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Re: Trump Campaign Goes Full Racist

Postby kalm » Wed Aug 28, 2019 10:47 am

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css75 wrote:

I see you still buy the msm blather, Goebbels said tell a lie often enough and people will believe it is the truth.

What MSM blather? I don't even have cable.

I listen to Trump's live interviews and press conferences, I read his tweets and quotes, I watch his rallies.

I don't need anyone to tell me he's a racist. His stupidity is even more mind-boggling; has anyone listened to him speak? I can't believe people take him seriously and support it to the point he's POTUS.


Nah...he’s really just a misunderstood victim. :lol:
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Re: Trump Campaign Goes Full Racist

Postby ∞∞∞ » Wed Aug 28, 2019 11:56 am

kalm wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote:What MSM blather? I don't even have cable.

I listen to Trump's live interviews and press conferences, I read his tweets and quotes, I watch his rallies.

I don't need anyone to tell me he's a racist. His stupidity is even more mind-boggling; has anyone listened to him speak? I can't believe people take him seriously and support it to the point he's POTUS.


Nah...he’s really just a misunderstood victim. :lol:

The irony of css75's statement is that:

a. Bannon, Stone, and Miller have openly stated they sow misinformation to create chaos (some people like to see the world burn). Ailes even wrote 300+ pages in 1970 about the strategy called "A Plan For Putting the GOP on TV News." They've been OPEN about it and people still support the lies.

b. Goebbels never said that.

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Re: Trump Campaign Goes Full Racist

Postby 89Hen » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:20 pm

∞∞∞ wrote:Ailes even wrote 300+ pages in 1970 about the strategy called "A Plan For Putting the GOP on TV News." They've been OPEN about it and people still support the lies.

And the DNC? They haven't been open about it and people still support the lies? :lol:
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Re: Trump Campaign Goes Full Racist

Postby BDKJMU » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:40 pm

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Pwns wrote:I was told by Samantha Bee (who defends Rashida Tlaib's controversial comments) that "Coastal elites" and the mere mention of George Soros were antisemitic dog whistles.


Those "Coastal Elites" represent tens of millions of coastal residents. Fuck Trump.

What about the Heartland Elites (Oil & Ag) of Texas, Oklahoma and Central part of the country. Fuck Deplorables too! Hillary was right. :nod:

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No they don‘t. Wealthier living in the coastal areas maybe in the millions. Not 10s of millions.

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Re: Trump Campaign Goes Full Racist

Postby UNI88 » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:42 pm

∞∞∞ wrote:
UNI88 wrote:Racism is a two way street and there are those on the left who are racist/bigoted too. MJ is just as unashamedly bigoted about old white men as others are about people of color.

Ok, start a thread about it. I know it's a common tactic to change the topic or project the argument on something else, but this one is about Trump's racism. I know some will still support him despite it though.


I'm not a Trump supporter or apologist and I've already stated that I think he's is an arrogant sociopath more than he's a racist. I try to give him credit for what I think is good and call him out on what isn't.

Isn't it a little hypocritical to call out the other side for supporting someone you think is a racist but ignoring those on your side who are racist or bigoted?

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Re: Trump Campaign Goes Full Racist

Postby Chizzang » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:05 pm

UNI88 wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote:Ok, start a thread about it. I know it's a common tactic to change the topic or project the argument on something else, but this one is about Trump's racism. I know some will still support him despite it though.


I'm not a Trump supporter or apologist and I've already stated that I think he's is an arrogant sociopath more than he's a racist. I try to give him credit for what I think is good and call him out on what isn't.

Isn't it a little hypocritical to call out the other side for supporting someone you think is a racist but ignoring those on your side who are racist or bigoted?


I don't see racism in Trumps words or actions
I think he genuinely feels that everybody is beneath him regardless of race color or whatever

The one exception is his love affair with Dictators
He loves Dictators and the more brutal and murderous the more he loves them

Other that that exception he feels like we're all beneath him equally
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Re: Trump Campaign Goes Full Racist

Postby Ibanez » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:33 pm

css75 wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote:Ok, start a thread about it. I know it's a common tactic to change the topic or project the argument on something else, but this one is about Trump's racism. I know some will still support him despite it though.



I see you still buy the msm blather, Goebbels said tell a lie often enough and people will believe it is the truth.


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Re: Trump Campaign Goes Full Racist

Postby Ibanez » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:34 pm

UNI88 wrote:
93henfan wrote:Everyone on the planet is racist to a certain degree. It's simple human nature.

Granted, it doesn't justify stupid or destructive behavior


True. The degree varies by individual and it takes effort to overcome that nature.

∞∞∞ wrote:He's a racist; I don't know why people defend or explain away this s*hit.


Racism is a two way street and there are those on the left who are racist/bigoted too. MJ is just as unashamedly bigoted about old white men as others are about people of color.

Rather than focusing on one aspect of racism/bigotry, let's condemn them all.

Gold star for being right and objective at the same time.


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Re: Trump Campaign Goes Full Racist

Postby 89Hen » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:56 pm

Ibanez wrote:
css75 wrote:

I see you still buy the msm blather, Goebbels said tell a lie often enough and people will believe it is the truth.

Trump has mastered that

Only to a minority of people.
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Re: Trump Campaign Goes Full Racist

Postby GannonFan » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:58 pm

The problem with just blanketly calling Trump, or anyone, racist, is that it's a means to an end, that end being the elimination of debate and talking about that person or what that person is doing in the context of their job. Basically, "he's a racist, everyone who supports him is therefore racist by association, so nothing they say or do is of any value". It's a dead-end debate in that nothing gets debated. It's basically just one more example of the damage of the polarizing, all or nothing attitude of politics and political discussion in this country.

For me, I think Trump's abhorrent, I think he's reckless, and I would never vote for him. With that said, I'm not entirely opposed to his use of tariffs and brinkmanship with the Chinese regarding trade. I'm not opposed to being clear about our immigration laws, whatever we decide on, and enforcing them. Is he racist? He does racist things, but in the end it doesn't foreclose my ability to be in favor of or opposed to things he does. We need to stop being so absolutist to things that we close off the ability to discuss anything else.
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Re: Trump Campaign Goes Full Racist

Postby dbackjon » Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:02 pm

Pwns wrote:I was told by Samantha Bee (who defends Rashida Tlaib's controversial comments) that "Coastal elites" and the mere mention of George Soros were antisemitic dog whistles.

They pretty much are.

Given the past statements about Soros, that is for sure.
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Re: Trump Campaign Goes Full Racist

Postby dbackjon » Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:03 pm

GannonFan wrote:The problem with just blanketly calling Trump, or anyone, racist, is that it's a means to an end, that end being the elimination of debate and talking about that person or what that person is doing in the context of their job. Basically, "he's a racist, everyone who supports him is therefore racist by association, so nothing they say or do is of any value". It's a dead-end debate in that nothing gets debated. It's basically just one more example of the damage of the polarizing, all or nothing attitude of politics and political discussion in this country.

For me, I think Trump's abhorrent, I think he's reckless, and I would never vote for him. With that said, I'm not entirely opposed to his use of tariffs and brinkmanship with the Chinese regarding trade. I'm not opposed to being clear about our immigration laws, whatever we decide on, and enforcing them. Is he racist? He does racist things, but in the end it doesn't foreclose my ability to be in favor of or opposed to things he does. We need to stop being so absolutist to things that we close off the ability to discuss anything else.


Trump is a racist. There is no doubt in any rational mind that he is.

Stop excusing his racism.
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Re: Trump Campaign Goes Full Racist

Postby dbackjon » Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:03 pm

89Hen wrote:
Ibanez wrote:Trump has mastered that

Only to a minority of people.



30% of the American Public, and 95% of the GOP in Congress
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Re: Trump Campaign Goes Full Racist

Postby 89Hen » Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:26 pm

dbackjon wrote:Trump is a racist. There is no doubt in any liberal mind that he is.

Agreed
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Re: Trump Campaign Goes Full Racist

Postby 89Hen » Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:30 pm

dbackjon wrote:
89Hen wrote:Only to a minority of people.



30% of the American Public, and 95% of the GOP in Congress

:lol: Yeah, GOP's don't usually vote with a GOP POTUS and Dems don't usually vote with a Dem POTUS.

You are such a partisan hack, I can't believe you actually believe you are anything close to center. :lol:
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Re: Trump Campaign Goes Full Racist

Postby mainejeff2 » Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:55 pm

93henfan wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote:Trump's been full racist since he walked down the escalators, and probably before that.

People just don't want to admit they support a racist. Or they're completely ignorant to what racism is or are racist themselves.


And let's not pretend Obama wasn't racist as well. He was just a lot more polished.


Oh fuck....here comes the Obama BS. :roll:

Cue HILLARY!!!!

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Re: Trump Campaign Goes Full Racist

Postby CID1990 » Wed Aug 28, 2019 6:34 pm

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I’d say that’s creative reading on your part... except I’m pretty sure you didn’t really read it before posting.


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I did read it. I think that you are so blinded by loyalty to Trump that you refuse to acknowledge anything that reveals his racist tendencies. :thumb:


Accurate reading skills are inimical to loyalty to Trump, Jearf. I would think you of all people would know that.


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Re: Trump Campaign Goes Full Racist

Postby CID1990 » Wed Aug 28, 2019 6:39 pm

So Reek accurately shifted gears at the start of this thread and pointed out that Trump’s statement was hypocritical (coastal elites)

It was a rare moment of lucidity from ol Reek

And yet some of us are still clinging to it being a racist statement

This place is fvcking Animal Farm


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Re: Trump Campaign Goes Full Racist

Postby Pwns » Wed Aug 28, 2019 6:49 pm

Trump would never say anything with a brazen lack of self awareness. Gotta be racism.
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Re: Trump Campaign Goes Full Racist

Postby css75 » Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:06 pm

Trump is not racism, he just has an extremely high self esteem, and he likes to embellish that.


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Re: Trump Campaign Goes Full Racist

Postby kalm » Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:42 pm

Wait...are we still arguing whether Trump is a racist or not?

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Re: Trump Campaign Goes Full Racist

Postby ∞∞∞ » Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:08 pm

kalm wrote:Wait...are we still arguing whether Trump is a racist or not?

:lol:

It must take a lot of mental gymnastics to convince themselves they're not defending a racist.

When half the country thinks someone's a racist, they're probably a racist.

https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-de ... aseID=3636

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Re: Trump Campaign Goes Full Racist

Postby kalm » Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:30 pm

∞∞∞ wrote:
kalm wrote:Wait...are we still arguing whether Trump is a racist or not?

:lol:

It must take a lot of mental gymnastics to convince themselves they're not defending a racist.

When half the country thinks someone's a racist, they're probably a racist.

https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-de ... aseID=3636


I don’t care what half the country thinks and a tip of the hat to Ganny’s earlier post in that in many respects it’s a pointless exercise.

That said...he’s clearly still a racist. :lol:
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Re: RE: Re: Trump Campaign Goes Full Racist

Postby UNI88 » Wed Aug 28, 2019 10:21 pm

∞∞∞ wrote:
kalm wrote:Wait...are we still arguing whether Trump is a racist or not?


It must take a lot of mental gymnastics to convince themselves they're not defending a racist.

When half the country thinks someone's a racist, they're probably a racist.

https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-de ... aseID=3636
Am I defending Trump when I say he's an arrogant sociopath not a racist?

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Re: RE: Re: Trump Campaign Goes Full Racist

Postby AZGrizFan » Thu Aug 29, 2019 3:36 am

UNI88 wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote:It must take a lot of mental gymnastics to convince themselves they're not defending a racist.

When half the country thinks someone's a racist, they're probably a racist.

https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-de ... aseID=3636
Am I defending Trump when I say he's an arrogant sociopath not a racist?

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