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As we watch certain cities burn, there are two things I hope most good people can agree with...

1 - Peaceful protests against injustice such as the killing of George Floyd are justified and the pinnacle of American political expression

2 - The violent riots that followed some of the peaceful protest only benefit the looters and win no support for those involved in #1 above.

And that’s not my opinion...its The findings of a study published in The Journal of Personality and Social Psycology...
The researchers conducted six experiments with 3,399 participants in total, in which they assessed how different types of protest behaviors influenced support for a variety of progressive and conservative social causes, including the Black Lives Matter movement and the anti-abortion movement. They found that more extreme behaviors — such as the use of inflammatory rhetoric, blocking traffic, and vandalism — consistently resulted in reduced support for social movements.

This was true even when participants were already politically or socially sympathetic to the social movement. “We found extreme anti-Trump protest actions actually led people to not only dislike the movement and support the cause less, but to be willing to support Trump more,” Feinberg said. “It was almost like a backlash
https://www.psypost.org/2020/05/new-psy ... ents-56906

The study, “The Activist’s Dilemma: Extreme Protest Actions Reduce Popular Support for Social Movements“, was authored by Matthew Feinberg, Robb Willer, and Chloe Kovacheff.
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Col Hogan wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:08 pm As we watch certain cities burn, there are two things I hope most good people can agree with...

1 - Peaceful protests against injustice such as the killing of George Floyd are justified and the pinnacle of American political expression

2 - The violent riots that followed some of the peaceful protest only benefit the looters and win no support for those involved in #1 above.

And that’s not my opinion...its The findings of a study published in The Journal of Personality and Social Psycology...
The researchers conducted six experiments with 3,399 participants in total, in which they assessed how different types of protest behaviors influenced support for a variety of progressive and conservative social causes, including the Black Lives Matter movement and the anti-abortion movement. They found that more extreme behaviors — such as the use of inflammatory rhetoric, blocking traffic, and vandalism — consistently resulted in reduced support for social movements.

This was true even when participants were already politically or socially sympathetic to the social movement. “We found extreme anti-Trump protest actions actually led people to not only dislike the movement and support the cause less, but to be willing to support Trump more,” Feinberg said. “It was almost like a backlash
https://www.psypost.org/2020/05/new-psy ... ents-56906

The study, “The Activist’s Dilemma: Extreme Protest Actions Reduce Popular Support for Social Movements“, was authored by Matthew Feinberg, Robb Willer, and Chloe Kovacheff.
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Col Hogan wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:08 pm As we watch certain cities burn, there are two things I hope most good people can agree with...

1 - Peaceful protests against injustice such as the killing of George Floyd are justified and the pinnacle of American political expression

2 - The violent riots that followed some of the peaceful protest only benefit the looters and win no support for those involved in #1 above.

And that’s not my opinion...its The findings of a study published in The Journal of Personality and Social Psycology...
The researchers conducted six experiments with 3,399 participants in total, in which they assessed how different types of protest behaviors influenced support for a variety of progressive and conservative social causes, including the Black Lives Matter movement and the anti-abortion movement. They found that more extreme behaviors — such as the use of inflammatory rhetoric, blocking traffic, and vandalism — consistently resulted in reduced support for social movements.

This was true even when participants were already politically or socially sympathetic to the social movement. “We found extreme anti-Trump protest actions actually led people to not only dislike the movement and support the cause less, but to be willing to support Trump more,” Feinberg said. “It was almost like a backlash
https://www.psypost.org/2020/05/new-psy ... ents-56906

The study, “The Activist’s Dilemma: Extreme Protest Actions Reduce Popular Support for Social Movements“, was authored by Matthew Feinberg, Robb Willer, and Chloe Kovacheff.

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Col Hogan wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:08 pm As we watch certain cities burn, there are two things I hope most good people can agree with...

1 - Peaceful protests against injustice such as the killing of George Floyd are justified and the pinnacle of American political expression
Fuck off. Kneeling during the national anthem was peaceful protest. How did that go over?
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Skjellyfetti wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:03 am
Col Hogan wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:08 pm As we watch certain cities burn, there are two things I hope most good people can agree with...

1 - Peaceful protests against injustice such as the killing of George Floyd are justified and the pinnacle of American political expression
Fuck off. Kneeling during the national anthem was peaceful protest. How did that go over?
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This isn't the time for reasoned responses and racist facts and data.

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Skjellyfetti wrote:
Col Hogan wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:08 pm As we watch certain cities burn, there are two things I hope most good people can agree with...

1 - Peaceful protests against injustice such as the killing of George Floyd are justified and the pinnacle of American political expression
Fuck off. Kneeling during the national anthem was peaceful protest. How did that go over?


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What's your point? I don't disagree with anything in Obama's article.
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Change will only start happening when a certain generation dies off...it’s all about the numbers baby. :nod:
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Skjellyfetti wrote:What's your point? I don't disagree with anything in Obama's article.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ pardon me

You sure seemed hostile to the idea just one post ago


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I for one am actually enjoying watching America shit down its own leg in front of the world
while we preach democracy and freedom to anybody that will listen

with a militarized police force just itching to beat down the peasants
Fear not - we'll be back to pointing out how everybody else sucks in two months

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CID1990 wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:25 am
Skjellyfetti wrote:What's your point? I don't disagree with anything in Obama's article.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ pardon me

You sure seemed hostile to the idea just one post ago


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How so?

Was Obama spending the last few years condemning peaceful protest of police brutality and racial injustice? Must have missed it.


My post wasn't against peaceful protest. It was against people saying things like "Peaceful protests against injustice such as the killing of George Floyd are justified and the pinnacle of American political expression" while bitching about that exact same thing being u American, unpatriotic, etc. for the last few years.
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Skjellyfetti wrote:
CID1990 wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:25 am ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ pardon me

You sure seemed hostile to the idea just one post ago


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How so?

Was Obama spending the last few years condemning peaceful protest of police brutality and racial injustice? Must have missed it.


My post wasn't against peaceful protest. It was against people saying things like "Peaceful protests against injustice such as the killing of George Floyd are justified and the pinnacle of American political expression" while bitching about that exact same thing being u American, unpatriotic, etc. for the last few years.
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Chizzang wrote:I for one am actually enjoying watching America shit down its own leg in front of the world
while we preach democracy and freedom to anybody that will listen

with a militarized police force just itching to beat down the peasants
Fear not - we'll be back to pointing out how everybody else sucks in two months

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Does this include driving your car into a crowd?
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Minnesota figured it out after several days of riots after protest.

The combination of bringing the National Guard in, adding a curfew and closing down the main highways, was the key. The Governor said peaceful protest are fine and a right, but after the 8pm curfew, there are no peaceful protesters. On Sunday you could see leaders of the protest working with police, and that was very visible when the Semi drove into the crowd on the I-35 bridge. There were 3 large groups of protesters on Sunday and all were peaceful. Another gathering at the scene of George Floy'd's murder that was peaceful. The curfew began at 8pm and a group of 150 people were arrested almost immediately.

The Minnesota Government listened to the wishes of the protesters and asked Keith Ellison to lead the prosecution.
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Skjellyfetti wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:03 am
Col Hogan wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:08 pm As we watch certain cities burn, there are two things I hope most good people can agree with...

1 - Peaceful protests against injustice such as the killing of George Floyd are justified and the pinnacle of American political expression
Fuck off. Kneeling during the national anthem was peaceful protest. How did that go over?
No one has a right to protest ar work in uniform while representing your employer.
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..But you have to go home now. We have to have peace…
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:13 am
Skjellyfetti wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:03 am
Fuck off. Kneeling during the national anthem was peaceful protest. How did that go over?
No one has a right to protest ar work in uniform while representing your employer.
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:13 am
Skjellyfetti wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:03 am

Fuck off. Kneeling during the national anthem was peaceful protest. How did that go over?
No one has a right to protest ar work in uniform while representing your employer.
It was still peaceful and the 49ers had every right to let him go.
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Skjellyfetti wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:17 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:13 am
No one has a right to protest ar work in uniform while representing your employer.
It was still peaceful and the 49ers had every right to let him go.
Yep. Bunch of snowflakes getting their panties in a bunch over a guy taking a knee.

Where was the outrage over this ...
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I'm inclined to wonder why anyone would think this protest "should be peaceful"

Why..?
What does peaceful get you - for the sake of argument - what is accomplished these days with peace?
Presently I'm not angry and have nothing to protest but I also think there are people who are and do and should

I'm not sure what its going to get them, maybe nothing... in that case what's the difference
some of them seem ready to die for their cause

Seems just as noble as any other cause
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Chizzang wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:43 pm I'm inclined to wonder why anyone would think this protest "should be peaceful"

Why..?
What does peaceful get you - for the sake of argument - what is accomplished these days with peace?
Presently I'm not angry and have nothing to protest but I also think there are people who are and do and should

I'm not sure what its going to get them, maybe nothing... in that case what's the difference
some of them seem ready to die for their cause

Seems just as noble as any other cause
What does burning down the businesses and ruining the livelihoods of thousands of innocent people accomplish? Is that the “price we must all pay” for the death of one man?
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AZGrizFan wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:14 pm
Chizzang wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:43 pm I'm inclined to wonder why anyone would think this protest "should be peaceful"

Why..?
What does peaceful get you - for the sake of argument - what is accomplished these days with peace?
Presently I'm not angry and have nothing to protest but I also think there are people who are and do and should

I'm not sure what its going to get them, maybe nothing... in that case what's the difference
some of them seem ready to die for their cause

Seems just as noble as any other cause
What does burning down the businesses and ruining the livelihoods of thousands of innocent people accomplish? Is that the “price we must all pay” for the death of one man?
one man..?

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no its the price for that exact type of response
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AZGrizFan wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:14 pm
Chizzang wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:43 pm I'm inclined to wonder why anyone would think this protest "should be peaceful"

Why..?
What does peaceful get you - for the sake of argument - what is accomplished these days with peace?
Presently I'm not angry and have nothing to protest but I also think there are people who are and do and should

I'm not sure what its going to get them, maybe nothing... in that case what's the difference
some of them seem ready to die for their cause

Seems just as noble as any other cause
What does burning down the businesses and ruining the livelihoods of thousands of innocent people accomplish? Is that the “price we must all pay” for the death of one man?
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Chizzang wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:43 pm I'm inclined to wonder why anyone would think this protest "should be peaceful"

Why..?
What does peaceful get you - for the sake of argument - what is accomplished these days with peace?
Presently I'm not angry and have nothing to protest but I also think there are people who are and do and should

I'm not sure what its going to get them, maybe nothing... in that case what's the difference
some of them seem ready to die for their cause

Seems just as noble as any other cause
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