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Re: Educationism

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:37 pm
by AZGrizFan
Chizzang wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
I'm not suggesting we are. Just commenting on the article, jagoff. :roll: :roll:


BTW the 22,000 sq ft house dude north of San Antonio qualifies...

:lol:

but it's neat-o how you did what I said in my example above on steps 2) and 3)


I never did #2 (reading is fundamental) and I AM the top, so how could I do #3? :suspicious: :suspicious:

Re: Educationism

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:47 pm
by kalm
89Hen wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Well I call bullsh!t on your bullsh!t

:lol:

You don't think there are plenty in the wealth redistribution crowd that don't want to raise taxes on families making over $200-250K? That aint even close to "rich" around here.


Yes there are.

Btw, wealth redistribution is a two way street and socialism perfectly acceptable if it benefits a certain group.

Re: Educationism

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:06 pm
by 89Hen
kalm wrote:Btw, wealth redistribution is a two way street and socialism perfectly acceptable if it benefits a certain group.

Come again?

Re: Educationism

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:31 pm
by SDHornet
:lol: @ the coffeehouse socialists in this thread.

Re: Educationism

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:52 pm
by JohnStOnge
Chizzang wrote:Image


That gets at something I've written about before; though I've focused on income rather than wealth. By any reasonable definition of what the "middle class" is the middle class is better off now than it was back in what people think of as the golden days of the middle class.

In 1963 the wealth level at the 50th percentile (the middle) was $41,028 (in 2016 dollars). In 2016 it was $97,300. 2.4 times as high.

So by what calculus do we say those at the "middle" were worse off in 2016 than they were in 1963 when they had almost 2 1/2 times the wealth in 2016 in inflation adjusted terms than they had in 1963? It's ridiculous.

This thing of focusing on the "gap" is ridiculous.

Re: Educationism

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:07 pm
by Chizzang
89Hen wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Well I call bullsh!t on your bullsh!t

:lol:

You don't think there are plenty in the wealth redistribution crowd that don't want to raise taxes on families making over $200-250K? That aint even close to "rich" around here.


no I don't think families making $250k are in danger of some crazy tax scheme

:lol:

The upper middle class is safe

Re: Educationism

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:43 pm
by kalm
SDHornet wrote::lol: @ the coffeehouse socialists in this thread.


:lol: @ the faux industrialists kicking the step ladder down behind them.

:lol:

Re: Educationism

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 6:35 pm
by Chizzang
kalm wrote:
SDHornet wrote::lol: @ the coffeehouse socialists in this thread.


:lol: @ the faux industrialists kicking the step ladder down behind them.

:lol:


As previously noted...
The assigned job of the middle class in America is to passionately defend the elite wealthy
Whilst simultaneously hating the poor

:nod:

and they do it as instructed
this thread / exhibit A

Re: Educationism

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 6:39 pm
by Chizzang
JohnStOnge wrote:
Chizzang wrote:Image


That gets at something I've written about before; though I've focused on income rather than wealth. By any reasonable definition of what the "middle class" is the middle class is better off now than it was back in what people think of as the golden days of the middle class.

In 1963 the wealth level at the 50th percentile (the middle) was $41,028 (in 2016 dollars). In 2016 it was $97,300. 2.4 times as high.

So by what calculus do we say those at the "middle" were worse off in 2016 than they were in 1963 when they had almost 2 1/2 times the wealth in 2016 in inflation adjusted terms than they had in 1963? It's ridiculous.

This thing of focusing on the "gap" is ridiculous.


The gap is used in my example to show you who the wealth distribution clowns are going after
Nobody in their right mind would go after middle and upper middle class with new higher tax rates

The target is pretty clearly defined as uber-wealthy and certainly not $250K
christ you can't even buy a house in Seattle on that family income

:rofl:

Re: Educationism

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:37 pm
by SDHornet
kalm wrote:
SDHornet wrote::lol: @ the coffeehouse socialists in this thread.


:lol: @ the faux industrialists kicking the step ladder down behind them.

:lol:

How so?

Re: Educationism

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:07 pm
by AZGrizFan
Chizzang wrote:
kalm wrote:
:lol: @ the faux industrialists kicking the step ladder down behind them.

:lol:


As previously noted...
The assigned job of the middle class in America is to passionately defend the elite wealthy
Whilst simultaneously hating the poor

:nod:

and they do it as instructed
this thread / exhibit A


You got a strange view of life, son. :suspicious: :suspicious:

Re: Educationism

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:13 pm
by Chizzang
AZGrizFan wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
As previously noted...
The assigned job of the middle class in America is to passionately defend the elite wealthy
Whilst simultaneously hating the poor

:nod:

and they do it as instructed
this thread / exhibit A


You got a strange view of life, son. :suspicious: :suspicious:


I try to be neutral in regards to the elite wealthy and the down trodden and destitute

I don't really know what the answer is
but I'm pretty sure 400 guys owning 65% of all U.S. wealth
probably doesn't make America a better place

and they don't need me defending them

Re: Educationism

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:30 am
by AZGrizFan
Chizzang wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
You got a strange view of life, son. :suspicious: :suspicious:


I try to be neutral in regards to the elite wealthy and the down trodden and destitute

I don't really know what the answer is
but I'm pretty sure 400 guys owning 65% of all U.S. wealth
probably doesn't make America a better place

and they don't need me defending them


If you're gonna be poor and downtrodden, it's good to be poor in America. :coffee: :coffee:

Re: Educationism

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:44 am
by 89Hen
Chizzang wrote:
89Hen wrote:You don't think there are plenty in the wealth redistribution crowd that don't want to raise taxes on families making over $200-250K? That aint even close to "rich" around here.


no I don't think families making $250k are in danger of some crazy tax scheme

:lol:

The upper middle class is safe

:suspicious: I guess you're not listening.

Re: Educationism

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:47 am
by AZGrizFan
89Hen wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
no I don't think families making $250k are in danger of some crazy tax scheme

:lol:

The upper middle class is safe

:suspicious: I guess you're not listening.


When has he ever? He's got his own, strange view of the world and lives in a bubble known as Seattle. It's a giant echo chamber...

Re: Educationism

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:27 am
by Chizzang
AZGrizFan wrote:
89Hen wrote: :suspicious: I guess you're not listening.


When has he ever? He's got his own, strange view of the world and lives in a bubble known as Seattle. It's a giant echo chamber...



:lol:

I might be moving to Minneapolis... :shock:
BTW: Home prices in Minn are so low me and the GF are stunned

Re: Educationism

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:29 am
by Chizzang
AZGrizFan wrote:
If you're gonna be poor and downtrodden, it's good to be poor in America. :coffee: :coffee:


I completely agree...
We actually have a large percentage of over weight poor people in this country
which is something you really don't see much of elsewhere

:nod:

Re: Educationism

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:34 am
by HI54UNI
Chizzang wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
When has he ever? He's got his own, strange view of the world and lives in a bubble known as Seattle. It's a giant echo chamber...



:lol:

I might be moving to Minneapolis... :shock:
BTW: Home prices in Minn are so low me and the GF are stunned


You'll have to spend the savings on heat and winter clothes.

Re: Educationism

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:40 am
by HI54UNI
Chizzang wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
If you're gonna be poor and downtrodden, it's good to be poor in America. :coffee: :coffee:


I completely agree...
We actually have a large percentage of over weight poor people in this country
which is something you really don't see much of elsewhere

:nod:


I remember reading an article many years ago about immigrants and one interviewed was from Africa. He said that growing up he some missionaries were using magazines to teach English. There was an article about in one magazine about America's poor. He said I knew then I wanted to move to America because we were starving and all the poor people in America were fat. He wanted to live where poor people could be fat.

Re: Educationism

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:45 am
by Chizzang
HI54UNI wrote:
Chizzang wrote:

:lol:

I might be moving to Minneapolis... :shock:
BTW: Home prices in Minn are so low me and the GF are stunned


You'll have to spend the savings on heat and winter clothes.


Well... probably not
There's a condo in midtown Minneapolis that's 2300 sq ft absolutely glorious and it's $750K
That would be $1.5M in Seattle

:nod:

the building has a gym on the 5th floor
Coffee shop at street level
grocery store 2 blocks away
incredible !!!

Re: Educationism

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:17 am
by AZGrizFan
Chizzang wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
When has he ever? He's got his own, strange view of the world and lives in a bubble known as Seattle. It's a giant echo chamber...



:lol:

I might be moving to Minneapolis... :shock:
BTW: Home prices in Minn are so low me and the GF are stunned


Ahhh...Minneapolis. The most segregated city in America. :coffee: :coffee:

Interesting choice for someone so enlightened.

Re: Educationism

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:26 am
by Chizzang
AZGrizFan wrote:
Chizzang wrote:

:lol:

I might be moving to Minneapolis... :shock:
BTW: Home prices in Minn are so low me and the GF are stunned


Ahhh...Minneapolis. The most segregated city in America. :coffee: :coffee:

Interesting choice for someone so enlightened.


:geek:

It's the GF
She got offered some fancy pants directors position - I can live anywhere as long as it has a major airport
and no black people

Re: Educationism

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:39 am
by CAA Flagship
Chizzang wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Ahhh...Minneapolis. The most segregated city in America. :coffee: :coffee:

Interesting choice for someone so enlightened.


:geek:

It's the GF
She got offered some fancy pants directors position - I can live anywhere as long as it has a major airport
and no black people

Any man that would move from their desired location, to a less desirable location, because of their female partner's job is............umm...............uhh..............hmmmm.............nevermind. :oops:

Re: Educationism

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:46 am
by GannonFan
CAA Flagship wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
:geek:

It's the GF
She got offered some fancy pants directors position - I can live anywhere as long as it has a major airport
and no black people

Any man that would move from their desired location, to a less desirable location, because of their female partner's job is............umm...............uhh..............hmmmm.............nevermind. :oops:


I wouldn't knock it - nothing wrong with having a sugarmomma. :thumb:

Re: Educationism

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:49 am
by AZGrizFan
CAA Flagship wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
:geek:

It's the GF
She got offered some fancy pants directors position - I can live anywhere as long as it has a major airport
and no black people

Any man that would move from their desired location, to a less desirable location, because of their female partner's job is............umm...............uhh..............hmmmm.............nevermind. :oops:

;) :lol: :lol: :lol: