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Re: Trump to End Birthright Citizenship

Postby mainejeff2 » Fri Aug 23, 2019 4:02 pm

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It is NOT a living document according to Conservatives!


Sure it is - the ability to change it is specifically built into it

Re-interpreting it from the bench is what actual conservatives have a problem with. Follow the rules.


We will if your dear leader does.

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Re: Trump to End Birthright Citizenship

Postby mainejeff2 » Fri Aug 23, 2019 4:03 pm

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So are #Deplorables.....fiercely patriotic to Donald J. Trump that is. :roll:


You are irrelevant

Keep on minimizing China

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I am irrelevant? Oh no....what shall I do? I am irrelevant on the Conk Man Baby Board (CMBB).

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Re: Trump to End Birthright Citizenship

Postby mainejeff2 » Fri Aug 23, 2019 4:04 pm

CitadelGrad wrote:
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It is NOT a living document according to Conservatives!


Sailed right over your head.


*YAWN*

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Re: Trump to End Birthright Citizenship

Postby mainejeff2 » Fri Aug 23, 2019 4:05 pm

Ivytalk wrote:
css75 wrote:Birthright citizenship has never been challenged in court. We are the only country that does this nonsense, glad to see he is taking this on. He has a good chance to win in court.


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No, he doesn’t. The 14th Amendment is clear. But since no Consitutional Amendment of any kind is likely to ever happen again, we’re stuck.


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Re: Trump to End Birthright Citizenship

Postby Ivytalk » Fri Aug 23, 2019 4:06 pm

mainejeff2 wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:No, he doesn’t. The 14th Amendment is clear. But since no Consitutional Amendment of any kind is likely to ever happen again, we’re stuck.


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Re: Trump to End Birthright Citizenship

Postby mainejeff2 » Fri Aug 23, 2019 4:09 pm

Ivytalk wrote:
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The American Bible is untouchable!

Gawd, you’re still awake? Go euthanize yourself. :coffee:


You first. Go.

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Re: RE: Re: Trump to End Birthright Citizenship

Postby SeattleGriz » Fri Aug 23, 2019 5:00 pm

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CID1990 wrote:
They are fiercely patriotic


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Fierce to a fault...
Well then we need to bust out our exaggeration weapon and destroy them all!
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Re: Trump to End Birthright Citizenship

Postby Chizzang » Fri Aug 23, 2019 5:33 pm

Ivytalk wrote:
css75 wrote:Birthright citizenship has never been challenged in court. We are the only country that does this nonsense, glad to see he is taking this on. He has a good chance to win in court.


No, he doesn’t. The 14th Amendment is clear. But since no Consitutional Amendment of any kind is likely to ever happen again, we’re stuck.


We are now a country with a complete lack of respect for Logic and Reason...

Bible thumping morons terrorizing one end of the spectrum
and Social Justice communists mind fucking the other end

with the middle terrified to lose support from the fringes that sway mind control

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Re: Trump to End Birthright Citizenship

Postby JohnStOnge » Fri Aug 23, 2019 5:48 pm

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We are now a country with a complete lack of respect for Logic and Reason...

Bible thumping morons terrorizing one end of the spectrum
and Social Justice communists mind fucking the other end


There is something to that. But at this moment in history the Bible thumping morons are the bigger threat. They proved that by rallying behind Trump. Trump getting elected is perhaps the most absurd thing that has happened to this country in my lifetime. And responsibility for it rests squarely on the shoulders of White Evangelical Christians who voted for him in a percentage higher than that they ever gave to any other Republican candidate even though he is a complete moral atrocity.

Those people need to be defeated. They need to be demoralized and eliminated as a factor in US politics. At this point in history it is priority 1. People like Franklin Graham, Jerry Falwell Junior, and Robert Jeffress are the enemy and they need to be identified as such.

We can deal with the Social Justice nuts later.
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Re: RE: Re: Trump to End Birthright Citizenship

Postby SeattleGriz » Fri Aug 23, 2019 5:55 pm

Chizzang wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:
No, he doesn’t. The 14th Amendment is clear. But since no Consitutional Amendment of any kind is likely to ever happen again, we’re stuck.


We are now a country with a complete lack of respect for Logic and Reason...

Bible thumping morons terrorizing one end of the spectrum
and Social Justice communists mind fucking the other end

with the middle terrified to lose support from the fringes that sway mind control

:shock:
C'mon people. He's trying hard to troll. Someone take the bait!
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Re: Trump to End Birthright Citizenship

Postby JohnStOnge » Fri Aug 23, 2019 5:55 pm

dbackjon wrote:
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Right on time!

I said actual conservatives, Reek.

In fact I said it with your stalking specifically in mind.


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So who is an actual conservative in Congress?


Justin Amash.
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Trump to End Birthright Citizenship

Postby css75 » Fri Aug 23, 2019 6:29 pm

Ivytalk wrote:
css75 wrote:Birthright citizenship has never been challenged in court. We are the only country that does this nonsense, glad to see he is taking this on. He has a good chance to win in court.


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No, he doesn’t. The 14th Amendment is clear. But since no Consitutional Amendment of any kind is likely to ever happen again, we’re stuck.


The people who wrote the 14th amendment clearly stated that the intent was not what is being abused, it was for the freed slaves. No, I will not provide a link, find one and learn.


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Re: Trump to End Birthright Citizenship

Postby mainejeff2 » Fri Aug 23, 2019 7:30 pm

JohnStOnge wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
We are now a country with a complete lack of respect for Logic and Reason...

Bible thumping morons terrorizing one end of the spectrum
and Social Justice communists mind fucking the other end


There is something to that. But at this moment in history the Bible thumping morons are the bigger threat. They proved that by rallying behind Trump. Trump getting elected is perhaps the most absurd thing that has happened to this country in my lifetime. And responsibility for it rests squarely on the shoulders of White Evangelical Christians who voted for him in a percentage higher than that they ever gave to any other Republican candidate even though he is a complete moral atrocity.

Those people need to be defeated. They need to be demoralized and eliminated as a factor in US politics. At this point in history it is priority 1. People like Franklin Graham, Jerry Falwell Junior, and Robert Jeffress are the enemy and they need to be identified as such.

We can deal with the Social Justice nuts later.


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Re: Trump to End Birthright Citizenship

Postby Ivytalk » Sat Aug 24, 2019 3:52 am

css75 wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:No, he doesn’t. The 14th Amendment is clear. But since no Consitutional Amendment of any kind is likely to ever happen again, we’re stuck.


The people who wrote the 14th amendment clearly stated that the intent was not what is being abused, it was for the freed slaves. No, I will not provide a link, find one and learn.


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Look, Myron, the text of the 14th Amendment is clear, and it begins with the word “all.” It doesn’t limit the field to former slaves, and it doesn’t even mention slaves. The fact that the 14th Amendment was one of the so-called “Civil War Amendments” doesn’t change that. The 13th abolished slavery, while the 15th confirmed voting rights.

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Re: RE: Trump to End Birthright Citizenship

Postby UNI88 » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:29 am

css75 wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:No, he doesn’t. The 14th Amendment is clear. But since no Consitutional Amendment of any kind is likely to ever happen again, we’re stuck.


The people who wrote the 14th amendment clearly stated that the intent was not what is being abused, it was for the freed slaves. No, I will not provide a link, find one and learn.


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Why is ok to use contact of the times when interpreting the 14th but not the 2nd?

As IT says, it's the language that matters.

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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Trump to End Birthright Citizenship

Postby UNI88 » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:30 am

SeattleGriz wrote:
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We are now a country with a complete lack of respect for Logic and Reason...

Bible thumping morons terrorizing one end of the spectrum
and Social Justice communists mind fucking the other end

with the middle terrified to lose support from the fringes that sway mind control

:shock:
C'mon people. He's trying hard to troll. Someone take the bait!
Why take the bait when I agree?

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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Trump to End Birthright Citizenship

Postby SeattleGriz » Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:42 pm

UNI88 wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:C'mon people. He's trying hard to troll. Someone take the bait!
Why take the bait when I agree?

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Terrorizing on one end and mind fucking on the other? Both groups notoriously under represented in actual statistics.

Total troll.
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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Trump to End Birthright Citizenship

Postby Chizzang » Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:05 pm

SeattleGriz wrote:
UNI88 wrote:Why take the bait when I agree?

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Terrorizing on one end and mind fucking on the other? Both groups notoriously under represented in actual statistics.

Total troll.


You never miss an opportunity to miss a point...
Yes indeed both groups are small hence I used the term "fringe"

But lets get to the point that you missed which I tried to spell out

We now live in a society where a few small groups of illogical unreasonable people
control the two major parties through fear of losing 10% of the vote
which would swing the entire election

and both of these insane illogical unreasonable groups LOVE IT
and America as well as the greater good suffers for it

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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Trump to End Birthright Citizenship

Postby SeattleGriz » Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:17 pm

Chizzang wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:Terrorizing on one end and mind fucking on the other? Both groups notoriously under represented in actual statistics.

Total troll.


You never miss an opportunity to miss a point...
Yes indeed both groups are small hence I used the term "fringe"

But lets get to the point that you missed which I tried to spell out

We now live in a society where a few small groups of illogical unreasonable people
control the two major parties through fear of losing 10% of the vote
which would swing the entire election

and both of these insane illogical unreasonable groups LOVE IT
and America as well as the greater good suffers for it

:nod:


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Re: Trump to End Birthright Citizenship

Postby JohnStOnge » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:09 pm

css75 wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:No, he doesn’t. The 14th Amendment is clear. But since no Consitutional Amendment of any kind is likely to ever happen again, we’re stuck.


The people who wrote the 14th amendment clearly stated that the intent was not what is being abused, it was for the freed slaves. No, I will not provide a link, find one and learn.


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Dude, if you're going to say something like that you need to be prepared to back it up. I don't even disagree with you with respect to what people were thinking when that language was crafted. But if you're going to say that people clearly stated something you need to provide documentation of that. You need to provide a reference showing that they clearly stated it.
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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Trump to End Birthright Citizenship

Postby JohnStOnge » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:11 pm

SeattleGriz wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
You never miss an opportunity to miss a point...
Yes indeed both groups are small hence I used the term "fringe"

But lets get to the point that you missed which I tried to spell out

We now live in a society where a few small groups of illogical unreasonable people
control the two major parties through fear of losing 10% of the vote
which would swing the entire election

and both of these insane illogical unreasonable groups LOVE IT
and America as well as the greater good suffers for it

:nod:


Trump ain't afraid of shit.


He was afraid to go to Vietnam.

And, right now, he's afraid of having the American People understand the truth. The truth is his enemy.
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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Trump to End Birthright Citizenship

Postby mainejeff2 » Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:51 am

SeattleGriz wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
You never miss an opportunity to miss a point...
Yes indeed both groups are small hence I used the term "fringe"

But lets get to the point that you missed which I tried to spell out

We now live in a society where a few small groups of illogical unreasonable people
control the two major parties through fear of losing 10% of the vote
which would swing the entire election

and both of these insane illogical unreasonable groups LOVE IT
and America as well as the greater good suffers for it

:nod:


Trump ain't afraid of shit.


He is afraid of losing the election, moron. :dunce:

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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Trump to End Birthright Citizenship

Postby SeattleGriz » Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:54 am

mainejeff2 wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:
Trump ain't afraid of shit.


He is afraid of losing the election, moron. :dunce:

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Not nearly as much as you are afraid he'll win, Spanky.
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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Trump to End Birthright Citizenship

Postby mainejeff2 » Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:58 am

SeattleGriz wrote:
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He is afraid of losing the election, moron. :dunce:

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Not nearly as much as you are afraid he'll win, Spanky.


I've already accepted the fact that he is going to win....moron. :thumb:

The Senate is in play through. :nod:

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Re: Trump to End Birthright Citizenship

Postby css75 » Sun Aug 25, 2019 9:15 am

mainejeff2 wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:Not nearly as much as you are afraid he'll win, Spanky.


I've already accepted the fact that he is going to win....moron. :thumb:

The Senate is in play through. :nod:


Not with the insanity the left is trying to push.


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