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Dr. Lawrence Britt has examined the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia) and several Latin American regimes. Britt found 14 defining characteristics common to each:



1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.

6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed
to the government's policies or actions.

9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.
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15. Strong Gun Control.

16. Strong centralized control of education, no homeschooling or private schools allowed.
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17. Popularity of Soccer
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CAA Flagship wrote:17. Popularity of football
FYP ;)
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This thread wrapped up quickly. Nice work, gents.
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Also, my agency just moved to a brand new building in DC this week, just a block away from our old building.

I'm pretty sure #18 is....

18. Gender neutral restrooms

I've been using ours for my morning shit. Privacy is nice.
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93henfan wrote:Also, my agency just moved to a brand new building in DC this week, just a block away from our old building.

I'm pretty sure #18 is....

18. Gender neutral restrooms

I've been using ours for my morning shit. Privacy is nice.
Starbucks in the lobby?
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CAA Flagship wrote:
93henfan wrote:Also, my agency just moved to a brand new building in DC this week, just a block away from our old building.

I'm pretty sure #18 is....

18. Gender neutral restrooms

I've been using ours for my morning shit. Privacy is nice.
Starbucks in the lobby?
No. The old building had it. Have to walk a block now. Fuckers!
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93henfan wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: Starbucks in the lobby?
No. The old building had it. Have to walk a block now. Fuckers!
Are you closer to Metro or Food Trucks?
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CAA Flagship wrote:
93henfan wrote:
No. The old building had it. Have to walk a block now. Fuckers!
Are you closer to Metro or Food Trucks?
Pretty much a wash. I'm now a block closer to the exciting franchise cuisine options such as Panda Express and Moe's Southwest Grill! It's like getting a free Bud Light when the Eagles win the Super Bowl!

Life-changing.
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93henfan wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: Are you closer to Metro or Food Trucks?
Pretty much a wash. I'm now a block closer to the exciting franchise cuisine options such as Panda Express and Moe's Southwest Grill! It's like getting a free Bud Light when the Eagles win the Super Bowl!

Life-changing.
Sweet. So what's the weather like in DC today? We got about 6 inches of snow the other day and today begins the big melt.
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CAA Flagship wrote:
93henfan wrote:
Pretty much a wash. I'm now a block closer to the exciting franchise cuisine options such as Panda Express and Moe's Southwest Grill! It's like getting a free Bud Light when the Eagles win the Super Bowl!

Life-changing.
Sweet. So what's the weather like in DC today? We got about 6 inches of snow the other day and today begins the big melt.
The sun came out for the first time since early November! 19F when I woke up. Windy.
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CAA Flagship wrote:
93henfan wrote:
Pretty much a wash. I'm now a block closer to the exciting franchise cuisine options such as Panda Express and Moe's Southwest Grill! It's like getting a free Bud Light when the Eagles win the Super Bowl!

Life-changing.
Sweet. So what's the weather like in DC today? We got about 6 inches of snow the other day and today begins the big melt.
3rd plow of the year! That 92 Jeep is a mule!

Snow level rising 5000 ft tonight with a strong and wet system coming in off the Pacific. I’m naming it “Tulsi”.
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kalm wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: Sweet. So what's the weather like in DC today? We got about 6 inches of snow the other day and today begins the big melt.
3rd plow of the year! That 92 Jeep is a mule!

Snow level rising 5000 ft tonight with a strong and wet system coming in off the Pacific. I’m naming it “Tulsi”.
He said DC, you fuck!
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93henfan wrote:
kalm wrote:
3rd plow of the year! That 92 Jeep is a mule!

Snow level rising 5000 ft tonight with a strong and wet system coming in off the Pacific. I’m naming it “Tulsi”.
He said DC, you fuck!
Don't ya hate it when people try to hijack the conversation? :ohno: :ohno:
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kalm wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: Sweet. So what's the weather like in DC today? We got about 6 inches of snow the other day and today begins the big melt.
3rd plow of the year! That 92 Jeep is a mule!

Snow level rising 5000 ft tonight with a strong and wet system coming in off the Pacific. I’m naming it “Tulsi”.
Bye Kalm. Sorry to hear that you will be buried under 5000 ft of snow. It's been nice knowing you.
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kalm wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: Sweet. So what's the weather like in DC today? We got about 6 inches of snow the other day and today begins the big melt.
3rd plow of the year! That 92 Jeep is a mule!

Snow level rising 5000 ft tonight with a strong and wet system coming in off the Pacific. I’m naming it “Tulsi”.

Are you sure you are going to get that much? She might just show up and not do anything.
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19. Suppression of Free speech

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50858919
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93henfan wrote:Also, my agency just moved to a brand new building in DC this week, just a block away from our old building.

I'm pretty sure #18 is....

18. Gender neutral restrooms

I've been using ours for my morning shit. Privacy is nice.
How far from Foggy Bottom? I’ll be in a 7th floor job at HST starting in Sep.

Lunch?

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CID1990 wrote:
93henfan wrote:Also, my agency just moved to a brand new building in DC this week, just a block away from our old building.

I'm pretty sure #18 is....

18. Gender neutral restrooms

I've been using ours for my morning shit. Privacy is nice.
How far from Foggy Bottom? I’ll be in a 7th floor job at HST starting in Sep.

Lunch?

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93henfan wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
How far from Foggy Bottom? I’ll be in a 7th floor job at HST starting in Sep.

Lunch?

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93henfan wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
How far from Foggy Bottom? I’ll be in a 7th floor job at HST starting in Sep.

Lunch?

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Ok then. Lunch it is!
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CID1990 wrote:
93henfan wrote:
L'Enfant Plaza, basically.
Ok then. Lunch it is!
Absolutely. Only a 15 minute metro or Uber ride away.
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Pwns wrote:19. Suppression of Free speech

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50858919
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Chizzang wrote:Dr. Lawrence Britt has examined the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia) and several Latin American regimes. Britt found 14 defining characteristics common to each:



1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.

6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed
to the government's policies or actions.

9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.
It's useless to post this in a forum where most gladly accept Fascism as long as their guy remains firmly entrenched in power.

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It's also useless to post this as the only time partisans will think it's true is when their preferred candidate loses and they want to tar and feather the winner from the party they despise. Been that way since Dubya was in office - first he was Hitler and a fascist, then Obama was either Hitler or some communist version of Hitler, and now Trump is Hitler as well.

Not a huge reveal here, we aren't a fascist country, we're not anywhere in the vicinity of being a fascist country, and none of our leaders are even remotely in the same conversation as a Hitler. And if you really think we are, then you should go to every one of your history or poly sci teachers and shame them for doing such a piss poor job with your education.
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