kalm wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2020 3:55 pm
Atlanta is at 100% of ICU capacity. Georgia, Mass, Michigan, and NJ are at wildfire status. Population density is a major driver. Rationing of ICU beds is starting in hard hit areas.
Why is Atlanta maxed out? They have barely 1,000 cases of coronavirus in the whole state of Georgia, that's nothing compared to other states.
Answered my own question, apparently Georgia in on the low side when it comes to hospitals, especially those with ICU beds. Heck, West Virginia looks to have more ICU beds than Georgia does, how does that happen?
I hope they can move some of the critical people to Augusta. Augusta actually has the most sophisticated medical facilities in the state, Atlanta's suck.
Pwns wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 7:42 am
I hope they can move some of the critical people to Augusta. Augusta actually has the most sophisticated medical facilities in the state, Atlanta's suck.
My cousin graduated last year as an MD from the Medical College of Ga in Augusta, he said he was surprised by that as well. His sister, a resident at Emory agrees. I would think Atl would have top notch facilities with Emory being there.
-Publication of corporate pay statistics by race and race statistics for all corporate boards
-A bail out on all current debt at the Postal Service
-Required early voting
-Required same day voter registration
-Provisions on official time for union collective bargaining
-Full offset of airline emissions by 2025
-Publication and reporting of greenhouse gas statistics for individual flights
-Retirement plans for community newspaper employees
-Federal $15 minimum wage
-Permanent paid leave
What the hell does most of this have to do with getting through the pandemic?
I think donks are going to pay a political price for this.
And Pelosi caved. After holding up the package for 3 days, and conks standing firm, she got none her of add on Marxist, Green New Deal wish list..(the above list was only part of it). And it wasn't Schumer who pushed for the above. With NY getting hammered, he probably told that old hag this hill wasn't worth dying on. Trump and the American people won on this one...
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What the hell does most of this have to do with getting through the pandemic?
I think donks are going to pay a political price for this.
And Pelosi caved. After holding up the package for 3 days, and conks standing firm, she got none her of add on Marxist, Green New Deal wish list..(the above list was only part of it). And it wasn't Schumer who pushed for the above. With NY getting hammered, he probably told that old hag this hill wasn't worth dying on. Trump and the American people won on this one...
The American people won if they put in stipulations and didn't give Munchkin free reign on how the money is distributed. Otherwise the American people did ok but Trump and his cronies will be the big winners.
Being wrong about a topic is called post partisanism - kalm
Here's Jerry Nadler's contribution to the Coronavirus bill: $4 billion for NYC museums, which shouldn't even be open at this time. Fuck people in flyover country trying to pay rent, mortgage payments and buy food.
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
- Thomas Jefferson, in letter to William S. Smith, 1787
CitadelGrad wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:55 am
Here's Jerry Nadler's contribution to the Coronavirus bill: $4 billion for NYC museums, which shouldn't even be open at this time. Fuck people in flyover country trying to pay rent, mortgage payments and buy food.
Just got word somebody in my office tested positive last night. Their last trip to the office was 14 days ago, so no way of knowing if they had it then.
89Hen wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 1:45 pm
Just got word somebody in my office tested positive last night. Their last trip to the office was 14 days ago, so no way of knowing if they had it then.
89Hen wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 1:45 pm
Just got word somebody in my office tested positive last night. Their last trip to the office was 14 days ago, so no way of knowing if they had it then.
That sucks. So are you going to self quarantine?
No, going to a MAGA rally tonight. Might stop by the abortion clinic on the way.
A good and sobering read on taking this seriously. Again this is what all of the experts I’ve read are saying and I have some pretty damn good sources beyond the msm. I also think it’s what CID has been implying all along.
Unless you can provide contrary observations and data from credible sources (and I sincerely would love to see it as it would mean we are in fact overreacting) STFU.
Second, although social distancing measures have been (at least temporarily) well-received, there is an obvious-but-overlooked phenomenon when considering groups (i.e. families) in transmission dynamics. While social distancing decreases contact with members of society, it of course increases your contacts with group (i.e. family) members. This small and obvious fact has surprisingly profound implications on disease transmission dynamics. Study after study demonstrates that even if there is only a little bit of connection between groups (i.e. social dinners, playdates/playgrounds, etc.), the epidemic isn’t much different than if there was no measure in place. The same underlying fundamentals of disease transmission apply, and the result is that the community is left with all of the social and economic disruption but very little public health benefit. You should perceive your entire family to function as a single individual unit; if one person puts themselves at risk, everyone in the unit is at risk. Seemingly small social chains get large and complex with alarming speed. If your son visits his girlfriend, and you later sneak over for coffee with a neighbor, your neighbor is now connected to the infected office worker that your son’s girlfriend’s mother shook hands with. This sounds silly, it’s not. This is not a joke or a hypothetical. We as epidemiologists see it borne out in the data time and time again and no one listens. Conversely, any break in that chain breaks disease transmission along that chain.
In contrast to hand-washing and other personal measures, social distancing measures are not about individuals, they are about societies working in unison. These measures also take a long time to see the results. It is hard (even for me) to conceptualize how on a population level ‘one quick little get together’ can undermine the entire framework of a public health intervention, but it does. I promise you it does. I promise. I promise. I promise. You can’t cheat it. People are already itching to cheat on the social distancing precautions just a “little”- a playdate, a haircut, or picking up a needless item at the store, etc. From a transmission dynamics standpoint, this very quickly recreates a highly connected social network that undermines all of the work the community has done so far.
Until we get a viable vaccine this unprecedented outbreak will not be overcome in one grand, sweeping gesture, rather only by the collection of individual choices our community makes in the coming months. This virus is unforgiving to unwise choices. My goal in writing this is to prevent communities from getting ‘sucker-punched’ by what the epidemiological community knows will happen in the coming weeks. It will be easy to be drawn to the idea that what we are doing isn’t working and become paralyzed by fear, or to ‘cheat’ a little bit in the coming weeks. By knowing what to expect, and knowing the importance of maintaining these measures, my hope is to encourage continued community spirit, strategizing, and action to persevere in this time of uncertainty.
I’m not sure if anything like this has been posted, so it its a repeat, forgive me...
Subject: Best Explanation of the Coronavirus yet
This was written by an Associate Professor of Microbiology, Immunology & Parasitology LSU School of Medicine
Feeling confused as to why Coronavirus is a bigger deal than Seasonal flu? Here it is in a nutshell. I hope this helps. Feel free to share this with others who don’t understand. Otherwise, you
may have to use a hammer.
It has to do with RNA sequencing.... i.e.: genetics.
Seasonal flu is an “all human virus”. The DNA/RNA chains that make up the virus are recognized by the human immune system.
This means that your body has some immunity to it before it comes around each year. You get immunity two ways... through exposure to a virus, or by getting a flu shot.
Novel viruses, come from animals... the WHO ( World Health Org.) tracks novel viruses in animals, (sometimes for years watching for mutations). Usually these viruses only transfer from animal to animal (pigs in the case of H1N1) (birds in the case of the Spanish flu).
But once, one of these animal viruses mutates, and starts to transfer from animals to humans... then it’s a problem, Why? Because we have no natural or acquired immunity… the RNA sequencing of the genes inside the virus isn’t human, and the human immune system doesn’t recognize it so, we can’t fight it off.
Now... sometimes, the mutation only allows transfer from animal to human, for years it’s only transmission is from an infected animal to a human before it finally mutates so that it can now transfer human to human... once that happens… we have a new contagion phase.
And depending on the fashion of this new mutation, that’s what decides how contagious, or how deadly it’s going to be.
H1N1 was deadly.... but it did not mutate in a way that was as deadly as the Spanish flu. It’s RNA was slower to mutate and it attacked its host differently, too.
Fast forward.
Now, here comes this Coronavirus... it existed in animals only, for nobody knows how long... but one day, at an animal market, in Wuhan China, in December 2019, it mutated and made the jump from animal to people.
At first, only animals could give it to a person... But here is the scary part.... in just TWO WEEKS it mutated again and gained the ability to jump from human to human. Scientists call this quick ability, “slippery.”
This Coronavirus, not being in any form a “human” virus (whereas we would all have some natural or acquired immunity), took off like a rocket. And this was because humans have no known immunity... doctors have no known medicines for it.
And it just so happens that this particular mutated animal virus changed itself in such a way that it causes great damage to human lungs.
That’s why Coronavirus is different from seasonal flu, or H1N1 or any other type of influenza.... this one is very slippery. And it’s a lung eater... And, it’s already mutated AGAIN, so that we now have two strains to deal with, strain S, and strain L.... which makes it twice as hard to develop a vaccine.
We really have no tools in our shed with this. History has shown that fast and immediate closings of public places has helped in past pandemics. Philadelphia and Baltimore were reluctant to close events in 1918 and they were the hardest hit in the US during the Spanish Flu.
And let me end by saying.... right now it’s hitting older folks harder... but this genome is so slippery... if it mutates again (and it will). who is to say what it will do next.
Be smart folks... acting like you’re unafraid is so not sexy right now. Stay home as much as you can for now... and share this to those that just are not catching on.
“Tolerance and Apathy are the last virtues of a dying society.” Aristotle
Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem.
