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During the last two weeks I made the same rounds — a high-school football game at my alma mater, talks with Mexican American professionals, some rural farm events. Were those impressions three years ago hallucinations? Hardly. Trump support has, if anything, increased — and not just because of record low unemployment and an economy that has turned even my once-ossified rural community into a bustle of shopping, office-construction and home-building, with ‘Now Hiring’ signs commonplace. This time I noticed that my same friends always mentioned Trump in contrast to their damnation of California — the nearby ‘stupid’ high-speed rail to nowhere, the staged power shutoffs, the drought-stricken dead trees left untouched in flammable forests, the tens of thousands of homeless even in San Jose, Fresno and Sacramento, the sky-high gas prices, the deadly decrepit roads, the latest illegal-alien felon shielded from ICE. Whatever Trump was, my friends saw him as the opposite of where California is now headed. His combativeness was again not a liability but a plus — especially when it was at the expense of snooty white liberals. ‘He drives them crazy,’ Steve, my friend from second grade, offered..............

When I talked to a Central Valley Rotary Club in November 2016, I assumed on arrival that such doctrinaire Republicans would be establishment Never Trumpers. But few were then. When I returned this week to speak again, I found that none are now. These businesspeople, lawyers, accountants and educators talked of the money-making economy. But I sensed, as with my hometown friends, that same something else. There was an edge in their voices, an amplification of earlier fury at Hillary’s condescension and put-down of deplorables. ‘Anything he dishes out, they deserve,’ one man in a tailored suit remarked, channeling my grade-school friend Steve. I take it by that he meant he and his friends are frequently embarrassed by Trump’s crudity — but not nearly so much as they are enraged by the sanctimoniousness of an Adam Schiff or the smug ‘bombshell’ monotony of media anchors

kalm wrote:Trump support has, if anything, increased — and not just because of record low unemployment and an economy that has turned even my once-ossified rural community into a bustle of shopping, office-construction and home-building, with ‘Now Hiring’ signs commonplace. This time I noticed that my same friends always mentioned Trump in contrast to their damnation of California — the nearby ‘stupid’ high-speed rail to nowhere, the staged power shutoffs, the drought-stricken dead trees left untouched in flammable forests, the tens of thousands of homeless even in San Jose, Fresno and Sacramento, the sky-high gas prices, the deadly decrepit roads, the latest illegal-alien felon shielded from ICE. Whatever Trump was, my friends saw him as the opposite of where California is now headed. His combativeness was again not a liability but a plus — especially when it was at the expense of snooty white liberals. ‘He drives them crazy,’ Steve, my friend from second grade, offered..............

93henfan wrote:I love how many people didn't vote for Trump in 2016.

He's the internet porn of Presidents. Because, ya know, nobody looks at internet porn either.

AZGrizFan wrote:

93henfan wrote:I love how many people didn't vote for Trump in 2016.

He's the internet porn of Presidents. Because, ya know, nobody looks at internet porn either.

I've been very transparent about who I voted for.

Chizzang wrote:And where is the $4,000 each household Trump promised us from his massive tax cut that benefited corporations and the wealthy enacted in 2017?!

It didn’t trickle down to us, it stayed in the corporate board room with Trump’s big donors.
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-mete ... lthiest-1/

As the Congressional Research Service found recently, Trump’s tax cut resulted in corporate profits that “grew faster than wages" and worse, "ordinary workers had zero growth in wage rates."

The real-world result is that wage growth in virtually non-existent. In 2019, after you subtract inflation of nearly 2 percent, the average American worker will see a net wage increase of slightly over 1 percent. One percent!

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-tax-cuts ... ty-1464048

93henfan wrote:I love how many people didn't vote for Trump in 2016.

He's the internet porn of Presidents. Because, ya know, nobody looks at internet porn either.

AZGrizFan wrote:
For me it's different. I didn't vote for him in 2016. But I will in 2020 (at least it's looking that way, considering the direction the Donk field is headed) DESPITE the "combativeness". But its because of the FIRST sentence (and a number of other positives), and in SPITE of the last sentence.

Ibanez wrote:With the exception of one sister, most of my family are 100% "Republican".

Ibanez wrote: On the night of the impeachment, my sister, brother in law and I watched the House vote. They are the most likely to be centrist in our family and have pretty much written off Trump. Mom told me that she'll vote for a Dem in 2020, for the first time ever.

CAA Flagship wrote:

Ibanez wrote: On the night of the impeachment, my sister, brother in law and I watched the House vote. They are the most likely to be centrist in our family and have pretty much written off Trump. Mom told me that she'll vote for a Dem in 2020, for the first time ever.

Were there any reasons given? Is it because they agree with the policies of the Donks over the Conks?

Ivytalk wrote:My own anti-Left feelings are much stronger now than they were in 2016. I will never vote for a Democrat for elective office again, even if that candidate is unopposed. In the latter case, I will write in 89Hen.

89Hen wrote:

Ibanez wrote:With the exception of one sister, most of my family are 100% "Republican".

You're excluding yourself too, correct?

Ivytalk wrote:My own anti-Left feelings are much stronger now than they were in 2016. I will never vote for a Democrat for elective office again, even if that candidate is unopposed. In the latter case, I will write in 89Hen.

Ibanez wrote:

Ivytalk wrote:My own anti-Left feelings are much stronger now than they were in 2016. I will never vote for a Democrat for elective office again, even if that candidate is unopposed. In the latter case, I will write in 89Hen.

True Story - Dad voted in every election and whenever he didn't like either candidate, he would write in his mothers name.

Ibanez wrote:

93henfan wrote:I love how many people didn't vote for Trump in 2016.

He's the internet porn of Presidents. Because, ya know, nobody looks at internet porn either.

My vote doesn't' matter. York County will go for Trump.

93henfan wrote:

Ibanez wrote:

My vote doesn't' matter. York County will go for Trump.

None of our votes matter unless we relocate to MI, PA or WI before November.

GannonFan wrote:Voted Jill Stein last time as a true protest vote

Ivytalk wrote:My own anti-Left feelings are much stronger now than they were in 2016. I will never vote for a Democrat for elective office again, even if that candidate is unopposed. In the latter case, I will write in 89Hen.

89Hen wrote:

GannonFan wrote:Voted Jill Stein last time as a true protest vote

Great if it made you feel better but it's hardly a "protest".