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Donald Trump gaffe and verbal bungles watch
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Was one of the sources Alexander Vindman?
My unnamed sources stated that Lauren Jobs forced The Atlantic writer to fabricate the story.
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Et tu, Fox News?SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 8:11 pmWas one of the sources Alexander Vindman?
My unnamed sources stated that Lauren Jobs forced The Atlantic writer to fabricate the story.
Sounds like Rupert is about to break it off in the Donald's ample ass...
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Re: Donald Trump gaffe and verbal bungles watch
And WaPo and NYT all verify with their own sources.houndawg wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 3:27 amEt tu, Fox News?SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 8:11 pm
Was one of the sources Alexander Vindman?
My unnamed sources stated that Lauren Jobs forced The Atlantic writer to fabricate the story.
Sounds like Rupert is about to break it off in the Donald's ample ass...
But yeah...it’s all an unbelievable fabrication. Trump would never say anything like that!
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How could he after experiencing the horror of the Battle of Covfefe?
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Not seeing this yet. In fact, don't even seen the story on MSNBC or CNN front page.
edit... it's actually at the very bottom of the MSNBC page... an opinion piece with elected Dems who are veterans. So no bias there.
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It’s everywhere and three days old now. It doesn’t matter to his supporters anyway.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newswe ... 07%3famp=1
https://www.google.com/amp/s/nymag.com/ ... utees.html
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Fox news admitted months ago they were moving more towards the center. They gain more viewers and retain their current ones, as they really are the only right of center media.houndawg wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 3:27 amEt tu, Fox News?SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 8:11 pm
Was one of the sources Alexander Vindman?
My unnamed sources stated that Lauren Jobs forced The Atlantic writer to fabricate the story.
Sounds like Rupert is about to break it off in the Donald's ample ass...
Smart move to increase viewership.
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The way Trump has consistently disparaged soldiers and veterans in public, there's no reason to believe the Atlantic story or its corroborators are lying. I'm sure Trump's worse behind the scenes, and I find no reason to give a pathological liar the benefit of doubt.
But kalm is right; it doesn't matter to his supporters. They'll continue defending a man that doesn't give a shit about anything but himself. Sad how some idolize flesh and blood and bow down to other humans. Even sadder they'd choose Trump as that human.
But kalm is right; it doesn't matter to his supporters. They'll continue defending a man that doesn't give a shit about anything but himself. Sad how some idolize flesh and blood and bow down to other humans. Even sadder they'd choose Trump as that human.
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It was just locker room talk.∞∞∞ wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 8:38 am The way Trump has consistently disparaged soldiers and veterans in public, there's no reason to believe the Atlantic story or its corroborators are lying. I'm sure Trump's worse behind the scenes, and I find no reason to give a pathological liar the benefit of doubt.
But kalm is right; it doesn't matter to his supporters. They'll continue defending a man that doesn't give a shit about anything but himself. Sad how some idolize flesh and blood and bow down to other humans. Even sadder they'd choose Trump as that human.
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'At worst'kalm wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 2:25 pmThe Atlantic is center left at worst. Reliable, well sourced and edited. But all sources should be viewed with skepticism.Baldy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 2:11 pm
If it were true, probably quite a few, but it wasn't. Now it just makes the magazine look bad...again.
"The Atlantic" does a fine job providing read meat for the people residing inside it's echo chamber. To you that is fine reporting, and there isn't anything wrong with it...
Take a look at the list of speakers for their "The Atlantic Festival" later this month.
https://www.theatlanticfestival.com/
Quite a nice list of far-left radicals.
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No kidding! I see radical written all over that bunch!Baldy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 9:12 am'At worst'
Take a look at the list of speakers for their "The Atlantic Festival" later this month.
https://www.theatlanticfestival.com/
Quite a nice list of far-left radicals.
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Of course you don't. They're all post-partisan moderates, just like you.kalm wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:58 amNo kidding! I see radical written all over that bunch!Baldy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 9:12 am
'At worst'
Take a look at the list of speakers for their "The Atlantic Festival" later this month.
https://www.theatlanticfestival.com/
Quite a nice list of far-left radicals.
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Dear leader would be proud of you.
Re: Donald Trump gaffe and verbal bungles watch
says Americans who died in war are "losers" and "suckers."
“Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers,”
called John McCain “a fucking loser” when asked to lower flags to half staff.
called President George H.W. Bush a loser for being shot down during WWII.
said “I don’t get it. What was in it for them?” To Gen. John Kelly — while visiting Kelly’s son’s grave at Arlington.
“That guy is smart. Why did he join the military?” re: Joint Chiefs of Staff, he said asked his staff to not include wounded veterans in events because amputees make him uncomfortable.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... rs/615997/
Trump defended Russia from arming the Taliban against US Troops, saying the US did that once
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-app ... -us-troops
Trump knew since Mar 2020 that Russia paid bounties to kill American troops, yet he has done nothing. he was briefed on options such as sanctions yet his admin has taken no action against russia for paying bounties for killing American and NATO troops.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/26/us/p ... nties.html
In May 2020, the White House was planning to end National Guard deployments one day before they could claim benefits, but after the massive public outcry, they backtracked and let Guard members continue on their orders.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/2 ... nts-272156
The Trump admin seized 5 million masks intended for VA hospitals. Kushner distributes these masks to private entities for a fee, who then sells the masks to the government
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump ... izing-ppe/
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/06/us/p ... plies.html
Trump's admin fired the captain of the USS Theodore Roosevelt after he warned superiors that COVID19 was spreading among his crew. The virus subsequently spread amongst the crew.
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronaviru ... rus-outbre
After Iran's retaliatory strike, 109 US troops suffered brain injuries. Trump dismissed these as "headaches" https://apnews.com/eabf6766d717a2dd518a3c6319bb2430
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/22/worl ... uries.html
Pardoned multiple war criminals, which stomped on long standing military values, discipline, and command. Trump has no military experience (May&Nov, 2019)
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pent ... mes-cases/
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/16/us/t ... itary.html
Trump mocked Lt. Col. Vindman for his rank and uniform. He threatened said purple heart officer, resulting in the Army providing him protection. Sent opposition research to the Pentagon to derail Lt. Col. Vindman's promotion
https://www.businessinsider.com/white-h ... ons-2020-7
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-g ... ng-2019-11
Trump’s Chief of Staff worked—in secret—to deny comprehensive health coverage to Vietnam Vets who suffered from Agent Orange.
https://www.militarytimes.com/pay-benef ... ents-show/
There is a facility in Tijuana for US veterans that Trump deported. Wounded war vet, Sen Duckworth (D) marked Veterans Day 2019 by visiting this facility
https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/de ... t-11390471
Russia took control of the main U.S. military facility in Syria abandoned on Trump’s orders. Russia now owns the airstrip we built
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-syri ... SKBN1XP0XN
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/15/worl ... urkey.html
On Oct 7, 2019, Trump abruptly withdrew support from America's allies in Syria after a phone call with Turkey's president (Erdogan). Turkey subsequently bombed US Special Forces.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/na ... -northern- syria-as-turkey-readies-offensive/2019/10/07/a965e466-e8b3-11e9-bafb-da248f8d5734_story.html https://www.npr.org/2019/10/07/76790458 ... ian-border
In Sept 2019, he made an Air Force cargo crew, flying from the U.S. to Kuwait stop in Scotland (where there's no U.S. base) to refuel at a commercial airport (where it costs more), so they could stay overnight at a Trump property (which isn't close to the airport). Trump’s golf courses are losing money, so he's forcing the military to pay for 5-star nights there.
https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your ... to-kuwait/
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/ ... at-1484337
In Sept, 2019, Pentagon pulled funds for military schools, military housing funds, and daycare to pay for Trump's border wall.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKCN1VP2VY
In Aug, 2019, emails revealed that three of Trump's Mar-a-Lago pals, who are now running Veterans Affairs, are rampant with meddling. "They had no experience in veterans affairs (none of them even served in the military) nor underwent any kind of approval process to serve as de facto managers. Yet, with Trump’s approval, they directed actions and criticized operations without any oversight. They wasted valuable staff time in hundreds of pages of communications and meetings, emails show. Emails reveal disdainful attitudes within the department to the trio’s meddling."
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/25/politics ... index.html
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/ ... rs-1676335
Trump instructed aides to seize private property some of which contain military service member remains.
https://apnews.com/ad6f6247154548c3b28db33ae6a5eae9
Trump told officials he would pardon them if they break the law by illegally seizing property.
https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/ ... all-pardon
Children of deployed US troops are no longer guaranteed citizenship. This includes US troops posted abroad for years at a time (August 28, 2019)
https://www.military.com/daily-news/201 ... nship.html
On Aug 2, 2019, Trump requisitioned military retirement funds towards border wall
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/milit ... rump-wall/
On July 31, 2019, Trump ordered the Navy rescind medals to prosecutors who were prosecuted war criminals
https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-nav ... seal-case/
https://www.npr.org/2019/08/01/74714422 ... ring-capti
Trump denied a U.S. Marine of 6 years entry into the United States for his citizenship interview (Reported July 17, 2019)
https://thehill.com/homenews/news/45322 ... -interview
https://www.pri.org/stories/2019-07-17/ ... -interview
Trump made the U.S. Navy Blue Angels violate ethics rules by having them fly at his July 4th political campaign event (July 4, 2019)
https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na- ... story.html
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/201 ... ation.html
Trump demanded US military chiefs stand next to him at 4th of July parade (reported July 2, 2019)
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/tr ... ar-AADJGbc
In June, 2019, Trump sent troops to the border to paint the fence
https://www.military.com/daily-news/201 ... -wall.html
Does not stand when the retreat bugle plays at the end of the day, continuous talking, and makes jokes about it "What a nice sound that is. Are they playing that for you [Sean Hannity] or me?" (Oct. 11 2017)
Trump attacks McCain: 'I like people who weren't captured' (July 18, 2015)
https://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/ ... red-120317
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Fake news. It doesn’t matter to the cult members∞∞∞ wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 5:50 pmsays Americans who died in war are "losers" and "suckers."
“Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers,”
called John McCain “a fucking loser” when asked to lower flags to half staff.
called President George H.W. Bush a loser for being shot down during WWII.
said “I don’t get it. What was in it for them?” To Gen. John Kelly — while visiting Kelly’s son’s grave at Arlington.
“That guy is smart. Why did he join the military?” re: Joint Chiefs of Staff, he said asked his staff to not include wounded veterans in events because amputees make him uncomfortable.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... rs/615997/
Trump defended Russia from arming the Taliban against US Troops, saying the US did that once
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-app ... -us-troops
Trump knew since Mar 2020 that Russia paid bounties to kill American troops, yet he has done nothing. he was briefed on options such as sanctions yet his admin has taken no action against russia for paying bounties for killing American and NATO troops.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/26/us/p ... nties.html
In May 2020, the White House was planning to end National Guard deployments one day before they could claim benefits, but after the massive public outcry, they backtracked and let Guard members continue on their orders.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/2 ... nts-272156
The Trump admin seized 5 million masks intended for VA hospitals. Kushner distributes these masks to private entities for a fee, who then sells the masks to the government
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump ... izing-ppe/
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/06/us/p ... plies.html
Trump's admin fired the captain of the USS Theodore Roosevelt after he warned superiors that COVID19 was spreading among his crew. The virus subsequently spread amongst the crew.
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronaviru ... rus-outbre
After Iran's retaliatory strike, 109 US troops suffered brain injuries. Trump dismissed these as "headaches" https://apnews.com/eabf6766d717a2dd518a3c6319bb2430
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/22/worl ... uries.html
Pardoned multiple war criminals, which stomped on long standing military values, discipline, and command. Trump has no military experience (May&Nov, 2019)
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pent ... mes-cases/
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/16/us/t ... itary.html
Trump mocked Lt. Col. Vindman for his rank and uniform. He threatened said purple heart officer, resulting in the Army providing him protection. Sent opposition research to the Pentagon to derail Lt. Col. Vindman's promotion
https://www.businessinsider.com/white-h ... ons-2020-7
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-g ... ng-2019-11
Trump’s Chief of Staff worked—in secret—to deny comprehensive health coverage to Vietnam Vets who suffered from Agent Orange.
https://www.militarytimes.com/pay-benef ... ents-show/
There is a facility in Tijuana for US veterans that Trump deported. Wounded war vet, Sen Duckworth (D) marked Veterans Day 2019 by visiting this facility
https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/de ... t-11390471
Russia took control of the main U.S. military facility in Syria abandoned on Trump’s orders. Russia now owns the airstrip we built
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-syri ... SKBN1XP0XN
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/15/worl ... urkey.html
On Oct 7, 2019, Trump abruptly withdrew support from America's allies in Syria after a phone call with Turkey's president (Erdogan). Turkey subsequently bombed US Special Forces.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/na ... -northern- syria-as-turkey-readies-offensive/2019/10/07/a965e466-e8b3-11e9-bafb-da248f8d5734_story.html https://www.npr.org/2019/10/07/76790458 ... ian-border
In Sept 2019, he made an Air Force cargo crew, flying from the U.S. to Kuwait stop in Scotland (where there's no U.S. base) to refuel at a commercial airport (where it costs more), so they could stay overnight at a Trump property (which isn't close to the airport). Trump’s golf courses are losing money, so he's forcing the military to pay for 5-star nights there.
https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your ... to-kuwait/
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/ ... at-1484337
In Sept, 2019, Pentagon pulled funds for military schools, military housing funds, and daycare to pay for Trump's border wall.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKCN1VP2VY
In Aug, 2019, emails revealed that three of Trump's Mar-a-Lago pals, who are now running Veterans Affairs, are rampant with meddling. "They had no experience in veterans affairs (none of them even served in the military) nor underwent any kind of approval process to serve as de facto managers. Yet, with Trump’s approval, they directed actions and criticized operations without any oversight. They wasted valuable staff time in hundreds of pages of communications and meetings, emails show. Emails reveal disdainful attitudes within the department to the trio’s meddling."
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/25/politics ... index.html
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/ ... rs-1676335
Trump instructed aides to seize private property some of which contain military service member remains.
https://apnews.com/ad6f6247154548c3b28db33ae6a5eae9
Trump told officials he would pardon them if they break the law by illegally seizing property.
https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/ ... all-pardon
Children of deployed US troops are no longer guaranteed citizenship. This includes US troops posted abroad for years at a time (August 28, 2019)
https://www.military.com/daily-news/201 ... nship.html
On Aug 2, 2019, Trump requisitioned military retirement funds towards border wall
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/milit ... rump-wall/
On July 31, 2019, Trump ordered the Navy rescind medals to prosecutors who were prosecuted war criminals
https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-nav ... seal-case/
https://www.npr.org/2019/08/01/74714422 ... ring-capti
Trump denied a U.S. Marine of 6 years entry into the United States for his citizenship interview (Reported July 17, 2019)
https://thehill.com/homenews/news/45322 ... -interview
https://www.pri.org/stories/2019-07-17/ ... -interview
Trump made the U.S. Navy Blue Angels violate ethics rules by having them fly at his July 4th political campaign event (July 4, 2019)
https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na- ... story.html
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/201 ... ation.html
Trump demanded US military chiefs stand next to him at 4th of July parade (reported July 2, 2019)
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/tr ... ar-AADJGbc
In June, 2019, Trump sent troops to the border to paint the fence
https://www.military.com/daily-news/201 ... -wall.html
Does not stand when the retreat bugle plays at the end of the day, continuous talking, and makes jokes about it "What a nice sound that is. Are they playing that for you [Sean Hannity] or me?" (Oct. 11 2017)
Trump attacks McCain: 'I like people who weren't captured' (July 18, 2015)
https://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/ ... red-120317
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So does this mean the leftists hate Bolton again?
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Means nothing if he didn't hear it.
Anyways Bolton, Cheney, Bush II, etc. are some the biggest war criminals to ever exist in America. That administration was and will always be worse than Trump's, and everyone involved should face justice at home and the Hague.
Bolton's only legacy is that he was directly involved in two of the worst administrations to grace the executive branch. And no doubt that without Trump's hesitance for war, Bolton, Miller, Pompeo, Pence, and others would have us involved in new conflicts. Bolton creams himself at the thought of nuking Iran, while Pence resists sexual thoughts about the Battle of Armageddon.
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I expected you informed enough to be aware of Trump’s many military gaffes.
Biden leads Trump now in active duty polls. A group Trump won by 20 pts in 2016.
Losers.