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Of course this doesn't happen in Maine.

Gunman kills 3, wounds 4th in Maine before being shot dead by police link

What did millions of American's do that their right to own guns should be taken away, because 297 people act out their violence and kill 1219 people. Over 10,000 drunk driving deaths per year, and it's illegal to drive drunk and people still drive drunk and still kill people.

And of course China had another mass stabbing (8 dead) of school children over the weekend That's a pretty regular occurrence over there. The choice of weapon doesn't matter. Crazy people are everywhere.

We really need to ban crazy people.

93henfan wrote:And of course China had another mass stabbing (8 dead) of school children over the weekend That's a pretty regular occurrence over there. The choice of weapon doesn't matter. Crazy people are everywhere.

We really need to ban crazy people.

Apparently China has a mass shooting/stabbing problem when it comes to the start of the school year. This has been going on for several years now. I'm sure they blame it on the Uyghurs.

mainejeff2 wrote:The best you guys can do is some random Maine shooting back in 2017 and a Chinese stabbing?

More people in Bama need to arm themselves and shoot each other when threatened.

I'm sorry, have you even proffered a solution to all of this, other than wishing all the deplorables (and old people) to die? You seem very big on the vitriol but you come up pretty small when it comes to solutions. We're all ears, share your wisdom on what will make everything better.

GannonFan wrote:I'm sorry, have you even proffered a solution to all of this, other than wishing all the deplorables (and old people) to die?

Don't forget babies and children.

GannonFan wrote:

mainejeff2 wrote:The best you guys can do is some random Maine shooting back in 2017 and a Chinese stabbing?

More people in Bama need to arm themselves and shoot each other when threatened.

I'm sorry, have you even proffered a solution to all of this, other than wishing all the deplorables (and old people) to die? You seem very big on the vitriol but you come up pretty small when it comes to solutions. We're all ears, share your wisdom on what will make everything better.

Jeff proffers nothing but hatred.

GannonFan wrote:

mainejeff2 wrote:The best you guys can do is some random Maine shooting back in 2017 and a Chinese stabbing?

More people in Bama need to arm themselves and shoot each other when threatened.

I'm sorry, have you even proffered a solution to all of this, other than wishing all the deplorables (and old people) to die? You seem very big on the vitriol but you come up pretty small when it comes to solutions. We're all ears, share your wisdom on what will make everything better.

As for Jeff sharing wisdom, the old saying is you can’t make chicken dumplings out of chicken droppings.

GannonFan wrote:

mainejeff2 wrote:The best you guys can do is some random Maine shooting back in 2017 and a Chinese stabbing?

More people in Bama need to arm themselves and shoot each other when threatened.

I'm sorry, have you even proffered a solution to all of this, other than wishing all the deplorables (and old people) to die? You seem very big on the vitriol but you come up pretty small when it comes to solutions. We're all ears, share your wisdom on what will make everything better.

As for Jeff sharing wisdom, the old saying is you can’t make chicken dumplings out of chicken droppings.

mainejeff2 wrote:

GannonFan wrote:
I'm sorry, have you even proffered a solution to all of this, other than wishing all the deplorables (and old people) to die? You seem very big on the vitriol but you come up pretty small when it comes to solutions. We're all ears, share your wisdom on what will make everything better.

Maybe I could pontificate about it all while I sit on the fence looking down on everyone.

So, your ideas are what then? That was way too nuanced for us mere mortals to understand what your solutions were.

mainejeff2 wrote:

Gil Dobie wrote:Of course this doesn't happen in Maine.

Gunman kills 3, wounds 4th in Maine before being shot dead by police link

What did millions of American's do that their right to own guns should be taken away, because 297 people act out their violence and kill 1219 people. Over 10,000 drunk driving deaths per year, and it's illegal to drive drunk and people still drive drunk and still kill people.

You sound like my father.

Back to Bama.......

I knew you had “daddy issues.”

Gil Dobie wrote:Of course this doesn't happen in Maine.

Gunman kills 3, wounds 4th in Maine before being shot dead by police link

What did millions of American's do that their right to own guns should be taken away, because 297 people act out their violence and kill 1219 people. Over 10,000 drunk driving deaths per year, and it's illegal to drive drunk and people still drive drunk and still kill people.

How come I can't buy pseudoephedrine for a cold when I've never made or used meth?

93henfan wrote:And of course China had another mass stabbing (8 dead) of school children over the weekend That's a pretty regular occurrence over there. The choice of weapon doesn't matter. Crazy people are everywhere.

We really need to ban crazy people.

We could save billions on tanks and aircraft alone...








'93....

houndawg wrote:

Gil Dobie wrote:Of course this doesn't happen in Maine.

Gunman kills 3, wounds 4th in Maine before being shot dead by police link

What did millions of American's do that their right to own guns should be taken away, because 297 people act out their violence and kill 1219 people. Over 10,000 drunk driving deaths per year, and it's illegal to drive drunk and people still drive drunk and still kill people.

How come I can't buy pseudoephedrine for a cold when I've never made or used meth?

I have no problem buying it. Are you illegal without a valid ID? It's really stopped the production of Meth too.

mainejeff2 wrote:

GannonFan wrote:
So, your ideas are what then? That was way too nuanced for us mere mortals to understand what your solutions were.

Triggered.

And yet here you are with no ideas and just rote message board banter. Is that really all you are? For shame.

mainejeff2 wrote:

GannonFan wrote:
So, your ideas are what then? That was way too nuanced for us mere mortals to understand what your solutions were.

Triggered.

Translated - I don't have any solutions. All I have are bitterness and hatred toward anyone who disagrees with me.

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What did millions of American's do that their right to own guns should be taken away, because 297 people act out their violence and kill 1219 people. Over 10,000 drunk driving deaths per year, and it's illegal to drive drunk and people still drive drunk and still kill people.[/quote]
That is the $64,000 question that the Beto-lovers will never answer.

Why guns?

A psycho walks into a school in Parkland, FL and kills 17 kids. CNN has a town hall about the gun 'problem'.

A drunk driver crashes into a bus in Carrollton, KY and kills 24 children. Silence.

What's the difference?

Baldy wrote:

Gil Dobie wrote:What did millions of American's do that their right to own guns should be taken away, because 297 people act out their violence and kill 1219 people. Over 10,000 drunk driving deaths per year, and it's illegal to drive drunk and people still drive drunk and still kill people.

That is the $64,000 question that the Beto-lovers will never answer.

Why guns?

A psycho walks into a school in Parkland, FL and kills 17 kids. CNN has a town hall about the gun 'problem'.

A drunk driver crashes into a bus in Carrollton, KY and kills 24 children. Silence.

What's the difference?

Uh, not to be a killjoy here, but did you just reference a drunk driving bus accident that happened in 1988? And if you did, weren't there plenty of things that changed after that accident, especially in Kentucky? They lowered the intoxication limit, allowed prosecutors to use past DUI's on repeat offenders, made ignition locks tied to breathylizer tests for some convicted. Some would say, those are "common sense" DUI laws.

https://www.whas11.com/article/news/loc ... e9a6768217

GannonFan wrote:

Baldy wrote: That is the $64,000 question that the Beto-lovers will never answer.

Why guns?

A psycho walks into a school in Parkland, FL and kills 17 kids. CNN has a town hall about the gun 'problem'.

A drunk driver crashes into a bus in Carrollton, KY and kills 24 children. Silence.

What's the difference?

Uh, not to be a killjoy here, but did you just reference a drunk driving bus accident that happened in 1988? And if you did, weren't there plenty of things that changed after that accident, especially in Kentucky? They lowered the intoxication limit, allowed prosecutors to use past DUI's on repeat offenders, made ignition locks tied to breathylizer tests for some convicted. Some would say, those are "common sense" DUI laws.

https://www.whas11.com/article/news/loc ... e9a6768217

That's a good start, Ganny.

Were there discussions about banning certain types of alcohol, background checks, or waiting periods? Federally licensed alcohol dealers?
There are over 22,000 "common sense" gun laws on the books. How many are there for alcohol?

Not to mention all the health related issues with alcohol, addiction, etc.

Alcohol's negative effects on society are exponentially greater than guns, yet there is virtually no discussion.

Baldy wrote:

GannonFan wrote:
Uh, not to be a killjoy here, but did you just reference a drunk driving bus accident that happened in 1988? And if you did, weren't there plenty of things that changed after that accident, especially in Kentucky? They lowered the intoxication limit, allowed prosecutors to use past DUI's on repeat offenders, made ignition locks tied to breathylizer tests for some convicted. Some would say, those are "common sense" DUI laws.

https://www.whas11.com/article/news/loc ... e9a6768217

That's a good start, Ganny.

Were there discussions about banning certain types of alcohol, background checks, or waiting periods? Federally licensed alcohol dealers?
There are over 22,000 "common sense" gun laws on the books. How many are there for alcohol?

Not to mention all the health related issues with alcohol, addiction, etc.

Alcohol's negative effects on society are exponentially greater than guns, yet there is virtually no discussion.

Drunk driving is not the analogy you want to make. Drunk driving related fatalities have plummeted since they started cracking down on it ~30 years ago.

Baldy wrote:

GannonFan wrote:
Uh, not to be a killjoy here, but did you just reference a drunk driving bus accident that happened in 1988? And if you did, weren't there plenty of things that changed after that accident, especially in Kentucky? They lowered the intoxication limit, allowed prosecutors to use past DUI's on repeat offenders, made ignition locks tied to breathylizer tests for some convicted. Some would say, those are "common sense" DUI laws.

https://www.whas11.com/article/news/loc ... e9a6768217

That's a good start, Ganny.

Were there discussions about banning certain types of alcohol, background checks, or waiting periods? Federally licensed alcohol dealers?
There are over 22,000 "common sense" gun laws on the books. How many are there for alcohol?

Not to mention all the health related issues with alcohol, addiction, etc.

Alcohol's negative effects on society are exponentially greater than guns, yet there is virtually no discussion.

Well, you need to be 21 or older to drink (older than to buy a gun), alcohol is regulated by the FDA I believe, so there are regulations on how it's made, where it's made, etc. Lots of places have last calls (you can't buy beer at a baseball game after the 7th inning, NFL football I think it's the start of the 4th quarter, etc), bars can be legally held responsible if they give beer to someone who should be redflagged (i.e. they look like they are already drunk). As for the health related issues, alcoholism and the negative effects of alcohol are routinely reported on by health journals, and there is federal and private money devoted to the study of alcoholism and how to minimize it. There are laws and regulations all over the place regarding alcohol. Heck, we wouldn't have an ATF without alcohol.

Skjellyfetti wrote:

Baldy wrote: That's a good start, Ganny.

Were there discussions about banning certain types of alcohol, background checks, or waiting periods? Federally licensed alcohol dealers?
There are over 22,000 "common sense" gun laws on the books. How many are there for alcohol?

Not to mention all the health related issues with alcohol, addiction, etc.

Alcohol's negative effects on society are exponentially greater than guns, yet there is virtually no discussion.

Drunk driving is not the analogy you want to make. Drunk driving related fatalities have plummeted since they started cracking down on it ~30 years ago.

Drunk driving isn't *the* analogy I'm trying to make. It's just one of countless possible analogies.

GannonFan wrote:

Baldy wrote: That's a good start, Ganny.

Were there discussions about banning certain types of alcohol, background checks, or waiting periods? Federally licensed alcohol dealers?
There are over 22,000 "common sense" gun laws on the books. How many are there for alcohol?

Not to mention all the health related issues with alcohol, addiction, etc.

Alcohol's negative effects on society are exponentially greater than guns, yet there is virtually no discussion.

Well, you need to be 21 or older to drink (older than to buy a gun), alcohol is regulated by the FDA I believe, so there are regulations on how it's made, where it's made, etc. Lots of places have last calls (you can't buy beer at a baseball game after the 7th inning, NFL football I think it's the start of the 4th quarter, etc), bars can be legally held responsible if they give beer to someone who should be redflagged (i.e. they look like they are already drunk). As for the health related issues, alcoholism and the negative effects of alcohol are routinely reported on by health journals, and there is federal and private money devoted to the study of alcoholism and how to minimize it. There are laws and regulations all over the place regarding alcohol. Heck, we wouldn't have an ATF without alcohol.

All of that is mostly true, but you are missing the point here. Alcohol related deaths exponentially dwarf gun related deaths. Alcohol is far more harmful and destructive to society than guns could ever be, but we have politicians and pundits alike actively trying to disarm society because guns are sooooo dangerous.
Why?

mainejeff2 wrote:

Baldy wrote: All of that is mostly true, but you are missing the point here. Alcohol related deaths exponentially dwarf gun related deaths. Alcohol is far more harmful and destructive to society than guns could ever be, but we have politicians and pundits alike actively trying to disarm society because guns are sooooo dangerous.
Why?

You've hitched your pony to a loser, Baldy!

Take your best shot, queen.

Answer the question.

This ^ is actually pretty damned fascinating
Both sides have valid strong points

I change my mind to whoever posts last - which is the sign of a great debate

Gentlemen, please continue

Chizzang wrote:This ^ is actually pretty damned fascinating
Both sides have valid strong points

I change my mind to whoever posts last - which is the sign of a great debate

Gentlemen, please continue

Cleets reading Advanced Quantum Mechanics.

Boning up for next Big Tech thread?