails Biden by 10 and Bernie by 9 in the latest Fox News poll. He trails Biden by 11 in Michigan. Quit trolling the poor conks. :ohno:
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Re: Rural Americans would be serfs if we abolished the Electoral College

Postby CID1990 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:44 pm

Chizzang wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:Whatever, Mortimer. As opposed to an anarcho-syndicalist. BTW, how have those Trump tariffs affected your farm? The Donald is well on his way to losing every farm state. He’s on track to become the Alf Landon of the 21st century. He’ll carry just Mississippi and Alabama.


Trump could personally burn U.S. farmers crops to the ground
Grab their daughters pussies and offer their wives money to **** on the side
and Trump wouldn't lose a single vote

:nod:

You underestimate the vast stupidity of tribalism
Trump speaks to them - then funcks them over - them tells them it's Obama and the Liberals

He's not going anywhere - the man is beloved by the very same people he's gashing
meanwhile \ Simultaneously
Trumps got the upper middle class Americans working overtime for him on his
"Shame the poor/ Blame the poor" movement...

:lol:

Trump in a cake walk 2020


That’s a bunch of elegant word salad but you’re still ripping off Hillary Clinton - who more succinctly paraphrased it by just calling them a basket of deplorables

But you both miss the mark (wildly)

It wasn’t Trump’s tribe that got him elected. It was ultimately voters who previously cast votes for Barack Obama who swung things for Trump

If it had just been the tribal (deplorable) voters, we’d be calling Hillary President right now

:nod:

I don’t *think* Trump is going to gather as many of those votes this time




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Re: Rural Americans would be serfs if we abolished the Electoral College

Postby Col Hogan » Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:46 pm

kalm wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Cynicism is not exactly bitterness...
Look we've seen similar behavior with American tribalism in the recent past

there is nothing new in my observation above
There's also nothing incorrect (as best as I can tell)


Cynics are altruistic by nature. :nod:

Btw, Trump trails Biden by 10 and Bernie by 9 in the latest Fox News poll. He trails Biden by 11 in Michigan. Quit trolling the poor conks. :ohno:


Are you willing to wager on the outcome next November, based on these numbers???

I wouldn’t, and I doubt you would either...

Polls right now are not worth the bits they are transmitted on...

If he’s trolling someone successfully...they deserve it...

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Re: Rural Americans would be serfs if we abolished the Electoral College

Postby JohnStOnge » Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:42 pm

Col Hogan wrote:
kalm wrote:
Cynics are altruistic by nature. :nod:

Btw, Trump trails Biden by 10 and Bernie by 9 in the latest Fox News poll. He trails Biden by 11 in Michigan. Quit trolling the poor conks. :ohno:


Are you willing to wager on the outcome next November, based on these numbers???

I wouldn’t, and I doubt you would either...

Polls right now are not worth the bits they are transmitted on...

If he’s trolling someone successfully...they deserve it...

:coffee:


I would be willing to bet that if Biden wins the Democrat nomination and doesn't croak before the election he will trounce Trump. Not absolute certainty. But enough to make me say I'd be willing to bet.

The big question is whether Biden can win the Democrat nomination.

Also, if I had to bet straight up I'd bet Sanders would beat Trump as well. And I'd say ANY Democrat that gets nominated has at least a 50:50 shot. The majority of voters are in an "anybody but Trump" mode right now.
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Re: Rural Americans would be serfs if we abolished the Electoral College

Postby Chizzang » Sun Jun 16, 2019 5:14 pm

CID1990 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Trump could personally burn U.S. farmers crops to the ground
Grab their daughters pussies and offer their wives money to **** on the side
and Trump wouldn't lose a single vote

:nod:

You underestimate the vast stupidity of tribalism
Trump speaks to them - then funcks them over - them tells them it's Obama and the Liberals

He's not going anywhere - the man is beloved by the very same people he's gashing
meanwhile \ Simultaneously
Trumps got the upper middle class Americans working overtime for him on his
"Shame the poor/ Blame the poor" movement...

:lol:

Trump in a cake walk 2020


That’s a bunch of elegant word salad but you’re still ripping off Hillary Clinton - who more succinctly paraphrased it by just calling them a basket of deplorables

But you both miss the mark (wildly)

It wasn’t Trump’s tribe that got him elected. It was ultimately voters who previously cast votes for Barack Obama who swung things for Trump

If it had just been the tribal (deplorable) voters, we’d be calling Hillary President right now

:nod:

I don’t *think* Trump is going to gather as many of those votes this time



I'm talking about today not three years ago...

:nod:

and I don't care who says they aren't voting for Trump
I call bullsh!t on the polls and I think he wins easy with "nobody" voting for him
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Re: Rural Americans would be serfs if we abolished the Electoral College

Postby kalm » Sun Jun 16, 2019 5:45 pm

Col Hogan wrote:
kalm wrote:
Cynics are altruistic by nature. :nod:

Btw, Trump trails Biden by 10 and Bernie by 9 in the latest Fox News poll. He trails Biden by 11 in Michigan. Quit trolling the poor conks. :ohno:


Are you willing to wager on the outcome next November, based on these numbers???

I wouldn’t, and I doubt you would either...

Polls right now are not worth the bits they are transmitted on...

If he’s trolling someone successfully...they deserve it...

:coffee:


No. I'll make my call when the time is right...like I did in 2016 when I predicted a Trump victory in July. :coffee:

Question: Do you think Trump is going to become more likeable between now and November 2020? Otherwise, the Dems only lose this if they nominate someone equally as unlikeable.

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Re: Rural Americans would be serfs if we abolished the Electoral College

Postby css75 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 5:50 pm

kalm wrote:
Col Hogan wrote:
Are you willing to wager on the outcome next November, based on these numbers???

I wouldn’t, and I doubt you would either...

Polls right now are not worth the bits they are transmitted on...

If he’s trolling someone successfully...they deserve it...

:coffee:


No. I'll make my call when the time is right...like I did in 2016 when I predicted a Trump victory in July. :coffee:

Question: Do you think Trump is going to become more likeable between now and November 2020? Otherwise, the Dems only lose this if they nominate someone equally as unlikeable.

:coffee:


Which I have 100% confidence in the Dems doing so.


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Re: Rural Americans would be serfs if we abolished the Electoral College

Postby kalm » Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:16 pm

css75 wrote:
kalm wrote:
No. I'll make my call when the time is right...like I did in 2016 when I predicted a Trump victory in July. :coffee:

Question: Do you think Trump is going to become more likeable between now and November 2020? Otherwise, the Dems only lose this if they nominate someone equally as unlikeable.

:coffee:


Which I have 100% confidence in the Dems doing so.


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You could be right. If it's Harris, Booker, or some other sleazy establishment politician, they might be in trouble. I think Biden is charismatic enough to beat Trump unless the progressives completely revolt. Biden isn't going to change much from what Trump has done and he's not a complete asshole.
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Postby WWII » Sun Jun 16, 2019 7:38 pm

The now Democrat-controlled House of Representatives introduced a bill to eliminate the Electoral College. Since they didn't win the last presidential election under the rules that have existed for almost 250 years, they now want to change the rules. Below is the explanation of why this is a very, very bad idea.

In an infinite wisdom, the founders created the Electoral College to ensure all of the States were fairly represented. One or two densely populated one-party regions must not speak for the whole nation.

The following should finally put an end to the argument as to why the Electoral College is vital. Share this. It needs to be widely understood.

There are 3,141 counties in the United States.

- Trump won 3,084 of them.

- Clinton won only 57.

There are 62 counties in New York State.

- Trump won 46 of them.

- Clinton won only 16

Clinton won the national popular vote.

In the five counties that encompass New York City (Bronx, Brooklyn, Manhattan, Richmond and Queens), Clinton received 2 million more votes than Trump. (Clinton only won four of these counties; Trump won Richmond County [Staten Island].)

Therefore just four counties of New York City alone, accounted for Clinton winning the popular vote of the entire country.

The five counties total only 319 square miles.

The United States is comprised of 3,797,000 square miles.

When a country that consists of almost four million square miles of territory, it would be dangerous and ludicrous to even suggest that the vote of those who inhabit a mere 319 square miles in a big city should always dictate the outcome of national elections.

Large, densely populated, Democrat cities (NYC, Chicago, LA, etc.) DO NOT and SHOULD NOT speak for all of the United States.

And It's well documented that those 319 square miles are where the so many of our nation's problems foment.

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Postby Ivytalk » Sun Jun 16, 2019 7:46 pm

kalm wrote:
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Which I have 100% confidence in the Dems doing so.


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You could be right. If it's Harris, Booker, or some other sleazy establishment politician, they might be in trouble. I think Biden is charismatic enough to beat Trump unless the progressives completely revolt. Biden isn't going to change much from what Trump has done and he's not a complete asshole.


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Re: Rural Americans would be serfs if we abolished the Electoral College

Postby kalm » Sun Jun 16, 2019 7:54 pm

WWII wrote:The now Democrat-controlled House of Representatives introduced a bill to eliminate the Electoral College. Since they didn't win the last presidential election under the rules that have existed for almost 250 years, they now want to change the rules. Below is the explanation of why this is a very, very bad idea.

In an infinite wisdom, the founders created the Electoral College to ensure all of the States were fairly represented. One or two densely populated one-party regions must not speak for the whole nation.

The following should finally put an end to the argument as to why the Electoral College is vital. Share this. It needs to be widely understood.

There are 3,141 counties in the United States.

- Trump won 3,084 of them.

- Clinton won only 57.

There are 62 counties in New York State.

- Trump won 46 of them.

- Clinton won only 16

Clinton won the national popular vote.

In the five counties that encompass New York City (Bronx, Brooklyn, Manhattan, Richmond and Queens), Clinton received 2 million more votes than Trump. (Clinton only won four of these counties; Trump won Richmond County [Staten Island].)

Therefore just four counties of New York City alone, accounted for Clinton winning the popular vote of the entire country.

The five counties total only 319 square miles.

The United States is comprised of 3,797,000 square miles.

When a country that consists of almost four million square miles of territory, it would be dangerous and ludicrous to even suggest that the vote of those who inhabit a mere 319 square miles in a big city should always dictate the outcome of national elections.

Large, densely populated, Democrat cities (NYC, Chicago, LA, etc.) DO NOT and SHOULD NOT speak for all of the United States.

And It's well documented that those 319 square miles are where the so many of our nation's problems foment.


Why is acreage so damn important?
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Re: Rural Americans would be serfs if we abolished the Electoral College

Postby CID1990 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:00 pm

Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
That’s a bunch of elegant word salad but you’re still ripping off Hillary Clinton - who more succinctly paraphrased it by just calling them a basket of deplorables

But you both miss the mark (wildly)

It wasn’t Trump’s tribe that got him elected. It was ultimately voters who previously cast votes for Barack Obama who swung things for Trump

If it had just been the tribal (deplorable) voters, we’d be calling Hillary President right now

:nod:

I don’t *think* Trump is going to gather as many of those votes this time



I'm talking about today not three years ago...

:nod:

and I don't care who says they aren't voting for Trump
I call bullsh!t on the polls and I think he wins easy with "nobody" voting for him


So those independent voters who say they don’t vote for Trump ..... who do they hate again?

blacks
browns
jews
immigrants
the poor

I thought it was just Trump’s tribe that hate them... who knew all those independents were so full of hate for everybody


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Re: Rural Americans would be serfs if we abolished the Electoral College

Postby Chizzang » Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:14 pm

CID1990 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
I'm talking about today not three years ago...

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and I don't care who says they aren't voting for Trump
I call bullsh!t on the polls and I think he wins easy with "nobody" voting for him


So those independent voters who say they don’t vote for Trump ..... who do they hate again?

blacks
browns
jews
immigrants
the poor

I thought it was just Trump’s tribe that hate them... who knew all those independents were so full of hate for everybody



Just exactly how many truly "independents" do you think there are..?
I know the number is getting smaller every year
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