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As we watch certain cities burn, there are two things I hope most good people can agree with...

1 - Peaceful protests against injustice such as the killing of George Floyd are justified and the pinnacle of American political expression

2 - The violent riots that followed some of the peaceful protest only benefit the looters and win no support for those involved in #1 above.

And that’s not my opinion...its The findings of a study published in The Journal of Personality and Social Psycology...

The researchers conducted six experiments with 3,399 participants in total, in which they assessed how different types of protest behaviors influenced support for a variety of progressive and conservative social causes, including the Black Lives Matter movement and the anti-abortion movement. They found that more extreme behaviors — such as the use of inflammatory rhetoric, blocking traffic, and vandalism — consistently resulted in reduced support for social movements.

This was true even when participants were already politically or socially sympathetic to the social movement. “We found extreme anti-Trump protest actions actually led people to not only dislike the movement and support the cause less, but to be willing to support Trump more,” Feinberg said. “It was almost like a backlash

https://www.psypost.org/2020/05/new-psy ... ents-56906

The study, “The Activist’s Dilemma: Extreme Protest Actions Reduce Popular Support for Social Movements“, was authored by Matthew Feinberg, Robb Willer, and Chloe Kovacheff.

Col Hogan wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:08 pm As we watch certain cities burn, there are two things I hope most good people can agree with...

1 - Peaceful protests against injustice such as the killing of George Floyd are justified and the pinnacle of American political expression

2 - The violent riots that followed some of the peaceful protest only benefit the looters and win no support for those involved in #1 above.

And that’s not my opinion...its The findings of a study published in The Journal of Personality and Social Psycology...

The researchers conducted six experiments with 3,399 participants in total, in which they assessed how different types of protest behaviors influenced support for a variety of progressive and conservative social causes, including the Black Lives Matter movement and the anti-abortion movement. They found that more extreme behaviors — such as the use of inflammatory rhetoric, blocking traffic, and vandalism — consistently resulted in reduced support for social movements.

This was true even when participants were already politically or socially sympathetic to the social movement. “We found extreme anti-Trump protest actions actually led people to not only dislike the movement and support the cause less, but to be willing to support Trump more,” Feinberg said. “It was almost like a backlash

https://www.psypost.org/2020/05/new-psy ... ents-56906

The study, “The Activist’s Dilemma: Extreme Protest Actions Reduce Popular Support for Social Movements“, was authored by Matthew Feinberg, Robb Willer, and Chloe Kovacheff.

Are you trying to convince the looters on CS.com?

Or are you laying the groundwork for the reasons that Trump will win in November?

Col Hogan wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:08 pm As we watch certain cities burn, there are two things I hope most good people can agree with...

1 - Peaceful protests against injustice such as the killing of George Floyd are justified and the pinnacle of American political expression

2 - The violent riots that followed some of the peaceful protest only benefit the looters and win no support for those involved in #1 above.

And that’s not my opinion...its The findings of a study published in The Journal of Personality and Social Psycology...

The researchers conducted six experiments with 3,399 participants in total, in which they assessed how different types of protest behaviors influenced support for a variety of progressive and conservative social causes, including the Black Lives Matter movement and the anti-abortion movement. They found that more extreme behaviors — such as the use of inflammatory rhetoric, blocking traffic, and vandalism — consistently resulted in reduced support for social movements.

This was true even when participants were already politically or socially sympathetic to the social movement. “We found extreme anti-Trump protest actions actually led people to not only dislike the movement and support the cause less, but to be willing to support Trump more,” Feinberg said. “It was almost like a backlash

https://www.psypost.org/2020/05/new-psy ... ents-56906

The study, “The Activist’s Dilemma: Extreme Protest Actions Reduce Popular Support for Social Movements“, was authored by Matthew Feinberg, Robb Willer, and Chloe Kovacheff.

Hence provocateurs

Col Hogan wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:08 pm As we watch certain cities burn, there are two things I hope most good people can agree with...

1 - Peaceful protests against injustice such as the killing of George Floyd are justified and the pinnacle of American political expression

Fuck off. Kneeling during the national anthem was peaceful protest. How did that go over?

Skjellyfetti wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:03 am

Col Hogan wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:08 pm As we watch certain cities burn, there are two things I hope most good people can agree with...

1 - Peaceful protests against injustice such as the killing of George Floyd are justified and the pinnacle of American political expression

Fuck off. Kneeling during the national anthem was peaceful protest. How did that go over?

This isn't the time for reasoned responses and racist facts and data.

Burn and Pillage!!

Skjellyfetti wrote:

Col Hogan wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:08 pm As we watch certain cities burn, there are two things I hope most good people can agree with...

1 - Peaceful protests against injustice such as the killing of George Floyd are justified and the pinnacle of American political expression

Fuck off. Kneeling during the national anthem was peaceful protest. How did that go over?

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What's your point? I don't disagree with anything in Obama's article.

Change will only start happening when a certain generation dies off...it’s all about the numbers baby.

Skjellyfetti wrote:What's your point? I don't disagree with anything in Obama's article.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ pardon me

You sure seemed hostile to the idea just one post ago


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I for one am actually enjoying watching America shit down its own leg in front of the world
while we preach democracy and freedom to anybody that will listen

with a militarized police force just itching to beat down the peasants
Fear not - we'll be back to pointing out how everybody else sucks in two months



not a smidgen of humility will be derived from this

CID1990 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:25 am

Skjellyfetti wrote:What's your point? I don't disagree with anything in Obama's article.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ pardon me

You sure seemed hostile to the idea just one post ago


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How so?

Was Obama spending the last few years condemning peaceful protest of police brutality and racial injustice? Must have missed it.


My post wasn't against peaceful protest. It was against people saying things like "Peaceful protests against injustice such as the killing of George Floyd are justified and the pinnacle of American political expression" while bitching about that exact same thing being u American, unpatriotic, etc. for the last few years.

Skjellyfetti wrote:

CID1990 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:25 am ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ pardon me

You sure seemed hostile to the idea just one post ago


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How so?

Was Obama spending the last few years condemning peaceful protest of police brutality and racial injustice? Must have missed it.


My post wasn't against peaceful protest. It was against people saying things like "Peaceful protests against injustice such as the killing of George Floyd are justified and the pinnacle of American political expression" while bitching about that exact same thing being u American, unpatriotic, etc. for the last few years.

Whatever floats your boat, Trigger


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Chizzang wrote:I for one am actually enjoying watching America shit down its own leg in front of the world
while we preach democracy and freedom to anybody that will listen

with a militarized police force just itching to beat down the peasants
Fear not - we'll be back to pointing out how everybody else sucks in two months



not a smidgen of humility will be derived from this

Yep, now quit making sense.......... It's weird

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Does this include driving your car into a crowd?

Minnesota figured it out after several days of riots after protest.

The combination of bringing the National Guard in, adding a curfew and closing down the main highways, was the key. The Governor said peaceful protest are fine and a right, but after the 8pm curfew, there are no peaceful protesters. On Sunday you could see leaders of the protest working with police, and that was very visible when the Semi drove into the crowd on the I-35 bridge. There were 3 large groups of protesters on Sunday and all were peaceful. Another gathering at the scene of George Floy'd's murder that was peaceful. The curfew began at 8pm and a group of 150 people were arrested almost immediately.

The Minnesota Government listened to the wishes of the protesters and asked Keith Ellison to lead the prosecution.

Skjellyfetti wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:03 am

Col Hogan wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:08 pm As we watch certain cities burn, there are two things I hope most good people can agree with...

1 - Peaceful protests against injustice such as the killing of George Floyd are justified and the pinnacle of American political expression

Fuck off. Kneeling during the national anthem was peaceful protest. How did that go over?

No one has a right to protest ar work in uniform while representing your employer.

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:13 am

Skjellyfetti wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:03 am
Fuck off. Kneeling during the national anthem was peaceful protest. How did that go over?

No one has a right to protest ar work in uniform while representing your employer.

House Negroes and malcontents need to be put in their place ...

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:13 am

Skjellyfetti wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:03 am

Fuck off. Kneeling during the national anthem was peaceful protest. How did that go over?

No one has a right to protest ar work in uniform while representing your employer.

It was still peaceful and the 49ers had every right to let him go.

Skjellyfetti wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:17 pm

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:13 am
No one has a right to protest ar work in uniform while representing your employer.

It was still peaceful and the 49ers had every right to let him go.

Yep. Bunch of snowflakes getting their panties in a bunch over a guy taking a knee.

Where was the outrage over this ...


And the NFL would never allow a player to promote a personal cause ...


Selective outrage is not a good look.

I'm inclined to wonder why anyone would think this protest "should be peaceful"

Why..?
What does peaceful get you - for the sake of argument - what is accomplished these days with peace?
Presently I'm not angry and have nothing to protest but I also think there are people who are and do and should

I'm not sure what its going to get them, maybe nothing... in that case what's the difference
some of them seem ready to die for their cause

Seems just as noble as any other cause

Chizzang wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:43 pm I'm inclined to wonder why anyone would think this protest "should be peaceful"

Why..?
What does peaceful get you - for the sake of argument - what is accomplished these days with peace?
Presently I'm not angry and have nothing to protest but I also think there are people who are and do and should

I'm not sure what its going to get them, maybe nothing... in that case what's the difference
some of them seem ready to die for their cause

Seems just as noble as any other cause

What does burning down the businesses and ruining the livelihoods of thousands of innocent people accomplish? Is that the “price we must all pay” for the death of one man?

AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:14 pm

Chizzang wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:43 pm I'm inclined to wonder why anyone would think this protest "should be peaceful"

Why..?
What does peaceful get you - for the sake of argument - what is accomplished these days with peace?
Presently I'm not angry and have nothing to protest but I also think there are people who are and do and should

I'm not sure what its going to get them, maybe nothing... in that case what's the difference
some of them seem ready to die for their cause

Seems just as noble as any other cause

What does burning down the businesses and ruining the livelihoods of thousands of innocent people accomplish? Is that the “price we must all pay” for the death of one man?

one man..?



no its the price for that exact type of response
God Bless you AZ you are a treasure - thank you

AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:14 pm

Chizzang wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:43 pm I'm inclined to wonder why anyone would think this protest "should be peaceful"

Why..?
What does peaceful get you - for the sake of argument - what is accomplished these days with peace?
Presently I'm not angry and have nothing to protest but I also think there are people who are and do and should

I'm not sure what its going to get them, maybe nothing... in that case what's the difference
some of them seem ready to die for their cause

Seems just as noble as any other cause

What does burning down the businesses and ruining the livelihoods of thousands of innocent people accomplish? Is that the “price we must all pay” for the death of one man?

Yes
#BlackPrivilege

Chizzang wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:43 pm I'm inclined to wonder why anyone would think this protest "should be peaceful"

Why..?
What does peaceful get you - for the sake of argument - what is accomplished these days with peace?
Presently I'm not angry and have nothing to protest but I also think there are people who are and do and should

I'm not sure what its going to get them, maybe nothing... in that case what's the difference
some of them seem ready to die for their cause

Seems just as noble as any other cause

Violence is seldom the answer and it should be the last resort. My hope is that a MLK Jr type leader emerges who can use the violence as a catalyst for real change.

As Malcolm X said about MLK Jr.

I want Dr. King to know that I didn’t come to Selma to make his job difficult. I really did come thinking I could make it easier. If the white people realize what the alternative is, perhaps they will be more willing to hear Dr. King.

3 books that helped my understanding of what it's like to be an African American:
- Black Like Me (by John Howard Griffin)
- Let the Trumpet Sound: Life of Martin Luther King
- The Autobiography of Malcolm X: As Told to Alex Haley