Annual Flu Shot
Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:35 pm
Gil posted a figure which I assume is true that 37% of folks do not get a flu shot every year. I was curious what our numbers here are.
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Re: Annual Flu Shot
Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:41 pm
Always
Re: Annual Flu Shot
Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:41 pm
No. Never received it in the past and probably never will in the future.
Re: Annual Flu Shot
Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:49 pm
Nope. For 25 years the Navy decided what chemicals were going into my body. The day I retired was the last time I ever got a flu shot. That was 2008.
Re: Annual Flu Shot
Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:57 pm
I never have. Never had the flu.
Re: Annual Flu Shot
Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:58 pm
Re: Annual Flu Shot
Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 3:00 pm
Re: Annual Flu Shot
Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 3:16 pm
Re: Annual Flu Shot
Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 3:17 pm
Re: Annual Flu Shot
Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 3:19 pm
Re: Annual Flu Shot
Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 3:21 pm
Re: Annual Flu Shot
Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 3:22 pm
Every year.
Re: Annual Flu Shot
Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 3:22 pm
Should have gave a ‘sometimes’ option. I put no since I’d never gotten it until about 5-6 years ago, but have about 3-4x since, after getting sick of my mom, sister, or gf getting on me about getting it..
Re: Annual Flu Shot
Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 3:23 pm
No, I am saying I am using modern medicine for both. I have had the shingles vaccine shot too, because I saw the pain my Great Aunt went thru with shingles. Actually 3 shingles shots. One of the old version, and the new 2 shot cycle.
Re: Annual Flu Shot
Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 3:26 pm
Apples and oranges comparison Gil.
I don't get the flu shot because I don't believe in modern medicine. I don't get it because I don't need it.
In the last 20 years I have missed 2 days of work (one day each) due to being sick (and it was more exhaustion from running myself ragged than anything). If I was in a higher risk group, I would reevaluate my choice, but I am not, nor does my job require it.
If you want to extrapolate, for the COVID-19 vaccine (if one actually does come out) I may or may not get. All depends on the type of vaccine and a few other conditions. I am a firm believer in science and what science can do for us, but I also don't think just because science says we should do something that I blindly follow what they say (after all leaches were the peak of scientific medicine at one time
). I do my research (and it is accredited, talk to my doctor and other health professional friends) and make a decision from there.Re: Annual Flu Shot
Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 3:29 pm
See above ^Winterborn wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 3:26 pmApples and oranges comparison Gil.
I don't get the flu shot because I don't believe in modern medicine. I don't get it because I don't need it.
In the last 20 years I have missed 2 days of work (one day each) due to being sick (and it was more exhaustion from running myself ragged than anything). If I was in a higher risk group, I would reevaluate my choice, but I am not, nor does my job require it.
If you want to extrapolate, for the COVID-19 vaccine (if one actually does come out) I may or may not get. All depends on the type of vaccine and a few other conditions. I am a firm believer in science and what science can do for us, but I also don't think just because science says we should do something that I blindly follow what they say (after all leaches were the peak of scientific medicine at one time
Re: Annual Flu Shot
Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 3:30 pm
Besides helping you, vaccines do help those who can't get the shots (herd immunity).
Not as much with the flu vaccine, but certainly with all the others.
The more skeptical we are with modern medicine, the more vulnerable our most vulnerable become.
Not as much with the flu vaccine, but certainly with all the others.
The more skeptical we are with modern medicine, the more vulnerable our most vulnerable become.
Re: Annual Flu Shot
Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 3:32 pm
1. I type real slow to try and formulate my thoughts/answers.Gil Dobie wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 3:29 pmSee above ^Winterborn wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 3:26 pm
Apples and oranges comparison Gil.
I don't get the flu shot because I don't believe in modern medicine. I don't get it because I don't need it.
In the last 20 years I have missed 2 days of work (one day each) due to being sick (and it was more exhaustion from running myself ragged than anything). If I was in a higher risk group, I would reevaluate my choice, but I am not, nor does my job require it.
If you want to extrapolate, for the COVID-19 vaccine (if one actually does come out) I may or may not get. All depends on the type of vaccine and a few other conditions. I am a firm believer in science and what science can do for us, but I also don't think just because science says we should do something that I blindly follow what they say (after all leaches were the peak of scientific medicine at one time
2. My point still stands. I weigh the risks/benefits and make the choice from there.
Re: Annual Flu Shot
Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 3:34 pm
On some illnesses I fully agree. (Example of polio vs the common flu).
Re: Annual Flu Shot
Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 3:34 pm
I understand that, just trying to get across where I was coming from. Modern medicine instead of vaccine vs treatment. Shingles is another vaccine that is recommended. But you have to be a certain age to get the shot.Winterborn wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 3:32 pm1. I type real slow to try and formulate my thoughts/answers.
2. My point still stands. I weigh the risks/benefits and make the choice from there.
Re: Annual Flu Shot
Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 3:36 pm
Right now, after 10 votes, it's at 40%, right on par.
Re: Annual Flu Shot
Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 3:45 pm
people that are adults and have never experienced flu symptoms should NOT get a flu shot...
People that "get the flu" should get a flu shot
a percentage of humans are not susceptible to the influenza virus frequently are told to get flu shots because they might have the flu and not experience symptoms but this is basically bullish!t because they've experimented on those adults
and heavy dose infected them with the flu and they got the fucvking flu
so what that tells us is that their immune systems are difficult to hack
the flu virus hijacks the protein manufacturing machinery of the cell to generate its own viral proteins and create more viral particles
if you subvert their immune system they get the flu
however left to contract the flu organically their immune system works fine
People that "get the flu" should get a flu shot
a percentage of humans are not susceptible to the influenza virus frequently are told to get flu shots because they might have the flu and not experience symptoms but this is basically bullish!t because they've experimented on those adults
and heavy dose infected them with the flu and they got the fucvking flu
so what that tells us is that their immune systems are difficult to hack
the flu virus hijacks the protein manufacturing machinery of the cell to generate its own viral proteins and create more viral particles
if you subvert their immune system they get the flu
however left to contract the flu organically their immune system works fine
Re: Annual Flu Shot
Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 3:45 pm
I guess this still has me confused. I see both a vaccine and treatment of modern diseases as the realm of "modern medicine".Gil Dobie wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 3:34 pmI understand that, just trying to get across where I was coming from. Modern medicine instead of vaccine vs treatment. Shingles is another vaccine that is recommended. But you have to be a certain age to get the shot.Winterborn wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 3:32 pm
1. I type real slow to try and formulate my thoughts/answers.
2. My point still stands. I weigh the risks/benefits and make the choice from there.
A anti-venom shot for most snake bites is a necessity otherwise you will die.
A vaccine for some diseases is the same way (get vaccinated or you have a very high potential of dying), others not so much outside of certain high risk groups (aka the common flu).
All the above is "modern medicine" to me but if I chose to not to get the flu shot, it doesn't mean I distrust modern medicine, it just means for some very low risk situations (not a poisonous snake bite) I chose to forgo a potential vaccine for that years strain of flu (to use that analogy).
Re: Annual Flu Shot
Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 3:49 pm
I blame my ancestors.Chizzang wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 3:45 pm people that are adults and have never experienced flu symptoms should NOT get a flu shot...
People that "get the flu" should get a flu shot
a percentage of humans are not susceptible to the influenza virus frequently are told to get flu shots because they might have the flu and not experience symptoms but this is basically bullish!t because they've experimented on those adults
and heavy dose infected them with the flu and they got the fucvking flu
so what that tells us is that their immune systems are difficult to hack
the flu virus hijacks the protein manufacturing machinery of the cell to generate its own viral proteins and create more viral particles
if you subvert their immune system they get the flu
however left to contract the flu organically their immune system works fine
Re: Annual Flu Shot
Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 3:54 pm
That's another can of worms. All poisonous snake bits don't kill. They make you very sick, or kill if you have existing conditions, are real young or real old. I just wanted to leave it at examples of modern medicine period. And I don't disagree with what you are saying.Winterborn wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 3:45 pmI guess this still has me confused. I see both a vaccine and treatment of modern diseases as the realm of "modern medicine".
A anti-venom shot for most snake bites is a necessity otherwise you will die.
A vaccine for some diseases is the same way (get vaccinated or you have a very high potential of dying), others not so much outside of certain high risk groups (aka the common flu).
All the above is "modern medicine" to me but if I chose to not to get the flu shot, it doesn't mean I distrust modern medicine, it just means for some very low risk situations (not a poisonous snake bite) I chose to forgo a potential vaccine for that years strain of flu (to use that analogy).