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BDKJMU wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:30 pm Double 15 yard penalty for pulling a double JSO with 10 straight posts in a row on the same thread, including one JSO length, and a half doz videos.

UNI88 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:08 pm Jon, there are definitely some religious grifters here but there are also people that trust God to get them through this and think that he wants them to go on living. I don't agree with them and their belief could be dangerous in spreading the virus.

dbackjon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 2:56 pm The Religious Right’s Hostility to Science Is Crippling Our Coronavirus Response

Trump’s response to the pandemic has been haunted by the science denialism of his ultraconservative religious allies.

Donald Trump rose to power with the determined assistance of a movement that denies science, bashes government and prioritized loyalty over professional expertise. In the current crisis, we are all reaping what that movement has sown.

At least since the 19th century, when the proslavery theologian Robert Lewis Dabney attacked the physical sciences as “theories of unbelief,” hostility to science has characterized the more extreme forms of religious nationalism in the United States. Today, the hard core of climate deniers is concentrated among people who identify as religiously conservative Republicans. And some leaders of the Christian nationalist movement, like those allied with the Cornwall Alliance for the Stewardship of Creation, which has denounced environmental science as a “Cult of the Green Dragon,” cast environmentalism as an alternative — and false — theology.

This denial of science and critical thinking among religious ultraconservatives now haunts the American response to the coronavirus crisis. On March 15, Guillermo Maldonado, who calls himself an “apostle” and hosted Mr. Trump earlier this year at a campaign event at his Miami megachurch, urged his congregants to show up for worship services in person. “Do you believe God would bring his people to his house to be contagious with the virus? Of course not,” he said.

Rodney Howard-Browne of The River at Tampa Bay Church in Florida mocked people concerned about the disease as “pansies” and insisted he would only shutter the doors to his packed church “when the rapture is taking place.” In a sermon that was live-streamed on Facebook, Tony Spell, a pastor in Louisiana, said, “We’re also going to pass out anointed handkerchiefs to people who may have a fear, who may have a sickness and we believe that when those anointed handkerchiefs go, that healing virtue is going to go on them as well.”

By all accounts, President Trump’s tendency to trust his gut over the experts on issues like vaccines and climate change does not come from any deep-seated religious conviction. But he is perfectly in tune with the religious nationalists who form the core of his base. In his daily briefings from the White House, Mr. Trump actively disdains and contradicts the messages coming from his own experts and touts as yet unproven cures.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/27/opin ... d=em-share

UNI88 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:08 pm Jon, there are definitely some religious grifters here but there are also people that trust God to get them through this and think that he wants them to go on living. I don't agree with them and their belief could be dangerous in spreading the virus.

AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 2:57 pm

dbackjon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 2:56 pm The Religious Right’s Hostility to Science Is Crippling Our Coronavirus Response

Trump’s response to the pandemic has been haunted by the science denialism of his ultraconservative religious allies.

Donald Trump rose to power with the determined assistance of a movement that denies science, bashes government and prioritized loyalty over professional expertise. In the current crisis, we are all reaping what that movement has sown.

At least since the 19th century, when the proslavery theologian Robert Lewis Dabney attacked the physical sciences as “theories of unbelief,” hostility to science has characterized the more extreme forms of religious nationalism in the United States. Today, the hard core of climate deniers is concentrated among people who identify as religiously conservative Republicans. And some leaders of the Christian nationalist movement, like those allied with the Cornwall Alliance for the Stewardship of Creation, which has denounced environmental science as a “Cult of the Green Dragon,” cast environmentalism as an alternative — and false — theology.

This denial of science and critical thinking among religious ultraconservatives now haunts the American response to the coronavirus crisis. On March 15, Guillermo Maldonado, who calls himself an “apostle” and hosted Mr. Trump earlier this year at a campaign event at his Miami megachurch, urged his congregants to show up for worship services in person. “Do you believe God would bring his people to his house to be contagious with the virus? Of course not,” he said.

Rodney Howard-Browne of The River at Tampa Bay Church in Florida mocked people concerned about the disease as “pansies” and insisted he would only shutter the doors to his packed church “when the rapture is taking place.” In a sermon that was live-streamed on Facebook, Tony Spell, a pastor in Louisiana, said, “We’re also going to pass out anointed handkerchiefs to people who may have a fear, who may have a sickness and we believe that when those anointed handkerchiefs go, that healing virtue is going to go on them as well.”

By all accounts, President Trump’s tendency to trust his gut over the experts on issues like vaccines and climate change does not come from any deep-seated religious conviction. But he is perfectly in tune with the religious nationalists who form the core of his base. In his daily briefings from the White House, Mr. Trump actively disdains and contradicts the messages coming from his own experts and touts as yet unproven cures.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/27/opin ... d=em-share

There is absolutely zero causal relationship between the religious right being his allies and his actions in the runup to the pandemic. Zip. Zero. Nada.

More clickbait bullshit from the batshit crazy left.

grizzaholic wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:41 pm They are just trying to make a buck. Why all the hate?

dbackjon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:41 pm If you say so...lol That is why he is taking advice from the "MyPillow" guy.

One of these days you will look back and wonder "Why the Hell was I so blind to Trump"?

Baldy wrote:

dbackjon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:41 pm If you say so...lol That is why he is taking advice from the "MyPillow" guy.

One of these days you will look back and wonder "Why the Hell was I so blind to Trump"?

The "My Pillow" guy retooled his factory and is making 50,000 N95 masks a day.

...and you?