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Chizzang wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
Well, considering I was actually in NYC during a lot of those protests in the run-up to the Iraq War and actually saw and heard the protestors and the signs they held, I'm going to go with my own personal experience over the wisdom of a guy who was hanging out in southern Illinois at the time. Looking back surely people see Bush as more the dunce now and Cheney as the evil puppeteer, but at the time people were putting those little moustaches on Bush's image.

Probably because Bush declared war on "Terrorism"
and then went to war with a completely unrelated 3rd party

it was a little too "sudetenland" esque of a move...
Look over there "terrorism" while I move troops over here
Removing all doubt that he was Dick Cheney's puppet

:geek:

He then secured congressional support in the exact same way dictators muster support
"If you don't show your patriotism by voting for war, you are a terrorist at heart"

:nod:

and it worked like it has for centuries
Yeah. What he said. :coffee:
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houndawg wrote:
Chizzang wrote:

Probably because Bush declared war on "Terrorism"
and then went to war with a completely unrelated 3rd party

it was a little too "sudetenland" esque of a move...
Look over there "terrorism" while I move troops over here
Removing all doubt that he was Dick Cheney's puppet

:geek:

He then secured congressional support in the exact same way dictators muster support
"If you don't show your patriotism by voting for war, you are a terrorist at heart"

:nod:

and it worked like it has for centuries
Yeah. What he said. :coffee:
So basically you're both admitting that people were equating Bush to Hitler way back in 2002ish timeframe. Wasn't that what this was about, me saying people thought Bush was Hitler and you guys saying, "nah, Cheney was Hitler, Bush was just a country bumpkin"? Do I need to thank you for helping me prove you wrong? :rofl:
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GannonFan wrote:
houndawg wrote:
Yeah. What he said. :coffee:
So basically you're both admitting that people were equating Bush to Hitler way back in 2002ish timeframe. Wasn't that what this was about, me saying people thought Bush was Hitler and you guys saying, "nah, Cheney was Hitler, Bush was just a country bumpkin"? Do I need to thank you for helping me prove you wrong? :rofl:
I'm not trying to prove anything...
and I don't really care

But if it works to make your point stronger thats good too
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GannonFan wrote:
houndawg wrote:
Yeah. What he said. :coffee:
So basically you're both admitting that people were equating Bush to Hitler way back in 2002ish timeframe. Wasn't that what this was about, me saying people thought Bush was Hitler and you guys saying, "nah, Cheney was Hitler, Bush was just a country bumpkin"? Do I need to thank you for helping me prove you wrong? :rofl:
By that comparison, it shows that moronic ideas have been around awhile,


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css75 wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
So basically you're both admitting that people were equating Bush to Hitler way back in 2002ish timeframe. Wasn't that what this was about, me saying people thought Bush was Hitler and you guys saying, "nah, Cheney was Hitler, Bush was just a country bumpkin"? Do I need to thank you for helping me prove you wrong? :rofl:
By that comparison, it shows that moronic ideas have been around awhile,
I'll type slower...
Bush was equated to Hitler because he declared war on a completely irrelevant 3rd party known as Iraq

the end...
if you can logically explain why we went to war with Iraq... you win
otherwise the Sudatenland comparison stands

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Chizzang wrote:
css75 wrote:
By that comparison, it shows that moronic ideas have been around awhile,
I'll type slower...
Bush was equated to Hitler because he declared war on a completely irrelevant 3rd party known as Iraq

the end...
if you can logically explain why we went to war with Iraq... you win
otherwise the Sudatenland comparison stands

:geek:
WMD, bro, WMD....
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Re: Rural Americans would be serfs if we abolished the Electoral College

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AZGrizFan wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
I'll type slower...
Bush was equated to Hitler because he declared war on a completely irrelevant 3rd party known as Iraq

the end...
if you can logically explain why we went to war with Iraq... you win
otherwise the Sudatenland comparison stands

:geek:
WMD, bro, WMD....
Ghosts...
equally substantial
but yeah... I get it
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Chizzang wrote:
css75 wrote:
By that comparison, it shows that moronic ideas have been around awhile,
I'll type slower...
Bush was equated to Hitler because he declared war on a completely irrelevant 3rd party known as Iraq

the end...
if you can logically explain why we went to war with Iraq... you win
otherwise the Sudatenland comparison stands

:geek:
*Sudetenland

It would be a good comparison if our stated intention was to keep Iraq forever after annexing it to protect Americans living there.

But it is a bad comparison if you inject facts into it


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Chizzang wrote:
css75 wrote:
By that comparison, it shows that moronic ideas have been around awhile,
I'll type slower...
Bush was equated to Hitler because he declared war on a completely irrelevant 3rd party known as Iraq

the end...
if you can logically explain why we went to war with Iraq... you win
otherwise the Sudatenland comparison stands

:geek:
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Ibanez wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
I'll type slower...
Bush was equated to Hitler because he declared war on a completely irrelevant 3rd party known as Iraq

the end...
if you can logically explain why we went to war with Iraq... you win
otherwise the Sudatenland comparison stands

:geek:
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That’s some truth and a little hyperbole

But its a lot closer than the invasion of Iraq and the annexation of the Sudetenland are parallel worthy of comparison

last time I checked, it was never claimed that Iraq should become the 51st state


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CID1990 wrote:
Ibanez wrote: WMD - we had the receipts!
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That’s some truth and a little hyperbole

But its a lot closer than the invasion of Iraq and the annexation of the Sudetenland are parallel worthy of comparison

last time I checked, it was never claimed that Iraq should become the 51st state


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Ivytalk wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
That’s some truth and a little hyperbole

But its a lot closer than the invasion of Iraq and the annexation of the Sudetenland are parallel worthy of comparison

last time I checked, it was never claimed that Iraq should become the 51st state


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Ivytalk wrote: Ve haff special on “lebensraum” today.
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CID1990 wrote:
Ibanez wrote: WMD - we had the receipts!
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That’s some truth and a little hyperbole

But its a lot closer than the invasion of Iraq and the annexation of the Sudetenland are parallel worthy of comparison

last time I checked, it was never claimed that Iraq should become the 51st state


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A lot of hyperbole. :coffee:

And yes, the Sudetenland was a bad analogy.

If he was going for a 3rd party analogy, it'd be like how many American's felt in 1941.

"Wait, the Japanese attacked us, why are we fighting Germany?" :suspicious:
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Ibanez wrote: Jawhol. You're Goering to love it.
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You don’t have to Jodl from the mountaintop, Ribbentrop


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CID1990 wrote:You don’t have to Jodl from the mountaintop, Ribbentrop


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Ibanez wrote:
CID1990 wrote:You don’t have to Jodl from the mountaintop, Ribbentrop


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CID1990 wrote:
Ibanez wrote:
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Don’t be a queer, Albert Speer


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Well this has been a gas...
If you can’t stand the heat...

get out of the oven


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CID1990 wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Well this has been a gas...
If you can’t stand the heat...

get out of the oven


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Ibanez wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
That’s some truth and a little hyperbole

But its a lot closer than the invasion of Iraq and the annexation of the Sudetenland are parallel worthy of comparison

last time I checked, it was never claimed that Iraq should become the 51st state


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A lot of hyperbole. :coffee:

And yes, the Sudetenland was a bad analogy.

If he was going for a 3rd party analogy, it'd be like how many American's felt in 1941.

"Wait, the Japanese attacked us, why are we fighting Germany?" :suspicious:
Indeed. But it's not Chizz's fault, I blame his education for giving him just a little bit of history knowledge to know something but not enough to be able to craft a better analogy.
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GannonFan wrote:
Ibanez wrote: A lot of hyperbole. :coffee:

And yes, the Sudetenland was a bad analogy.

If he was going for a 3rd party analogy, it'd be like how many American's felt in 1941.

"Wait, the Japanese attacked us, why are we fighting Germany?" :suspicious:
Indeed. But it's not Chizz's fault, I blame his education for giving him just a little bit of history knowledge to know something but not enough to be able to craft a better analogy.
He's just looking Fuhrer a good time.
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Ibanez wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
I'll type slower...
Bush was equated to Hitler because he declared war on a completely irrelevant 3rd party known as Iraq

the end...
if you can logically explain why we went to war with Iraq... you win
otherwise the Sudatenland comparison stands

:geek:
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So what was the final history on Saddam?

He had some WMDs, but in very small amounts and mostly just talked a big game?
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