Where are the Masks?
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Re: Where are the Masks?
The government cannot take care of you, just like they cannot take care of this media created "epidmic".
If you want masks you plan on doing it yourself, pull up those boot straps you left wing pussies.
If you want masks you plan on doing it yourself, pull up those boot straps you left wing pussies.
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Re: Where are the Masks?
Here's a dumb question... If this guy had three months notice, why didn't he have someone stock up on the plentiful (at the time) supply in anticipation of an outbreak? Sounds like he and his hospital failed in a pretty big way as well.dbackjon wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:37 am Almost every health-care professional I interviewed criticized the government’s lack of preparedness. “The biggest mistake we’ve made is that we awakened to this problem too late,” said the New York emergency-room doctor. “We had three months of warning from China and then Europe, and we didn’t take it seriously.”
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Re: Where are the Masks?
bobbythekidd wrote: ↑Sun Mar 22, 2020 3:59 pmHere's a dumb question... If this guy had three months notice, why didn't he have someone stock up on the plentiful (at the time) supply in anticipation of an outbreak? Sounds like he and his hospital failed in a pretty big way as well.dbackjon wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:37 am Almost every health-care professional I interviewed criticized the government’s lack of preparedness. “The biggest mistake we’ve made is that we awakened to this problem too late,” said the New York emergency-room doctor. “We had three months of warning from China and then Europe, and we didn’t take it seriously.”
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Re: Where are the Masks?
As I said, still trying to figure out why it’s the government’s fault these medical facilities don’t have masks....89Hen wrote: ↑Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:01 pmbobbythekidd wrote: ↑Sun Mar 22, 2020 3:59 pm
Here's a dumb question... If this guy had three months notice, why didn't he have someone stock up on the plentiful (at the time) supply in anticipation of an outbreak? Sounds like he and his hospital failed in a pretty big way as well.
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Masks have an expiration date --- it costs 20% each year to recycle to new masks.CID1990 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:55 pm The Chinese make the masks
The fact that the Chinese make the masks and can withhold them is a problem of our own making and it is one that has been cheered on by Republican and Democrat alike
- “let’s allow them in our markets so their middle class will grow and force them to liberalize”
That was our foreign policy on China since 1960 and now here we are
The masks are in China - they have pit production into overdrive and they are not exporting them
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3M makes masks in the USA from 'Asian and European' components since 2007 or so (they purchased a private equity firm in Europe called 'Aearo' that made masks and respirators).
There is also a difference in qualifications between industrial or medical masks, so it's the gub'mints fault, huh?
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That’s a nice story you told thereAho Old Guy wrote:Masks have an expiration date --- it costs 20% each year to recycle to new masks.CID1990 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:55 pm The Chinese make the masks
The fact that the Chinese make the masks and can withhold them is a problem of our own making and it is one that has been cheered on by Republican and Democrat alike
- “let’s allow them in our markets so their middle class will grow and force them to liberalize”
That was our foreign policy on China since 1960 and now here we are
The masks are in China - they have pit production into overdrive and they are not exporting them
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3M makes masks in the USA from 'Asian and European' components since 2007 or so (they purchased a private equity firm in Europe called 'Aearo' that made masks and respirators).
There is also a difference in qualifications between industrial or medical masks, so it's the gub'mints fault, huh?
With some word salad and a couple red herrings thrown in
And irrelevant - 3M is ramping up production but the vast majority of our *medical* masks are made in China. 3M doesn’t come close
Maybe you’re trying to dispute the results of 60 years of foreign policy with China? It’s hard to tell what you’re talking about sometimes when you jump of the porch hollering
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Some cool stuff happening including Dry Fly Distillery making Spokanitizer and this...
https://www.kuow.org/stories/mukilteo-f ... -hospitals
https://www.kuow.org/stories/mukilteo-f ... -hospitals
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Worst thing Nixon ever did, and he had some doozies.CID1990 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:02 amThat’s a nice story you told thereAho Old Guy wrote:
Masks have an expiration date --- it costs 20% each year to recycle to new masks.
3M makes masks in the USA from 'Asian and European' components since 2007 or so (they purchased a private equity firm in Europe called 'Aearo' that made masks and respirators).
There is also a difference in qualifications between industrial or medical masks, so it's the gub'mints fault, huh?
With some word salad and a couple red herrings thrown in
And irrelevant - 3M is ramping up production but the vast majority of our *medical* masks are made in China. 3M doesn’t come close
Maybe you’re trying to dispute the results of 60 years of foreign policy with China? It’s hard to tell what you’re talking about sometimes when you jump of the porch hollering
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Can’t we also blame our trade policy since Nixon?Ivytalk wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:25 amWorst thing Nixon ever did, and he had some doozies.CID1990 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:02 am
That’s a nice story you told there
With some word salad and a couple red herrings thrown in
And irrelevant - 3M is ramping up production but the vast majority of our *medical* masks are made in China. 3M doesn’t come close
Maybe you’re trying to dispute the results of 60 years of foreign policy with China? It’s hard to tell what you’re talking about sometimes when you jump of the porch hollering
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Another source to help with the mask shortage developed locally: https://www.ktvq.com/news/coronavirus/b ... ical-masks Apparently anyone with a 3D printer can help put these out.kalm wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:37 am Some cool stuff happening including Dry Fly Distillery making Spokanitizer and this...
https://www.kuow.org/stories/mukilteo-f ... -hospitals
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News coming out now of the national supply was cut deep during H1N1 and was never replenished like the administration was supposed to.
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Yeps. Obama's fault..SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:15 am News coming out now of the national supply was cut deep during H1N1 and was never replenished like the administration was supposed to.
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What, they didn't take a cycle count since 2010? What kind of inventory management is that? Surely we should've realized this at some point since January 2017?BDKJMU wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:30 amYeps. Obama's fault..SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:15 am News coming out now of the national supply was cut deep during H1N1 and was never replenished like the administration was supposed to.
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Distilleries all over the country making hand sanitizer.kalm wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:37 am Some cool stuff happening including Dry Fly Distillery making Spokanitizer and this...
https://www.kuow.org/stories/mukilteo-f ... -hospitals
https://www.usnews.com/news/national-ne ... oronavirus
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states ... -sanitizer
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Re: Where are the Masks?
Don't worry the government is on it!
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And Trump's administration did nothing to fix the problem in the 3+ years he's been in office. There is plenty of blame to go around.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:30 amYeps. Obama's fault..SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:15 am News coming out now of the national supply was cut deep during H1N1 and was never replenished like the administration was supposed to.
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He probably would have fixed this problem but he was busy being attacked everyday by the media and Democrats who were lying and making shit up.
This is on the left too.
This is on the left too.
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I'm sure "check on the number of masks in case of a global pandemic" was not too far down on his to-do-list he kept in his office.ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 1:00 pm He probably would have fixed this problem but he was busy being attacked everyday by the media and Democrats who were lying and making shit up.
This is on the left too.
With all that said, he's lucky that no damage has been done so far - heck, NYC is the hardest hit place and they haven't run out of stuff yet (but they say they will this week). He has a chance to come out of this on the other side in a good position, but that time is closing.
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Still trying to figure out why medical facilities and healthcare providers need the federal government to TELL them to have enough masks on hand in the event of a pandemic.
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Is this the same mentality of the White House?.....trying to figure out who is to blame while Rome burns?
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No, dipshit. I'm trying to figure out why the Federal Government is being blamed for the failures of the leadership at the individual medical facilities? Do they have to ask the Feds when they want to order toilet paper too? Wouldn't masks be one of those fundamental pieces of equipment you'd want to make sure of, as a medical facility/healthcare provider, that you had sufficient quantities of?
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Hey fuckhead....why didn't Trump react weeks earlier instead of calling it a liberal hoax?AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 2:22 pmNo, dipshit. I'm trying to figure out why the Federal Government is being blamed for the failures of the leadership at the individual medical facilities? Do they have to ask the Feds when they want to order toilet paper too? Wouldn't masks be one of those fundamental pieces of equipment you'd want to make sure of, as a medical facility/healthcare provider, that you had sufficient quantities of?
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I'm good with the idea that the individual medical providers share a lot of the blame/burden for not having the initial supply of what they needed. With that said, as the situation worsens, and we move past the initial stage and we're in the stage of dealing with flare-ups and mass epidemics, that's where I'd expect the federal system to kick in and help alleviate the emergency needs. That's what the government could and should do. Just like the strategic oil supply is there for temporary, emergency situations with the supply of oil, the government should be there in a similar circumstance with medical supplies, or at least have the wherewithal to figure it out.AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 2:22 pmNo, dipshit. I'm trying to figure out why the Federal Government is being blamed for the failures of the leadership at the individual medical facilities? Do they have to ask the Feds when they want to order toilet paper too? Wouldn't masks be one of those fundamental pieces of equipment you'd want to make sure of, as a medical facility/healthcare provider, that you had sufficient quantities of?
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Because it is a liberal hoax. They are wrecking this country on purpose to try and get rid of Trump and they will fail againmainejeff wrote:Hey fuckhead....why didn't Trump react weeks earlier instead of calling it a liberal hoax?AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 2:22 pm No, dipshit. I'm trying to figure out why the Federal Government is being blamed for the failures of the leadership at the individual medical facilities? Do they have to ask the Feds when they want to order toilet paper too? Wouldn't masks be one of those fundamental pieces of equipment you'd want to make sure of, as a medical facility/healthcare provider, that you had sufficient quantities of?
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