Thanks for making my point. One party is a diverse coalition with many different view points (aka. good democracy).andy7171 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:38 amIf the left is so moderate, why are they stuggling to reign in fellow D's to support their budget and debt limit extension>∞∞∞ wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:23 am
Nah. GQP has shifted so far to the right at this point that they're a legit threat to our democracy.
Dems have their progressive wing, but for the most part it's a center-left if not a center party (or even center-right at times). They have internal struggles, debates, openly question each other, etc. I may disagree with many of their policies, but there's no test of loyalty.
The GQP is loyal to Trumpism only, not the nation. Yesterday Trump told people the Arizona audit shows he won and they cheered. The first thing about being in a cult is you don't think you're in one and I think Carl Sagan sums it up perfectly:
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: if we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back."
Look at JSO. I remember having healthy liberal-conservative debates with him for 10+ years now. Dude hasn't changed one bit, yet some of you have become so enamored with Trumpism that JSO - one of the most conservative of conservatives on this site - is now considered a donk because he calls out Trump's dumbassery and authoritarianism. But yeah, people like JSO are donks masquerading around.
The other is loyal to one thing and it's not the United States.
At this point I think the GQP simply wants to the see the country burn and own the libs. That's the platform.