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The Great Onerous Curtailing of Our Freedoms Thread
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 2:55 pm
by kalm
Since we have a geographically varied slice of Americana here, it would be interesting to compare what rules, regs, and measures have been imposed where you live?
I’ll start....
Cheney, WA:
No fishing
No hunting
No golfing
No more than two people at a time allowed in the post office
Plexiglass screens for grocery store cashiers
Safeway open only for the elderly from 6-9 on Tue and Thur
Schools closed
No gatherings over 10 people
What you got?
Re: The Great Onerous Curtailing of Our Freedoms Thread
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:19 pm
by SunCoastBlueHen
Our beach is closed and the snook should be starting to run about now. That's enough to cause me angst.
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Re: The Great Onerous Curtailing of Our Freedoms Thread
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:47 pm
by dbackjon
SunCoastBlueHen wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:19 pm
Our beach is closed and the snook should be starting to run about now. That's enough to cause me angst.
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They just need to be like Costco - draw lanes that everyone has to stay in
Re: The Great Onerous Curtailing of Our Freedoms Thread
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:51 pm
by kalm
SunCoastBlueHen wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:19 pm
Our beach is closed and the snook should be starting to run about now. That's enough to cause me angst.
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This just makes me sad.
Re: The Great Onerous Curtailing of Our Freedoms Thread
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 5:08 pm
by JohnStOnge
I actually think Louisiana's Governor is striking a reasonable balance. You can see the details of his order at
https://gov.louisiana.gov/home/.
One aspect:
People can leave their homes to do things like buy groceries or food, pick up medicine or go to work if their job is essential. If you have to go out, make sure you practice social distancing measures and keep 6 feet between you and the people around you. Also: people are encouraged to go outside and to stay active during this time, as long as they practice social distancing when they are around their neighbors.
I interpret that to mean I can go fishing. And I've gone twice so far since it went into effect. The order certainly doesn't prohibit fishing by yourself in a kayak.
Re: The Great Onerous Curtailing of Our Freedoms Thread
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 5:12 pm
by JohnStOnge
SunCoastBlueHen wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:19 pm
Our beach is closed and the snook should be starting to run about now. That's enough to cause me angst.
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I'm pretty sure that in Louisiana you could go out to the beach and fish as long as you maintained the 6 feet thing.
Re: The Great Onerous Curtailing of Our Freedoms Thread
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 5:23 pm
by dbackjon
SunCoastBlueHen wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:19 pm
Our beach is closed and the snook should be starting to run about now. That's enough to cause me angst.
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Wouldn't fishing qualify as getting food?
Re: The Great Onerous Curtailing of Our Freedoms Thread
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 5:30 pm
by CAA Flagship
dbackjon wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 5:23 pm
SunCoastBlueHen wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:19 pm
Our beach is closed and the snook should be starting to run about now. That's enough to cause me angst.
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Wouldn't fishing qualify as getting food?
Only if you catch Chesapeake blue crabs in Louisiana.
Re: The Great Onerous Curtailing of Our Freedoms Thread
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 5:44 pm
by kalm
JohnStOnge wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 5:12 pm
SunCoastBlueHen wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:19 pm
Our beach is closed and the snook should be starting to run about now. That's enough to cause me angst.
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I'm pretty sure that in Louisiana you could go out to the beach and fish as long as you maintained the 6 feet thing.
It’s not that you personally would compromise other people in your boat it’s the behavior of other unaware fishermen. Touch a gas handle, grab your beer and worms at the convenience store, touch a rail, dock, or restroom at the launch etc. New Orleans’ level is increasing like Florida and with intrastate travel alone there’s a high risk for community spread.
The public still lags weeks behind understanding how bad this can strain each location’s healthcare system. That’s the real threat. Beds, masks, respirators and testing to infection rates and deaths are the hard numbers.
Re: The Great Onerous Curtailing of Our Freedoms Thread
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 5:52 pm
by SunCoastBlueHen
kalm wrote:SunCoastBlueHen wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:19 pm
Our beach is closed and the snook should be starting to run about now. That's enough to cause me angst.
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This just makes me sad.
Yeah. The beach accesses are gated, chained and locked. The thing that irritates me is that when it comes to beach renourishment time, they classify our community beach as private and they skip over us. Only public beaches are supposed to be closed, so why are we now all of a sudden considered public?
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Re: The Great Onerous Curtailing of Our Freedoms Thread
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:03 pm
by dbackjon
SunCoastBlueHen wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 5:52 pm
kalm wrote:
This just makes me sad.
Yeah. The beach accesses are gated, chained and locked. The thing that irritates me is that when it comes to beach renourishment time, they classify our community beach as private and they skip over us. Only public beaches are supposed to be closed, so why are we now all of a sudden considered public?
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Take pictures. Remind them next time. Fight City Hall!!
Re: The Great Onerous Curtailing of Our Freedoms Thread
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:37 pm
by CID1990
Ultimately we are a law abiding society and our enforcement systems are set up that way - even the worst cities in America only have about 4 police officers per 1000 residents.
These rules are really on the honor system and will take some civic responsibility on the part of citizens and residents to work, because there is no capacity for enforcement if a plurality of people decide they are just going to hit the beach, or whatever.
When all this is over I am sure there will be plenty of videos of cunts who we can shame and drive into hiding/exile and TBH I look forward to it
Re: The Great Onerous Curtailing of Our Freedoms Thread
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:47 pm
by AZGrizFan
Sequestered at the lake house. Boats abound on the water....had to sit in line to get gas.
Re: The Great Onerous Curtailing of Our Freedoms Thread
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:50 pm
by SDHornet
Re: The Great Onerous Curtailing of Our Freedoms Thread
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:51 pm
by SDHornet
kalm wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 5:44 pm
JohnStOnge wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 5:12 pm
I'm pretty sure that in Louisiana you could go out to the beach and fish as long as you maintained the 6 feet thing.
It’s not that you personally would compromise other people in your boat it’s the behavior of other unaware fishermen. Touch a gas handle, grab your beer and worms at the convenience store, touch a rail, dock, or restroom at the launch etc. New Orleans’ level is increasing like Florida and with intrastate travel alone there’s a high risk for community spread.
The public still lags weeks behind understanding how bad this can strain each location’s healthcare system. That’s the real threat. Beds, masks, respirators and testing to infection rates and deaths are the hard numbers.
So basically no different than going to the gas station to fill your tank or get groceries at your local store.
Re: The Great Onerous Curtailing of Our Freedoms Thread
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 7:18 pm
by kalm
SDHornet wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:51 pm
kalm wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 5:44 pm
It’s not that you personally would compromise other people in your boat it’s the behavior of other unaware fishermen. Touch a gas handle, grab your beer and worms at the convenience store, touch a rail, dock, or restroom at the launch etc. New Orleans’ level is increasing like Florida and with intrastate travel alone there’s a high risk for community spread.
The public still lags weeks behind understanding how bad this can strain each location’s healthcare system. That’s the real threat. Beds, masks, respirators and testing to infection rates and deaths are the hard numbers.
So basically no different than going to the gas station to fill your tank or get groceries at your local store.
Correct, but it’s one less instance of contact and decreases community spread further.
Re: The Great Onerous Curtailing of Our Freedoms Thread
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 7:41 pm
by SDHornet
kalm wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 7:18 pm
SDHornet wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:51 pm
So basically no different than going to the gas station to fill your tank or get groceries at your local store.
Correct, but it’s one less instance of contact and decreases community spread further.
Re: The Great Onerous Curtailing of Our Freedoms Thread
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:07 pm
by grizzaholic
Not sure what you mean? I can go camping/fishing/hunting/hiking if I want. I live in Montana. Also, Montana is not currently accepting applicants.
Re: The Great Onerous Curtailing of Our Freedoms Thread
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:15 pm
by ∞∞∞
grizzaholic wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:07 pm
Not sure what you mean? I can go camping/fishing/hunting/hiking if I want. I live in Montana. Also, Montana is not currently accepting applicants.
Montana's behind, right? You'll hear about the virus in 5 years, and it should get there a few years after that.
Re: The Great Onerous Curtailing of Our Freedoms Thread
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:46 pm
by 93henfan
I stopped for fuel this evening, put on my nitrile gloves, got out of the car and observed while pumping diesel. I did not see a single other person with gloves on. I saw four people grab gas handles and touch touchscreens without gloves. I saw about ten people grab the door handle into the convenience store without gloves. I saw three people grab the door handle to the liquor store without gloves. This was in about a five minute window.
People are really fucking stupid.
Re: The Great Onerous Curtailing of Our Freedoms Thread
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:58 pm
by ∞∞∞
I don't know if I'd call it stupid, or if you need gloves for everything.
As long as you can get between opening a door handle and disinfecting your hands without touching your face, you should be ok. I mean a terrifying amount of people can't do that, but I wouldn't say anyone touching common surfaces with their bare hands is stupid.
The Great Onerous Curtailing of Our Freedoms Thread
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 9:35 pm
by CID1990
∞∞∞ wrote:I don't know if I'd call it stupid, or if you need gloves for everything.
As long as you can get between opening a door handle and disinfecting your hands without touching your face, you should be ok. I mean a terrifying amount of people can't do that, but I wouldn't say anyone touching common surfaces with their bare hands is stupid.
True - at least right now there is no evidence that our skin is permeable to this virus
That said, the apparent transmissibility rate possibly suggests that we do secrete the virus into our sweat glands.. so definitely keep that purell handy
oh and the skin on the genitals IS permeable to many viruses so now I only touch my dick BEFORE I shake hands
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Re: The Great Onerous Curtailing of Our Freedoms Thread
Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:58 am
by kalm
93henfan wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:46 pm
I stopped for fuel this evening, put on my nitrile gloves, got out of the car and observed while pumping diesel. I did not see a single other person with gloves on. I saw four people grab gas handles and touch touchscreens without gloves. I saw about ten people grab the door handle into the convenience store without gloves. I saw three people grab the door handle to the liquor store without gloves. This was in about a five minute window.
People are really fucking stupid.
I wear a glove on just one hand and moon walk through doors. HEE HEE!
(I keep a box of clorox wipes in the car and clean after each stop)
Re: The Great Onerous Curtailing of Our Freedoms Thread
Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:44 am
by houndawg
kalm wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:58 am
93henfan wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:46 pm
I stopped for fuel this evening, put on my nitrile gloves, got out of the car and observed while pumping diesel. I did not see a single other person with gloves on. I saw four people grab gas handles and touch touchscreens without gloves. I saw about ten people grab the door handle into the convenience store without gloves. I saw three people grab the door handle to the liquor store without gloves. This was in about a five minute window.
People are really fucking stupid.
I wear a glove on just one hand and moon walk through doors. HEE HEE!
(I keep a box of clorox wipes in the car and clean after each stop)
My wife mixes rubbing alcohol with aloe vera. Every house in the nation should have aloe plants somewhere
Re: The Great Onerous Curtailing of Our Freedoms Thread
Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:55 am
by kalm
houndawg wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:44 am
kalm wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:58 am
I wear a glove on just one hand and moon walk through doors. HEE HEE!
(I keep a box of clorox wipes in the car and clean after each stop)
My wife mixes rubbing alcohol with aloe vera. Every house in the nation should have aloe plants somewhere
Yep. My wife mixes it with coconut oil or aloe.