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Re: Trump is Not Well

Postby SuperHornet » Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:34 am

An story arc on Madam Secretary featured the President being temporarily removed from power while he was insane due to a medical issue. Could this actually happen? The danger involved is that if you're wrong, that COULD be classified as treason....
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Re: Trump is Not Well

Postby AshevilleApp » Sat Sep 14, 2019 2:12 pm

CAA Flagship wrote:
UNI88 wrote:
I think Kalm is saying that the right's fears about socialism will turn out to be groundless in much the same manner that the left's fears about Trump have turned out to be groundless because the checks and balances in the system will prevent them from from making significant changes.

Yes there would be executive orders and the priorities of federal agencies would change under President Biden/Warren/Harris/Sanders but will the changes be significant and will they be long lasting? Probably not. We get all bent out of shape thinking the end is nigh when we probably don't need to.

What checks and balances are there for a move to healthcare for all or free college or universal income for all? If the left is in power, there is no constitutional verse that can prevent it. Trump can only get away with things that laws allow or don't prevent.


Isn't that the same thing we heard for eight years with Obama? Didn't happen then and won't happen if a Democrat wins the next election. The checks and balances come from the electorate.

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Re: RE: Re: Trump is Not Well

Postby houndawg » Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:11 am

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Do you honestly think he’s stable?
He looks pretty stable. I don't think he's going to tip over any time soon. His last opponent on the other hand did tip over so is it safe to say that she is/was unstable?




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He could croak at any time. I'm old enough to know many healthy people younger than that who just tipped over one day out of the blue. I hoping he'll be on TV when he does, that would be the coolest avater ever :thumb:
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Re: Trump is Not Well

Postby Aho Old Guy » Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:02 pm

CAA Flagship wrote:
UNI88 wrote:
I think Kalm is saying that the right's fears about socialism will turn out to be groundless in much the same manner that the left's fears about Trump have turned out to be groundless because the checks and balances in the system will prevent them from from making significant changes.

Yes there would be executive orders and the priorities of federal agencies would change under President Biden/Warren/Harris/Sanders but will the changes be significant and will they be long lasting? Probably not. We get all bent out of shape thinking the end is nigh when we probably don't need to.

What checks and balances are there for a move to healthcare for all or free college or universal income for all? If the left is in power, there is no constitutional verse that can prevent it. Trump can only get away with things that laws allow or don't prevent.


The Constitution of the (formerly) Great State of North Carolina provides that:

"The General Assembly shall provide that the benefits of The University of North Carolina and other public institutions of higher education, as far as practicable, be extended to the people of the State free of expense"


The Generous Assembly has lost their freakin' minds around here ...
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Re: Trump is Not Well

Postby GannonFan » Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:09 pm

Aho Old Guy wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote:What checks and balances are there for a move to healthcare for all or free college or universal income for all? If the left is in power, there is no constitutional verse that can prevent it. Trump can only get away with things that laws allow or don't prevent.


The Constitution of the (formerly) Great State of North Carolina provides that:

"The General Assembly shall provide that the benefits of The University of North Carolina and other public institutions of higher education, as far as practicable, be extended to the people of the State free of expense"


The Generous Assembly has lost their freakin' minds around here ...
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What is it with Southerners using the phrase if "practicable". Isn't that what Lee told Ewell to do at the end of the first day of Gettysburg regarding Cemetery Hill? Does this mean they won't make it free after all? :coffee:
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Re: Trump is Not Well

Postby Ibanez » Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:39 pm

GannonFan wrote:
Aho Old Guy wrote:
The Constitution of the (formerly) Great State of North Carolina provides that:

"The General Assembly shall provide that the benefits of The University of North Carolina and other public institutions of higher education, as far as practicable, be extended to the people of the State free of expense"


The Generous Assembly has lost their freakin' minds around here ...
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What is it with Southerners using the phrase if "practicable". Isn't that what Lee told Ewell to do at the end of the first day of Gettysburg regarding Cemetery Hill? Does this mean they won't make it free after all? :coffee:

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Re: Trump is Not Well

Postby GannonFan » Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:58 pm

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GannonFan wrote:
What is it with Southerners using the phrase if "practicable". Isn't that what Lee told Ewell to do at the end of the first day of Gettysburg regarding Cemetery Hill? Does this mean they won't make it free after all? :coffee:

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Was "practicable" in the 14th and 15th amendments then and I just missed it? :rofl: :clap: :suspicious: :ohno:
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Re: Trump is Not Well

Postby JohnStOnge » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:31 pm

The solution is simple: Just don't vote for the guy next time. At this point I think we have a good chance of getting by with having a mentally ill person as President for four years (even though we are starting to see some disconcerting things happening with respect to Iran). But let's not extend the risk period.
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Re: Trump is Not Well

Postby Ibanez » Tue Sep 17, 2019 5:34 am

GannonFan wrote:
Ibanez wrote:It only gives you an excuse to not do something


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Was "practicable" in the 14th and 15th amendments then and I just missed it? :rofl: :clap: :suspicious: :ohno:

:lol:

We have people who draft remediation plans and they LOVE to put in "if applicable" or "as needed". :roll: It drives me crazy.
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Re: Trump is Not Well

Postby Gil Dobie » Tue Sep 17, 2019 6:34 am

Trump is as mature and sane as any 12 year old male going thru puberty.
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Re: Trump is Not Well

Postby Ivytalk » Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:00 am

Gil Dobie wrote:Trump is as mature and sane as any 12 year old male going thru puberty.

That’s very JSO of you, Gil.
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Re: Trump is Not Well

Postby Gil Dobie » Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:02 am

Ivytalk wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:Trump is as mature and sane as any 12 year old male going thru puberty.

That’s very JSO of you, Gil.


This could be true of any politician. They are all out there like fricken Pluto.
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Re: Trump is Not Well

Postby kalm » Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:24 am

Ivytalk wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:Trump is as mature and sane as any 12 year old male going thru puberty.

That’s very JSO of you, Gil.


With apologies to 12 year old males going through puberty.
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Re: Trump is Not Well

Postby ASUG8 » Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:23 pm

If there's a viable Republican challenger I'll vote for them

Or independent.

Or Democrat. :lol:

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Re: Trump is Not Well

Postby Winterborn » Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:03 pm

kalm wrote:
Pwns wrote:If the worst case scenarios haven't happened yet, they won't happen at all.

He'll be gone when his first term is done and we'll all laugh about it.


I think and hope you’re right. He’s shown the strength of the system.

But he’s still batshit crazy and so are his supporters. TDS is real but it’s similar on the other side and the mostly unfounded fears of socialism taking over America.


While I do not think we will get full blown socialism in America, what we will get is a shitty hybrid system that is almost as bad. :twocents:

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Re: Trump is Not Well

Postby JohnStOnge » Tue Sep 17, 2019 5:21 pm

Gil Dobie wrote:Trump is as mature and sane as any 12 year old male going thru puberty.


Early on during his Presidential run I said he acts like a middle school kid. However, I am now thinking it's more something like a second grader. That thing with the hurricane maps and trying to insist that he didn't get it wrong to the point of crudely marking that map with a sharpie was really childish.
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Re: Trump is Not Well

Postby dbackjon » Tue Sep 17, 2019 5:34 pm

Aho Old Guy wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote:What checks and balances are there for a move to healthcare for all or free college or universal income for all? If the left is in power, there is no constitutional verse that can prevent it. Trump can only get away with things that laws allow or don't prevent.


The Constitution of the (formerly) Great State of North Carolina provides that:

"The General Assembly shall provide that the benefits of The University of North Carolina and other public institutions of higher education, as far as practicable, be extended to the people of the State free of expense"


The Generous Assembly has lost their freakin' minds around here ...
:shock:


Arizona's Constitution was written in 1912, and basically says the same thing. Of course the State GOP feels free to ignore it.
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Re: Trump is Not Well

Postby dbackjon » Tue Sep 17, 2019 5:38 pm

Winterborn wrote:
kalm wrote:
I think and hope you’re right. He’s shown the strength of the system.

But he’s still batshit crazy and so are his supporters. TDS is real but it’s similar on the other side and the mostly unfounded fears of socialism taking over America.


While I do not think we will get full blown socialism in America, what we will get is a shitty hybrid system that is almost as bad. :twocents:



You mean like paying farmers not to grow crops, paying them if they can't sell their crops, subsidizing their roads, and pretty much everything else in the most heavily subsidized state, per capita?
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Re: Trump is Not Well

Postby UNI88 » Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:44 pm

dbackjon wrote:
Aho Old Guy wrote:
The Constitution of the (formerly) Great State of North Carolina provides that:

"The General Assembly shall provide that the benefits of The University of North Carolina and other public institutions of higher education, as far as practicable, be extended to the people of the State free of expense"


The Generous Assembly has lost their freakin' minds around here ...
:shock:


Arizona's Constitution was written in 1912, and basically says the same thing. Of course the State GOP feels free to ignore it.


Maybe it's not practicable.

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Re: Trump is Not Well

Postby Winterborn » Tue Sep 17, 2019 9:04 pm

dbackjon wrote:
Winterborn wrote:
While I do not think we will get full blown socialism in America, what we will get is a shitty hybrid system that is almost as bad. :twocents:



You mean like paying farmers not to grow crops, paying them if they can't sell their crops, subsidizing their roads, and pretty much everything else in the most heavily subsidized state, per capita?


What do you know, a small poor state outwitted the larger states... :coffee:

One would of thought with a larger population they would have had a higher pool of smart people to pull from.


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