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NYT still does some good stuff from time to time. Looking forward to the whole series. Following the advice in Part 2:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/201 ... phone.html

Yet 911 can't use your cell phone to get your location in an emergency. How the actual hell.

Most importantly is how it’s used and where it leads. I’m starting to believe that AI is at least 10 years ahead of our understanding of it. Not just location tracking but algorithms for what we say. As Elon Musk points out, Google, Facebook, etc. are already more knowledgeable than the brightest of human minds. And they have 7+billion worker bees feeding that intelligence on a second by second basis across the globe. It never stops. The only missing piece is self awareness which already may be present.

I’ve probably already said too much so if I never post on this forum again you’ll know why...

Pwns wrote:Yet 911 can't use your cell phone to get your location in an emergency. How the actual hell.

Because the cell phone part of your smart phone isn't the part that is "smart".

These companies aren't using your cellphone calls to track your location.

Companies know when I walk into their fucking store and instantly send me ecoupons to use while i’m There, but the cops can’t track an iphone call.

The obvious, if troglodyte, answer is to stop using smartphones. I remember my dad explaining years ago that he first bought a cell phone for my mom in case she had car trouble at night. I also remember the lines that formed at courthouse pay phones (remember them?) early in my legal career, when attorneys wanted to call clients to tell them how a hearing went in a big case.

Abolish the smartphone!

Seriously, some thought-provoking stuff in there. Thanks for sharing it!

Interesting, but not at all shocking. I don't think many are so naïve as to think that their movements aren't trackable through their phone.

Fortunately for me, my day to day travels are so mundane and uninteresting that I'm not terribly concerned.

SCBH is at home, then work, then home, then the gymnastics center, then the High School - must be Thursday.

SunCoastBlueHen wrote:Interesting, but not at all shocking. I don't think many are so naïve as to think that their movements aren't trackable through their phone.

Fortunately for me, my day to day travels are so mundane and uninteresting that I'm not terribly concerned.

SCBH is at home, then work, then home, then the gymnastics center, then the High School - must be Thursday.

CAA Flagship wrote:

SunCoastBlueHen wrote:Interesting, but not at all shocking. I don't think many are so naïve as to think that their movements aren't trackable through their phone.

Fortunately for me, my day to day travels are so mundane and uninteresting that I'm not terribly concerned.

SCBH is at home, then work, then home, then the gymnastics center, then the High School - must be Thursday.

Well, I guess that would be one possible interpretation.

SunCoastBlueHen wrote:Interesting, but not at all shocking. I don't think many are so naïve as to think that their movements aren't trackable through their phone.

Fortunately for me, my day to day travels are so mundane and uninteresting that I'm not terribly concerned.

SCBH is at home, then work, then home, then the gymnastics center, then the High School - must be Thursday.

I didn’t think about that. I like driving. It’s meditative for me. I rarely take the same same way twice going to work or town and we do recreational driving in the country and to various fishing spots. My footprint suggests UPS, Uber, or drug dealer.

CAA Flagship wrote:

SunCoastBlueHen wrote:Interesting, but not at all shocking. I don't think many are so naïve as to think that their movements aren't trackable through their phone.

Fortunately for me, my day to day travels are so mundane and uninteresting that I'm not terribly concerned.

SCBH is at home, then work, then home, then the gymnastics center, then the High School - must be Thursday.

kalm wrote:

SunCoastBlueHen wrote:Interesting, but not at all shocking. I don't think many are so naïve as to think that their movements aren't trackable through their phone.

Fortunately for me, my day to day travels are so mundane and uninteresting that I'm not terribly concerned.

SCBH is at home, then work, then home, then the gymnastics center, then the High School - must be Thursday.

I didn’t think about that. I like driving. It’s meditative for me. I rarely take the same same way twice going to work or town and we do recreational driving in the country and to various fishing spots. My footprint suggests UPS, Uber, or drug dealer.

It also suggests you have a bad slice on your tee shot.

CAA Flagship wrote:

kalm wrote:
I didn’t think about that. I like driving. It’s meditative for me. I rarely take the same same way twice going to work or town and we do recreational driving in the country and to various fishing spots. My footprint suggests UPS, Uber, or drug dealer.

It also suggests you have a bad slice on your tee shot.

Rarely. It’s usually a trappey pull hook from hanging on my back foot that gets me in trouble. But I can miss it both ways.

(No homo)

mainejeff2 wrote:Paranoia is a horrible thing.

Amen, brother.

Some would argue (not necessarily me) that what we're seeing is the price of getting a lot of the things we get from Google and Facebook without paying subscriptions. All of this is really about coming up with more data-driven targeted advertising. Maybe that's a false dichotomy, but that's what I hear people say.

Pwns wrote:Some would argue (not necessarily me) that what we're seeing is the price of getting a lot of the things we get from Google and Facebook without paying subscriptions. All of this is really about coming up with more data-driven targeted advertising. Maybe that's a false dichotomy, but that's what I hear people say.

I would agree with that.

"If you're not paying for the product, you ARE the product."

Probably not 100% true, but it's true in most cases (including Google and Facebook), imo.

I already “accidentally” walk into people who are walking on the sidewalk staring at their phones

I guess the next step is for me to not be a hypocrite and go back to an old school non-smartphone

I’ve definitely been considering it over the last few years

I have as well. I think Spotify and the quality digital camera is all that I would miss. Need a smartphone for my job, but no real good reason for a personal one

Good article 93.

Sad thing is most people will not care and ask you why this is an issue.

kalm wrote: I didn’t think about that. I like driving. It’s meditative for me. I rarely take the same same way twice going to work or town and we do recreational driving in the country and to various fishing spots. My footprint suggests UPS, Uber, or drug dealer.

I do as well. Love driving on long road trips.

My data suggests that multiple people own this phone and it may be in the Midwest one day and Asia the next.

93henfan wrote:NYT still does some good stuff from time to time. Looking forward to the whole series. Following the advice in Part 2:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/201 ... phone.html

You wait until the decision algorithms start nudging us in a particular direction (choices) and we don't realize it because it is so subtle. We will be nudged to make a choice, but believe the choice was ours.

SeattleGriz wrote:

93henfan wrote:NYT still does some good stuff from time to time. Looking forward to the whole series. Following the advice in Part 2:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/201 ... phone.html

You wait until the decision algorithms start nudging us in a particular direction (choices) and we don't realize it because it is so subtle. We will be nudged to make a choice, but believe the choice was ours.

Or wait until google can talk to a computer in your car and tell it to go 120 mph and kill the steering because you wrote something bad about the wrong people or company. (Michael Hastings tin foil hat theory).

kalm wrote:

SeattleGriz wrote:
You wait until the decision algorithms start nudging us in a particular direction (choices) and we don't realize it because it is so subtle. We will be nudged to make a choice, but believe the choice was ours.

Or wait until google can talk to a computer in your car and tell it to go 120 mph and kill the steering because you wrote something bad about the wrong people or company. (Michael Hastings tin foil hat theory).

I’ve got the failsafe for that one with no worries

66 Ford Falcon

(that’s a similar solution to not having a smartphone)


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mainejeff2 wrote:

kalm wrote:


Or wait until google can talk to a computer in your car and tell it to go 120 mph and kill the steering because you wrote something bad about the wrong people or company. (Michael Hastings tin foil hat theory).

Too bad guns couldn't have the same capabilities.

Guns don’t have computers in them....yet

Except the big ones.

kalm wrote:

mainejeff2 wrote:
Too bad guns couldn't have the same capabilities.

Guns don’t have computers in them....yet

Except the big ones.