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Re: The Iran War

Postby CID1990 » Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:08 pm

As I’ve said before... many times..

This is why you make treaties

The Iran “deal” gave away the farm for an ostensible short delay to uranium enrichment. It was meaningless, unenforceable, and gave an immediate financial shot in the arm to a worldwide recognized state sponsor of Islamic terrorism.

The formulation of the Iran deal was a failure of foreign policy, not a triumph. We were right to withdraw from it, because it encourages other bad actors to pursue “deals” instead of treaties (the way it is meant to be done)


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Re: The Iran War

Postby Ivytalk » Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:16 pm

CID1990 wrote:As I’ve said before... many times..


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Re: The Iran War

Postby CID1990 » Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:17 pm

This is the right approach - let Iran do Iran ....

https://www.bloombergquint.com/business ... ng-already


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Re: The Iran War

Postby SeattleGriz » Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:34 pm

Amazing how little reply there is. We usually have lots of discussion.

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Re: The Iran War

Postby Chizzang » Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:19 pm

CID1990 wrote:This is the right approach - let Iran do Iran ....

https://www.bloombergquint.com/business ... ng-already



I don't disagree with anything in that article...

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Re: The Iran War

Postby Ivytalk » Sun Jun 23, 2019 3:20 am

Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:This is the right approach - let Iran do Iran ....

https://www.bloombergquint.com/business ... ng-already



I don't disagree with anything in that article...

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Re: The Iran War

Postby kalm » Sun Jun 23, 2019 5:49 am

SeattleGriz wrote:Amazing how little reply there is. We usually have lots of discussion.

Hmm


I have a huge problem with it. I couldn’t even read one full paragraph before it hit a paywall and then it wouldn’t return to cs when I hit back. Fuck that noise. They’re wrong!
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Re: The Iran War

Postby CID1990 » Sun Jun 23, 2019 6:42 am

kalm wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:Amazing how little reply there is. We usually have lots of discussion.

Hmm


I have a huge problem with it. I couldn’t even read one full paragraph before it hit a paywall and then it wouldn’t return to cs when I hit back. **** that noise. They’re wrong!


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Re: The Iran War

Postby CID1990 » Sun Jun 23, 2019 6:03 pm

One thing is for sure

Seems like the Iranians still have zero respect for John Kerry

him asking them to wait out Trump and all


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Re: The Iran War

Postby andy7171 » Mon Jun 24, 2019 5:01 am

I heard an interesting idea on the radio during my travels back and forth from Home Depot this weekend.

We don't really "need" middle east oil anymore. Pull out completely and let China be the peacekeepers and keep the strait open for business.

We'd be out of that nonsense and the middle east would realize how much easier it was to deal with us over China.
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Re: The Iran War

Postby CID1990 » Mon Jun 24, 2019 7:36 am

andy7171 wrote:I heard an interesting idea on the radio during my travels back and forth from Home Depot this weekend.

We don't really "need" middle east oil anymore. Pull out completely and let China be the peacekeepers and keep the strait open for business.

We'd be out of that nonsense and the middle east would realize how much easier it was to deal with us over China.


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Re: The Iran War

Postby UNI88 » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:27 am

CID1990 wrote:
andy7171 wrote:I heard an interesting idea on the radio during my travels back and forth from Home Depot this weekend.

We don't really "need" middle east oil anymore. Pull out completely and let China be the peacekeepers and keep the strait open for business.

We'd be out of that nonsense and the middle east would realize how much easier it was to deal with us over China.


That is coming to a theater near you

VERY soon


Are we really easier to deal with then China? Especially in the short-term? China wants mineral rights, access to markets, etc. and doesn't worry about human rights or conflicts. The true bill for dealing with China won't come due for a while and I'm guessing plenty of rulers would be willing to kick that can down the road.

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Re: The Iran War

Postby Chizzang » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:39 am

UNI88 wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
That is coming to a theater near you

VERY soon


Are we really easier to deal with then China? Especially in the short-term? China wants mineral rights, access to markets, etc. and doesn't worry about human rights or conflicts. The true bill for dealing with China won't come due for a while and I'm guessing plenty of rulers would be willing to kick that can down the road.


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Re: The Iran War

Postby CID1990 » Mon Jun 24, 2019 3:50 pm

UNI88 wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
That is coming to a theater near you

VERY soon


Are we really easier to deal with then China? Especially in the short-term? China wants mineral rights, access to markets, etc. and doesn't worry about human rights or conflicts. The true bill for dealing with China won't come due for a while and I'm guessing plenty of rulers would be willing to kick that can down the road.


If you are a corruptocrat Middle Eastern country and your only exports are oil, people, and terrorism (that’s just about all of them), then yes - China is much easier to deal with than we are

And many African nations will tell you that the Chinese don’t leverage all those new railroads for human rights


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