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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:24 pm
by Gil Dobie
Winterborn wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 2:03 pm
SDHornet wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:04 am


Hospitalization numbers?
64 active hospitalizations plus 25 of which are in the ICU, for a total of 89 COVID active hospitalizations in the state. There are 1721 non-ICU beds in the state (64 are being used for COVID, 1346 non-COVID), 289 ICU beds (25 are being used for COVID, 121 non-COVID). Average length of hospitalization is 8.06 days.

We have had 219 deaths so far (Total population is 762,062). A 135 are 80+, 42 are 70-79, 23 are 60-69, 10 are 50-59, 7 are 40-49, 1 is 30-39, and 1 is 20-29.

ND has a very good dashboard put on with PowrBI. Takes a bit to load but you can slice and dice the numbers or drill down as deep as you want.

https://www.health.nd.gov/diseases-cond ... irus-cases
A little less than half as many active cases as Minnesota, with approx 1/8 the population of Minnesota.

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:30 pm
by Winterborn
Gil Dobie wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:24 pm
Winterborn wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 2:03 pm


64 active hospitalizations plus 25 of which are in the ICU, for a total of 89 COVID active hospitalizations in the state. There are 1721 non-ICU beds in the state (64 are being used for COVID, 1346 non-COVID), 289 ICU beds (25 are being used for COVID, 121 non-COVID). Average length of hospitalization is 8.06 days.

We have had 219 deaths so far (Total population is 762,062). A 135 are 80+, 42 are 70-79, 23 are 60-69, 10 are 50-59, 7 are 40-49, 1 is 30-39, and 1 is 20-29.

ND has a very good dashboard put on with PowrBI. Takes a bit to load but you can slice and dice the numbers or drill down as deep as you want.

https://www.health.nd.gov/diseases-cond ... irus-cases
A little less than half as many active cases as Minnesota, with approx 1/8 the population of Minnesota.
It was bound to happen sooner or later as every area goes through either 1 big spike or a couple of smaller ones. As long as the hospitalizations stay low (this seems to be a younger age group testing positive as well), there isn't a need to worry and there is plenty of reserve available. Everybody will get it before this is "declared" over.

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:08 pm
by Skjellyfetti
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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:31 pm
by Gil Dobie
Skjellyfetti wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:08 pm
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FCS football should be rolling at that time.

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 5:50 am
by CAA Flagship
Winterborn wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:30 pm
Gil Dobie wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:24 pm


A little less than half as many active cases as Minnesota, with approx 1/8 the population of Minnesota.
It was bound to happen sooner or later as every area goes through either 1 big spike or a couple of smaller ones. As long as the hospitalizations stay low (this seems to be a younger age group testing positive as well), there isn't a need to worry and there is plenty of reserve available. Everybody will get it before this is "declared" over.
Yes, of course. It's a matter of finding the balance between virus and economy. Nobody, knew where that balance is back in March, and still don't today. Human behavior is difficult to predict. The shutdowns were effective because people were scared. Now they are bored and not as afraid, and willing to take risks to offset economic pain. The "balance" is a moving target and fluctuations will happen in the data (both health and economic) as adjustments are made.

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 11:06 am
by BDKJMU
Common sense prevails in Florida. :nod:
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signed an executive order Friday allowing restaurants and bars to immediately begin operating at 100% capacity.

The move means the state is transitioning into Phase 3 of reopening. The order treats restaurants and bars differently in terms of what local municipalities can do to restrict operations.

“There will not be limitations, from the state of Florida,” he said.

DeSantis said he fully expects the state to host a “full Super Bowl” in February. The Super Bowl is scheduled to be held in Tampa Bay on February 7, 2021, according to the event’s website.

“We expect to do a full Super Bowl and we’re going to show that we’re going to be able to do that,” he said.

DeSantis’ order says no Covid-19 emergency ordinance can prevent a person from working or from operating a business. Local governments are unable to limit restaurants to less than 50% capacity under DeSantis’ new order, even with local government Covid-19 emergency orders.

If a local government Covid-19 emergency order limiting restaurant to less than 100% of its indoor capacity but above 50%, the government must explain why the limitation is necessary for public health and quantify the economic impact of the limits.

“If a local (government) restricts between 50 and 100, they’ve got to provide the justification and they’ve got to identify what the costs are involved with doing that are,” DeSantis said....

....DeSantis, in "an act of executive grace," also suspended "all outstanding fines and penalties that have been applied against individuals" associated with pandemic-related mandates, like mask requirements.

"I think we need to get away from trying to penalize people for social distancing," DeSantis said. "All these fines we're going to hold in abeyance and hope that we can move forward in a way that's more collaborative."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/flori ... r-BB19qvZO

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 5:11 am
by kalm
Montana is seeing a spike. 1000 cases over a 3-day period. Back to school, Labor Day, and late summer travel?

https://billingsgazette.com/news/local/ ... TJHDHFH1lc

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 6:33 am
by BDKJMU
kalm wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 5:11 am
Montana is seeing a spike. 1000 cases over a 3-day period. Back to school, Labor Day, and late summer travel?

https://billingsgazette.com/news/local/ ... TJHDHFH1lc
Heck, JMU had I think over 1k cases in a couple weeks before they closed school/sent everyone home, and last I heard, zero hospitalizations.

Cases don’t matter- its hospitalizations & deaths..

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 7:07 am
by kalm
BDKJMU wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 6:33 am
kalm wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 5:11 am
Montana is seeing a spike. 1000 cases over a 3-day period. Back to school, Labor Day, and late summer travel?

https://billingsgazette.com/news/local/ ... TJHDHFH1lc
Heck, JMU had I think over 1k cases in a couple weeks before they closed school/sent everyone home, and last I heard, zero hospitalizations.

Cases don’t matter- its hospitalizations & deaths..
Not a great comparison considering population density and social behavior.

Cases matter. So do therapeutic treatments, preventative measures like early detection and loading up on Vitamin D. Those drive hospitalizations and deaths down. Cases drive those same numbers up.

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 8:30 am
by Gil Dobie
kalm wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 7:07 am
BDKJMU wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 6:33 am

Heck, JMU had I think over 1k cases in a couple weeks before they closed school/sent everyone home, and last I heard, zero hospitalizations.

Cases don’t matter- its hospitalizations & deaths..
Not a great comparison considering population density and social behavior.

Cases matter. So do therapeutic treatments, preventative measures like early detection and loading up on Vitamin D. Those drive hospitalizations and deaths down. Cases drive those same numbers up.
Active cases is the way I would put it. Active cases around here have doubled recently, but still below the first round of covid.

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 8:51 am
by AZGrizFan
Active cases in Texas have been cut in half in the past 30 days.

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:39 am
by 89Hen
Is this still a thing?

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:57 am
by BDKJMU
89Hen wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:39 am
Is this still a thing?
Yes. Until Nov 4.

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:40 am
by kalm
BDKJMU wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:57 am
89Hen wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:39 am
Is this still a thing?
Yes. Until Nov 4.
We still know so little about it. Testing is questionable. Long term or at least lingering effects are still concerns...

Israel has had to shut back down almost completely.

We might not even be out of the first round yet.

The one optimistic part is improvement in treatments.

Very interesting read...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.gq.com ... esting/amp

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:33 am
by 89Hen
kalm wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:40 am
Very interesting read...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.gq.com ... esting/amp
Sorry GQ is blocked on my computer. Just like Rolling Stone and all your other big "news" sources.

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:09 pm
by kalm
89Hen wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:33 am
kalm wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:40 am
Very interesting read...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.gq.com ... esting/amp
Sorry GQ is blocked on my computer. Just like Rolling Stone and all your other big "news" sources.
The fact you think that’s a burn is funny. :lol:

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:44 pm
by Winterborn
kalm wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:40 am
BDKJMU wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:57 am

Yes. Until Nov 4.
We still know so little about it. Testing is questionable. Long term or at least lingering effects are still concerns...

Israel has had to shut back down almost completely.

We might not even be out of the first round yet.

The one optimistic part is improvement in treatments.

Very interesting read...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.gq.com ... esting/amp
She should write a book. :coffee:


And I agree that we don't know much, but what we do know is enough to make some good judgment calls. As for long term effects, I guess we will find out in 10+ years when we get to the "long" portion of long term. Probably around the same time we will find out the long term effects of a rushed/fast tracked "vaccine".

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:58 pm
by 89Hen
kalm wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:09 pm
89Hen wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:33 am


Sorry GQ is blocked on my computer. Just like Rolling Stone and all your other big "news" sources.
The fact you think that’s a burn is funny. :lol:
OK Trevor Noah.

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:55 pm
by kalm
89Hen wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:58 pm
kalm wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:09 pm


The fact you think that’s a burn is funny. :lol:
OK Trevor Noah.
Well I’m guessing that’s another sick burn but I haven’t watched the Daily Show since Stewart left so I’ll just trust you’re awesome judgement. I’m rooting for ya, Champ!

:lol:

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:55 pm
by kalm
Winterborn wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:44 pm
kalm wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:40 am


We still know so little about it. Testing is questionable. Long term or at least lingering effects are still concerns...

Israel has had to shut back down almost completely.

We might not even be out of the first round yet.

The one optimistic part is improvement in treatments.

Very interesting read...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.gq.com ... esting/amp
She should write a book. :coffee:


And I agree that we don't know much, but what we do know is enough to make some good judgment calls. As for long term effects, I guess we will find out in 10+ years when we get to the "long" portion of long term. Probably around the same time we will find out the long term effects of a rushed/fast tracked "vaccine".
Thank you for proving the point.

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:58 pm
by Winterborn
kalm wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:55 pm
Winterborn wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:44 pm


She should write a book. :coffee:


And I agree that we don't know much, but what we do know is enough to make some good judgment calls. As for long term effects, I guess we will find out in 10+ years when we get to the "long" portion of long term. Probably around the same time we will find out the long term effects of a rushed/fast tracked "vaccine".
Thank you for proving the point.
What point is that?

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:58 pm
by 89Hen
kalm wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:55 pm
89Hen wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:58 pm

OK Trevor Noah.
Well I’m guessing that’s another sick burn but I haven’t watched the Daily Show since Stewart left so I’ll just trust you’re awesome judgement. I’m rooting for ya, Champ!

:lol:
I am awesome judgement? You said it brother. :thumb:

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:31 pm
by kalm
Winterborn wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:58 pm
kalm wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:55 pm


Thank you for proving the point.
What point is that?
We still don’t know much about and it’s short term and long effects.

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:32 pm
by kalm
89Hen wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:58 pm
kalm wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:55 pm


Well I’m guessing that’s another sick burn but I haven’t watched the Daily Show since Stewart left so I’ll just trust you’re awesome judgement. I’m rooting for ya, Champ!

:lol:
I am awesome judgement? You said it brother. :thumb:
Yes...yes you are.

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:53 pm
by JohnStOnge
Six months ago I was hoping this thing is seasonal. I think there have been some indications that it is to some extent. Now I am hoping that it is not. If it is, we could be about to be whacked really hard.