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Re: The Trump Whistleblower Extravaganza Thread

Postby UNI88 » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:35 pm

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You don't think Trump's "reordering" of the US's roles is causing the movement of trillions of dollars?

Stopping the exfiltration of American wealth certainly is affecting someone.


I don't hate Trump and I think he's done some good things as President but I'm under no illusion that he gives a shit about me or people like me. He does what he does to feed his ego.

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Re: The Trump Whistleblower Extravaganza Thread

Postby Skjellyfetti » Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:00 pm

:rofl:

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Cid1990 wrote:It is going to be a sad day for a lot of people when all that comes of all of this is Flynn getting whacked.

Mueller is going to take a beating on the left before this business is over

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Re: The Trump Whistleblower Extravaganza Thread

Postby Ivytalk » Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:09 pm

Skjellyfetti wrote::rofl:

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Re: The Trump Whistleblower Extravaganza Thread

Postby Skjellyfetti » Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:32 pm

Good question. My guess is Victoria Toensing.
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Cid1990 wrote:It is going to be a sad day for a lot of people when all that comes of all of this is Flynn getting whacked.

Mueller is going to take a beating on the left before this business is over

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Re: The Trump Whistleblower Extravaganza Thread

Postby SDHornet » Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:15 pm

Byron York breakdown of the Vindman transcript.

tldr; version: Vindman doesn't take issue with the transcript of the phone call that was released, but rather takes issue because of "feels". :lol:

Oh and the "whistleblower" has a gofundme account out. Whoops.

A new complaint to the Intelligence Community Inspector General alleges that the whistleblower whose allegations touched off House Democrats’ impeachment inquiry may have violated federal law by indirectly soliciting more than a quarter-million dollars from mostly anonymous sources via a GoFundMe page.

https://nypost.com/2019/11/12/complaint ... deral-law/

Schiff impeachment implosion continues. :rofl:

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Re: The Trump Whistleblower Extravaganza Thread

Postby UNI88 » Tue Nov 12, 2019 11:04 pm

Ivytalk wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote::rofl:

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Whose purse is that?


The hooker who brought the blow?

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Re: The Trump Whistleblower Extravaganza Thread

Postby houndawg » Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:10 am

SDHornet wrote:Byron York breakdown of the Vindman transcript.

tldr; version: Vindman doesn't take issue with the transcript of the phone call that was released, but rather takes issue because of "feels". :lol:

Oh and the "whistleblower" has a gofundme account out. Whoops.

A new complaint to the Intelligence Community Inspector General alleges that the whistleblower whose allegations touched off House Democrats’ impeachment inquiry may have violated federal law by indirectly soliciting more than a quarter-million dollars from mostly anonymous sources via a GoFundMe page.

https://nypost.com/2019/11/12/complaint ... deral-law/

Schiff impeachment implosion continues. :rofl:



All this would have been over a long time ago if he would have just sat down with Mueller and released his taxes just like any other person with nothing to hide. Its almost like he doesn't have nothing to hide.
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Re: The Trump Whistleblower Extravaganza Thread

Postby Ibanez » Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:15 am

SDHornet wrote:Byron York breakdown of the Vindman transcript.

tldr; version: Vindman doesn't take issue with the transcript of the phone call that was released, but rather takes issue because of "feels". :lol:

Oh and the "whistleblower" has a gofundme account out. Whoops.

A new complaint to the Intelligence Community Inspector General alleges that the whistleblower whose allegations touched off House Democrats’ impeachment inquiry may have violated federal law by indirectly soliciting more than a quarter-million dollars from mostly anonymous sources via a GoFundMe page.

https://nypost.com/2019/11/12/complaint ... deral-law/

Schiff impeachment implosion continues. :rofl:


I imagine he figured he’d need it for security and lawsuits once the Law and Order “Republicans” start threatening him and his family.


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Re: The Trump Whistleblower Extravaganza Thread

Postby houndawg » Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:27 am

SDHornet wrote:Byron York breakdown of the Vindman transcript.

tldr; version: Vindman doesn't take issue with the transcript of the phone call that was released, but rather takes issue because of "feels". :lol:

Oh and the "whistleblower" has a gofundme account out. Whoops.

A new complaint to the Intelligence Community Inspector General alleges that the whistleblower whose allegations touched off House Democrats’ impeachment inquiry may have violated federal law by indirectly soliciting more than a quarter-million dollars from mostly anonymous sources via a GoFundMe page.

https://nypost.com/2019/11/12/complaint ... deral-law/

Schiff impeachment implosion continues. :rofl:



Pro tip: call your solicitation a "charity" for, oh... veterans or, say...kids with cancer. :rofl:
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Re: The Trump Whistleblower Extravaganza Thread

Postby HI54UNI » Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:42 am

So I see we're moving on to calling it "bribery" now since nobody knows what quid pro quo means. :roll:
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Re: The Trump Whistleblower Extravaganza Thread

Postby Skjellyfetti » Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:14 am

HI54UNI wrote:So I see we're moving on to calling it "bribery" now since nobody knows what quid pro quo means. :roll:


Huh?
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Mueller is going to take a beating on the left before this business is over

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Re: The Trump Whistleblower Extravaganza Thread

Postby Ibanez » Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:30 am

HI54UNI wrote:So I see we're moving on to calling it "bribery" now since nobody knows what quid pro quo means. :roll:

John Dean on CNN this morning?


I've said it here - quid pro quo (this for that) isn't necessarily wrong. Foreign aid SHOULD have conditions.

But they shouldn't be for personal/political gain. :twocents:
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Re: The Trump Whistleblower Extravaganza Thread

Postby 89Hen » Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:38 am

Ibanez wrote:
HI54UNI wrote:So I see we're moving on to calling it "bribery" now since nobody knows what quid pro quo means. :roll:

John Dean on CNN this morning?


I've said it here - quid pro quo (this for that) isn't necessarily wrong. Foreign aid SHOULD have conditions.

But they shouldn't be for personal/political gain. :twocents:

Is it only personal/political gain if you're asking to investigate the #1 candidate for one of the two major parties? Wouldn't that be in the interest of the country as a whole to some extent?
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Re: The Trump Whistleblower Extravaganza Thread

Postby Ibanez » Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:49 am

89Hen wrote:
Ibanez wrote:John Dean on CNN this morning?


I've said it here - quid pro quo (this for that) isn't necessarily wrong. Foreign aid SHOULD have conditions.

But they shouldn't be for personal/political gain. :twocents:

Is it only personal/political gain if you're asking to investigate the #1 candidate for one of the two major parties? Wouldn't that be in the interest of the country as a whole to some extent?


If Biden needs to be investigated for something wrong, why isn't the DOJ investigating it? Why ask a foreign government?

U.S. President Donald Trump on Friday told reporters he has not asked the Department of Justice to investigate activities by Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden’s son, Hunter Biden.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKBN1WQ2OV


Seems to me the DOJ, not Ukraine, should be investigating Biden.
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Re: The Trump Whistleblower Extravaganza Thread

Postby Ibanez » Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:52 am

The Republicans finally get the public, transparent hearings that they wanted then voted against. Should be a shit show. :coffee: :coffee:
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Re: The Trump Whistleblower Extravaganza Thread

Postby ∞∞∞ » Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:18 am

Cons bitchin' about "the deep state" for 3+ years so it figures it was projection the whole time and they're now defending communication outside of legal and politically accountable channels.

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Re: The Trump Whistleblower Extravaganza Thread

Postby 89Hen » Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:27 am

Ibanez wrote:
89Hen wrote:Is it only personal/political gain if you're asking to investigate the #1 candidate for one of the two major parties? Wouldn't that be in the interest of the country as a whole to some extent?


If Biden needs to be investigated for something wrong, why isn't the DOJ investigating it? Why ask a foreign government?

U.S. President Donald Trump on Friday told reporters he has not asked the Department of Justice to investigate activities by Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden’s son, Hunter Biden.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKBN1WQ2OV


Seems to me the DOJ, not Ukraine, should be investigating Biden.

Both should be.
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Re: The Trump Whistleblower Extravaganza Thread

Postby BDKJMU » Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:34 am

Ibanez wrote:The Republicans finally get the public, transparent hearings that they wanted then voted against. Should be a shit show. :coffee: :coffee:

No they don't.

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Re: The Trump Whistleblower Extravaganza Thread

Postby ∞∞∞ » Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:35 am

Sondland is a genuine American patriot. Questioned corruption, stood up to it, documented everything.

The final part of his opening statement is on point:
There are two Ukraine stories today. The first is the one we are discussing this morning and that you have been hearing for the past two weeks. It is a rancorous story about whistle blowers, Mr. Giuliani, side channels, quid pro quos, corruption, and interference in elections. In this story Ukraine is merely an object.

But there is another Ukraine story—a positive, bipartisan one. In this second story, Ukraine is the subject. This one is about young people in a 20 young nation, struggling to break free of its past, hopeful that their new government will finally usher in a new Ukraine, proud of its independence from Russia, eager to join Western institutions and enjoy a more secure and prosperous life. This story describes a nation developing an inclusive, democratic nationalism, not unlike what we in America, in our best moments, feel about our diverse country—less concerned about what language we speak, what religion if any we practice, where our parents and grandparents came from; more concerned about building a new country."

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Postby AZGrizFan » Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:37 am

∞∞∞ wrote:Sondland is a genuine American patriot. Questioned corruption, stood up to it, and documented everything.

His final summary is amazing:
There are two Ukraine stories today. The first is the one we are discussing this morning and that you have been hearing for the past two weeks. It is a rancorous story about whistle blowers, Mr. Giuliani, side channels, quid pro quos, corruption, and interference in elections. In this story Ukraine is merely an object.

But there is another Ukraine story—a positive, bipartisan one. In this second story, Ukraine is the subject. This one is about young people in a 20 young nation, struggling to break free of its past, hopeful that their new government will finally usher in a new Ukraine, proud of its independence from Russia, eager to join Western institutions and enjoy a more secure and prosperous life. This story describes a nation developing an inclusive, democratic nationalism, not unlike what we in America, in our best moments, feel about our diverse country—less concerned about what language we speak, what religion if any we practice, where our parents and grandparents came from; more concerned about building a new country."


Why doesn't he just wrap himself in a Ukrainian flag. :roll: :roll: :roll:

You are such a sucker for hyperbole.
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AZGrizFan wrote:Why doesn't he just wrap himself in a Ukrainian flag. :roll: :roll: :roll:

You are such a sucker for hyperbole.

Because I have empathy.

You defend a man of cares more about a conspiracy theory than an entire country worth of people. :roll:

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Re: The Trump Whistleblower Extravaganza Thread

Postby Ibanez » Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:39 am

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Ibanez wrote:The Republicans finally get the public, transparent hearings that they wanted then voted against. Should be a shit show. :coffee: :coffee:

No they don't.

Are they not on TV? Do they not get equal time to question the witnesses?

Or are the Reps still butt hurt that they were in the private hearings (well, the ones that decided to show up) and they couldn't use the media to get their defense out there?
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Re: The Trump Whistleblower Extravaganza Thread

Postby Ibanez » Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:41 am

89Hen wrote:
Ibanez wrote:
If Biden needs to be investigated for something wrong, why isn't the DOJ investigating it? Why ask a foreign government?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKBN1WQ2OV


Seems to me the DOJ, not Ukraine, should be investigating Biden.

Both should be.
If Biden did something wrong, he should certainly be investigated by our DOJ primarily. If he did something illegal in Ukraine, they should investigate him.


Trump should NOT be asking for a foreign country to investigate a political rival. At the least, it is quite unethical. It's wrong. Let the DOJ do it through the proper channels.

Is it impeachable? I don't know. But it is shady as heck.
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Re: The Trump Whistleblower Extravaganza Thread

Postby BDKJMU » Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:46 am

Ibanez wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:No they don't.

Are they not on TV? Do they not get equal time to question the witnesses?

Or are the Reps still butt hurt that they were in the private hearings (well, the ones that decided to show up) and they couldn't use the media to get their defense out there?

The witnesses approved by the donks.

BDKJMU wrote:
Ibanez wrote:The Republicans finally get the public, transparent hearings that they wanted then voted against. Should be a shit show. :coffee: :coffee:

What they wanted was to equal opportunity to call witnesses, something they can't do without having Schiff's approval.

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Re: The Trump Whistleblower Extravaganza Thread

Postby Ibanez » Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:00 am

BDKJMU wrote:
Ibanez wrote:Are they not on TV? Do they not get equal time to question the witnesses?

Or are the Reps still butt hurt that they were in the private hearings (well, the ones that decided to show up) and they couldn't use the media to get their defense out there?

The witnesses approved by the donks.

BDKJMU wrote:

What they wanted was to equal opportunity to call witnesses, something they can't do without having Schiff's approval.
They can call witnesses. I'm sure the witnesses would have to have direct knowledge of the charges or be involved in someway either, something i'm not sure would qualify the Bidens. They weren't on the call nor were they involved with withholding aid.


But I can see your point. :thumb:
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