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Nooooow you’re getting it....
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Trending in the wrong direction again for many states. You can lump Montucky and Idablo in with the Midwest. Texas is back over 4,000/day. And yes, this includes hospitalizations and deaths...
https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2020/ ... YETkRDh-rE
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Flu deaths should start showing up soon.
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Cause of death to be listed as the China Virus..
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The most recent re-enforcement of something that's been said before:
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02801-8
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02801-8
The science supports that face coverings are saving lives during the coronavirus pandemic, and yet the debate trundles on. How much evidence is enough?
To be clear, the science supports using masks, with recent studies suggesting that they could save lives in different ways: research shows that they cut down the chances of both transmitting and catching the coronavirus, and some studies hint that masks might reduce the severity of infection if people do contract the disease.
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It'll be same as it ever was. If the disease is judged to be a factor in a death the death will be listed as associated with that disease. If someone has both the flu and COVID-19 and both are judged be factors I expect that the death will be listed as both a flu associated death and a COVID-19 associated death. But I also really don't expect that to happen much.
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Or...we have had a shot ton of flu deaths throughout this year.JohnStOnge wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:22 pmIt'll be same as it ever was. If the disease is judged to be a factor in a death the death will be listed as associated with that disease. If someone has both the flu and COVID-19 and both are judged be factors I expect that the death will be listed as both a flu associated death and a COVID-19 associated death. But I also really don't expect that to happen much.
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Texas’ 7-day moving average for cases is at 3852, down from 4246 on 9/15 and 10,766 on 7/15.kalm wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:16 am Trending in the wrong direction again for many states. You can lump Montucky and Idablo in with the Midwest. Texas is back over 4,000/day. And yes, this includes hospitalizations and deaths...
https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2020/ ... YETkRDh-rE
Texas 7-day moving average for deaths is at 82, down from 110 on 9/16 and 276 on 8/4.
Go peddle that Fear monger shit somewhere else.
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We should just do like Obama did and stop testing for H1N1. There. New case count drops to zero.AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:41 pmTexas’ 7-day moving average for cases is at 3852, down from 4246 on 9/15 and 10,766 on 7/15.kalm wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:16 am Trending in the wrong direction again for many states. You can lump Montucky and Idablo in with the Midwest. Texas is back over 4,000/day. And yes, this includes hospitalizations and deaths...
https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2020/ ... YETkRDh-rE
Texas 7-day moving average for deaths is at 82, down from 110 on 9/16 and 276 on 8/4.
Go peddle that Fear monger shit somewhere else.
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Well this article focused on midwest states and while Texas has moved the needle down at times even below 2,000 new cases it was rising back up this week and was over 4,000 yesterday.AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:41 pmTexas’ 7-day moving average for cases is at 3852, down from 4246 on 9/15 and 10,766 on 7/15.kalm wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:16 am Trending in the wrong direction again for many states. You can lump Montucky and Idablo in with the Midwest. Texas is back over 4,000/day. And yes, this includes hospitalizations and deaths...
https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2020/ ... YETkRDh-rE
Texas 7-day moving average for deaths is at 82, down from 110 on 9/16 and 276 on 8/4.
Go peddle that Fear monger shit somewhere else.
It’s been apparent since March that our chosen path of half asking it insures a rollercoaster ride. What goes along with that is a slower economic recovery. So congrats I guess.
Hopefully we dodge a bullet with the flu season.
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Yeah, because new cases aren’t reported on weekends, so the number dips down, then goes back up to the same range during the week. Not sure what you’re talking about “rising back up”. And many, many states are seeing recoveries that are just fine. Because they’re not fear mongers. Texas, Colorado & Utah (the three states my company does business in) ALL have unemployment rates lower than the national average, and in some cases, significantly below. The thing keeping the recovery “slow” is the states who remain closed down when closing down hasn’t proven to accomplish a thing except increase government dependence.kalm wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 5:54 amWell this article focused on midwest states and while Texas has moved the needle down at times even below 2,000 new cases it was rising back up this week and was over 4,000 yesterday.
It’s been apparent since March that our chosen path of half asking it insures a rollercoaster ride.
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And UK, Italy, Spain, Germany, etc., etc., all are experiencing spikes in cases....without corresponding increases in deaths. But reporting “case numbers” without adjusting for testing rate is another fear-mongering tactic. Let’s face it....the vulnerable have died, for the most part. And there was literally nothing that could have been done, because the infection was here and spreading before anybody knew it. Now the death rates DO mirror the flu....(and that’s assuming you actually believe the test results, which are circumspect, at best).kalm wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 5:54 amWell this article focused on midwest states and while Texas has moved the needle down at times even below 2,000 new cases it was rising back up this week and was over 4,000 yesterday.
It’s been apparent since March that our chosen path of half asking it insures a rollercoaster ride. What goes along with that is a slower economic recovery. So congrats I guess.
Hopefully we dodge a bullet with the flu season.
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Texas numbers have been consistently rising lately (except for yesterday).AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 9:05 amYeah, because new cases aren’t reported on weekends, so the number dips down, then goes back up to the same range during the week. Not sure what you’re talking about “rising back up”. And many, many states are seeing recoveries that are just fine. Because they’re not fear mongers. Texas, Colorado & Utah (the three states my company does business in) ALL have unemployment rates lower than the national average, and in some cases, significantly below. The thing keeping the recovery “slow” is the states who remain closed down when closing down hasn’t proven to accomplish a thing except increase government dependence.kalm wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 5:54 am
Well this article focused on midwest states and while Texas has moved the needle down at times even below 2,000 new cases it was rising back up this week and was over 4,000 yesterday.
It’s been apparent since March that our chosen path of half asking it insures a rollercoaster ride.
You know who else has seen a recovery? Germany.
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Death rates are driven by cases and therapeutics.AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 9:25 amAnd UK, Italy, Spain, Germany, etc., etc., all are experiencing spikes in cases....without corresponding increases in deaths. But reporting “case numbers” without adjusting for testing rate is another fear-mongering tactic. Let’s face it....the vulnerable have died, for the most part. And there was literally nothing that could have been done, because the infection was here and spreading before anybody knew it. Now the death rates DO mirror the flu....(and that’s assuming you actually believe the test results, which are circumspect, at best).kalm wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 5:54 am
Well this article focused on midwest states and while Texas has moved the needle down at times even below 2,000 new cases it was rising back up this week and was over 4,000 yesterday.
It’s been apparent since March that our chosen path of half asking it insures a rollercoaster ride. What goes along with that is a slower economic recovery. So congrats I guess.
Hopefully we dodge a bullet with the flu season.
Places that are handling it well are able to because they got the number down to a point where outbreaks can be quickly isolated and regionalized better and they are able to handle short term spikes in hospitalizations. We can’t even manage them effectively in our own seat of government.
In other words, it’s being proven what could have been done in places all over the world.
You were wrong back in March but you’re at least trying to get better at it now.
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I’d love to see your source for Texas. Because I believe you’re incorrect.kalm wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:04 amTexas numbers have been consistently rising lately (except for yesterday).AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 9:05 am
Yeah, because new cases aren’t reported on weekends, so the number dips down, then goes back up to the same range during the week. Not sure what you’re talking about “rising back up”. And many, many states are seeing recoveries that are just fine. Because they’re not fear mongers. Texas, Colorado & Utah (the three states my company does business in) ALL have unemployment rates lower than the national average, and in some cases, significantly below. The thing keeping the recovery “slow” is the states who remain closed down when closing down hasn’t proven to accomplish a thing except increase government dependence.
You know who else has seen a recovery? Germany.
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I get the daily numbers from state DOH but here’s a 7 day average from the same source. Bottomed out in Sep., slightly rising again along with deaths. I think there was one day recently where the case count dipped below 2000 which made me take notice but it’s now inching back up toward 4,000.
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WHO doctor says lockdowns should not be main coronavirus defence
Recent commentary from the World Health Organization's (WHO) special envoy on COVID-19 has sparked questions about the legitimacy of lockdowns to stop the spread of coronavirus.
"We in the World Health Organization do not advocate lockdowns as the primary means of control of this virus."
This statement from Dr David Nabarro has also prompted questions about whether the WHO has backflipped on its advice, months after the pandemic was declared.
Dr Nabarro told The Spectator the economic impact on small countries that rely on tourism and increased poverty levels are two major effects of shutting communities down.
"We really do appeal to all world leaders, stop using lockdown as your primary method of control," he said.
"Lockdowns have just one consequence that you must never ever belittle, and that is making poor people an awful lot poorer."
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-12/ ... e/12753688
Recent commentary from the World Health Organization's (WHO) special envoy on COVID-19 has sparked questions about the legitimacy of lockdowns to stop the spread of coronavirus.
"We in the World Health Organization do not advocate lockdowns as the primary means of control of this virus."
This statement from Dr David Nabarro has also prompted questions about whether the WHO has backflipped on its advice, months after the pandemic was declared.
Dr Nabarro told The Spectator the economic impact on small countries that rely on tourism and increased poverty levels are two major effects of shutting communities down.
"We really do appeal to all world leaders, stop using lockdown as your primary method of control," he said.
"Lockdowns have just one consequence that you must never ever belittle, and that is making poor people an awful lot poorer."
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-12/ ... e/12753688
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Define “lockdown”.HI54UNI wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 5:44 am WHO doctor says lockdowns should not be main coronavirus defence
Recent commentary from the World Health Organization's (WHO) special envoy on COVID-19 has sparked questions about the legitimacy of lockdowns to stop the spread of coronavirus.
"We in the World Health Organization do not advocate lockdowns as the primary means of control of this virus."
This statement from Dr David Nabarro has also prompted questions about whether the WHO has backflipped on its advice, months after the pandemic was declared.
Dr Nabarro told The Spectator the economic impact on small countries that rely on tourism and increased poverty levels are two major effects of shutting communities down.
"We really do appeal to all world leaders, stop using lockdown as your primary method of control," he said.
"Lockdowns have just one consequence that you must never ever belittle, and that is making poor people an awful lot poorer."
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-12/ ... e/12753688
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Why don't you ask the doctor? nabarroWHO@gmail.comkalm wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 5:54 amDefine “lockdown”.HI54UNI wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 5:44 am WHO doctor says lockdowns should not be main coronavirus defence
Recent commentary from the World Health Organization's (WHO) special envoy on COVID-19 has sparked questions about the legitimacy of lockdowns to stop the spread of coronavirus.
"We in the World Health Organization do not advocate lockdowns as the primary means of control of this virus."
This statement from Dr David Nabarro has also prompted questions about whether the WHO has backflipped on its advice, months after the pandemic was declared.
Dr Nabarro told The Spectator the economic impact on small countries that rely on tourism and increased poverty levels are two major effects of shutting communities down.
"We really do appeal to all world leaders, stop using lockdown as your primary method of control," he said.
"Lockdowns have just one consequence that you must never ever belittle, and that is making poor people an awful lot poorer."
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-12/ ... e/12753688
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You posted it.
I think he might be right depending on more details.
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kalm wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 5:54 amDefine “lockdown”.HI54UNI wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 5:44 am WHO doctor says lockdowns should not be main coronavirus defence
Recent commentary from the World Health Organization's (WHO) special envoy on COVID-19 has sparked questions about the legitimacy of lockdowns to stop the spread of coronavirus.
"We in the World Health Organization do not advocate lockdowns as the primary means of control of this virus."
This statement from Dr David Nabarro has also prompted questions about whether the WHO has backflipped on its advice, months after the pandemic was declared.
Dr Nabarro told The Spectator the economic impact on small countries that rely on tourism and increased poverty levels are two major effects of shutting communities down.
"We really do appeal to all world leaders, stop using lockdown as your primary method of control," he said.
"Lockdowns have just one consequence that you must never ever belittle, and that is making poor people an awful lot poorer."
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-12/ ... e/12753688
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