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Psych paper that sums up difference betwen conks and donks on race

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:49 am
by Pwns
https://psyarxiv.com/pv2ab/

From the Abstract:
Most Whites, particularly socio-political liberals, now endorse racial equality. Archival and experimental research reveals a subtle but reliable ironic consequence: White liberals self-present less competence to minorities than to other Whites—that is, they patronize minorities stereotyped as lower status and less competent.
Probably not really surprising to a lot of people and many have personal experience to back it up, but it's nice to have some data to support that. :nod:

Conservatives think not being racist is not making a priori judgements on individuals based on race, while liberals think what matters is the diversity of artists on your Spotify play-list and how many minority journalists you follow and reTweet on Twitter. It's not surprising that liberals have this completely patronizing attitude.

Re: Psych paper that sums up difference betwen conks and donks on race

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:58 am
by kalm
Pwns wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:49 am https://psyarxiv.com/pv2ab/

From the Abstract:
Most Whites, particularly socio-political liberals, now endorse racial equality. Archival and experimental research reveals a subtle but reliable ironic consequence: White liberals self-present less competence to minorities than to other Whites—that is, they patronize minorities stereotyped as lower status and less competent.
Probably not really surprising to a lot of people and many have personal experience to back it up, but it's nice to have some data to support that. :nod:

Conservatives think not being racist is not making a priori judgements on individuals based on race, while liberals think what matters is the diversity of artists on your Spotify play-list and how many minority journalists you follow and reTweet on Twitter. It's not surprising that liberals have this completely patronizing attitude.
Sooooo...

Appreciating and recognizing race based injustice is bad?

Ok.

Re: Psych paper that sums up difference betwen conks and donks on race

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:07 am
by Baldy
kalm wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:58 am
Pwns wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:49 am https://psyarxiv.com/pv2ab/

From the Abstract:



Probably not really surprising to a lot of people and many have personal experience to back it up, but it's nice to have some data to support that. :nod:

Conservatives think not being racist is not making a priori judgements on individuals based on race, while liberals think what matters is the diversity of artists on your Spotify play-list and how many minority journalists you follow and reTweet on Twitter. It's not surprising that liberals have this completely patronizing attitude.
Sooooo...

Appreciating and recognizing race based injustice is bad?

Ok.
Right on cue. :lol:

Re: Psych paper that sums up difference betwen conks and donks on race

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:54 am
by kalm
Baldy wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:07 am
kalm wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:58 am

Sooooo...

Appreciating and recognizing race based injustice is bad?

Ok.
Right on cue. :lol:
So you think it’s bad? Gotcha! :lol:

FTR I also appreciate when white people with southern accents show some signs of intelligence and open-mindedness. They’ve had to over come quite a bit as well!

:clap:

Re: Psych paper that sums up difference betwen conks and donks on race

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:05 am
by CAA Flagship
kalm wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:54 am
Baldy wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:07 am
Right on cue. :lol:
So you think it’s bad? Gotcha! :lol:

FTR I also appreciate when white people with southern accents show some signs of intelligence and open-mindedness. They’ve had to over come quite a bit as well!

:clap:
Bent grass greens are still better than poa annua greens.....................and it isn't even close. Yes, I'm a grassist.

Re: Psych paper that sums up difference betwen conks and donks on race

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:10 am
by kalm
CAA Flagship wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:05 am
kalm wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:54 am

So you think it’s bad? Gotcha! :lol:

FTR I also appreciate when white people with southern accents show some signs of intelligence and open-mindedness. They’ve had to over come quite a bit as well!

:clap:
Bent grass greens are still better than poa annua greens.....................and it isn't even close. Yes, I'm a grassist.
Depends on the climate. Sage Hills Golf Club and Moses Lake CC in Central Washington had some of the fastest, purest greens I’ve ever putted on back in the day. Pebble ain’t too shabby either...

:coffee:

Re: Psych paper that sums up difference betwen conks and donks on race

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:15 am
by CAA Flagship
kalm wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:10 am
CAA Flagship wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:05 am
Bent grass greens are still better than poa annua greens.....................and it isn't even close. Yes, I'm a grassist.
Depends on the climate. Sage Hills Golf Club and Moses Lake CC in Central Washington had some of the fastest, purest greens I’ve ever putted on back in the day. Pebble ain’t too shabby either...

:coffee:
Pebble is poa. So is Torrey Pines. I'm sure Riviera is too. All shit.

Re: Psych paper that sums up difference betwen conks and donks on race

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:14 pm
by AZGrizFan
Post 5. Possibly the fastest thread hijack on record.

Well done, flaggy!

Re: Psych paper that sums up difference betwen conks and donks on race

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:31 pm
by Baldy
kalm wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:54 am
Baldy wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:07 am
Right on cue. :lol:
So you think it’s bad? Gotcha! :lol:

FTR I also appreciate when white people with southern accents show some signs of intelligence and open-mindedness. They’ve had to over come quite a bit as well!

:clap:
And white people with southern accents love to be patronized by tone deaf lily-white liberals from their 87% lily-white golf club communities.

You're doing a great job, klam. :lol:

Re: Psych paper that sums up difference betwen conks and donks on race

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:35 pm
by GannonFan
Hey, where does wearing African style sashes when doing legislation that could impact Blacks fit in this? Or showing up in a Black church for a photo op when doing the same? Or carrying around some hot sauce when on the campaign trial? Asking for a friend.

Re: Psych paper that sums up difference betwen conks and donks on race

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:51 pm
by CAA Flagship
GannonFan wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:35 pm Hey, where does wearing African style sashes when doing legislation that could impact Blacks fit in this? Or showing up in a Black church for a photo op when doing the same? Or carrying around some hot sauce when on the campaign trial? Asking for a friend.

Re: Psych paper that sums up difference betwen conks and donks on race

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:59 pm
by kalm
Baldy wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:31 pm
kalm wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:54 am

So you think it’s bad? Gotcha! :lol:

FTR I also appreciate when white people with southern accents show some signs of intelligence and open-mindedness. They’ve had to over come quite a bit as well!

:clap:
And white people with southern accents love to be patronized by tone deaf lily-white liberals from their 87% lily-white golf club communities.

You're doing a great job, klam. :lol:
I’m guessing it’s closer to 98% but I’ve never kept track. There’s no need to for me....

:coffee:

Re: Psych paper that sums up difference betwen conks and donks on race

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:22 pm
by SeattleGriz
Pwns wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:49 am https://psyarxiv.com/pv2ab/

From the Abstract:
Most Whites, particularly socio-political liberals, now endorse racial equality. Archival and experimental research reveals a subtle but reliable ironic consequence: White liberals self-present less competence to minorities than to other Whites—that is, they patronize minorities stereotyped as lower status and less competent.
Probably not really surprising to a lot of people and many have personal experience to back it up, but it's nice to have some data to support that. :nod:

Conservatives think not being racist is not making a priori judgements on individuals based on race, while liberals think what matters is the diversity of artists on your Spotify play-list and how many minority journalists you follow and reTweet on Twitter. It's not surprising that liberals have this completely patronizing attitude.
Soft bigotry.

Re: Psych paper that sums up difference betwen conks and donks on race

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:42 pm
by Baldy
kalm wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:59 pm
Baldy wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:31 pm
And white people with southern accents love to be patronized by tone deaf lily-white liberals from their 87% lily-white golf club communities.

You're doing a great job, klam. :lol:
I’m guessing it’s closer to 98% but I’ve never kept track. There’s no need to for me....

:coffee:
Of course not, but it helps when a point needs to be made.
I work, live, eat, and breathe with people of color everyday all day, and I know how much they despise the soft bigotry of low expectations foisted upon them from well-meaning but terribly out of touch SJW's.

Re: Psych paper that sums up difference betwen conks and donks on race

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:46 pm
by kalm
Baldy wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:42 pm
kalm wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:59 pm

I’m guessing it’s closer to 98% but I’ve never kept track. There’s no need to for me....

:coffee:
Of course not, but it helps when a point needs to be made.
I work, live, eat, and breathe with people of color everyday all day, and I know how much they despise the soft bigotry of low expectations foisted upon them from well-meaning but terribly out of touch SJW's.
I simply don’t care about skin color. And hey! I have black and brown friends too!

Re: Psych paper that sums up difference betwen conks and donks on race

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:21 pm
by Pwns
kalm wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:46 pm
Baldy wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:42 pm
Of course not, but it helps when a point needs to be made.
I work, live, eat, and breathe with people of color everyday all day, and I know how much they despise the soft bigotry of low expectations foisted upon them from well-meaning but terribly out of touch SJW's.
I simply don’t care about skin color. And hey! I have black and brown friends too!
Careful kalm.

Commandment #1,243,561 in the Race volume of the woke bible says a white person shall not say "I don't see color" or "I don't care about color".

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But seriously, I've never really got the vibe that you're a hardcore SJW but you'd be surprised at how many things you believe about race you think are enlightened but are considered odious.

Re: Psych paper that sums up difference betwen conks and donks on race

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:07 pm
by JohnStOnge
Interesting. If I'm understanding correctly liberals tend to try to avoid coming off as "acting superior" when they interact with Blacks to a greater extent than conservatives do.

I actually do that myself in day to day interactions. I don't know if I do it for race per se. But I will tone down my vocabulary, etc., based on the "audience."

Re: Psych paper that sums up difference betwen conks and donks on race

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:13 pm
by JohnStOnge
Oh...there's another thing: The reason why conservatives were less likely to present less competence to Blacks could be because they were not as competent as liberals were to begin with. I know that's unpleasant. But it's possible. I'd have to read the whole thing to get a better idea as to the possible impact of that. And I'm not going to read the whole thing.

Again: I am a conservative. But, at the same time, I think that people who are willing to identify as "liberal" have a higher IQ on average than people who are willing to identify as "conservative" do. That could be a factor in the "tone down" thing.

Re: Psych paper that sums up difference betwen conks and donks on race

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:44 pm
by TheDancinMonarch
JohnStOnge wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:13 pm Oh...there's another thing: The reason why conservatives were less likely to present less competence to Blacks could be because they were not as competent as liberals were to begin with. I know that's unpleasant. But it's possible. I'd have to read the whole thing to get a better idea as to the possible impact of that. And I'm not going to read the whole thing.

Again: I am a conservative. But, at the same time, I think that people who are willing to identify as "liberal" have a higher IQ on average than people who are willing to identify as "conservative" do. That could be a factor in the "tone down" thing.
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Re: Psych paper that sums up difference betwen conks and donks on race

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:47 pm
by AZGrizFan
JohnStOnge wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:13 pm Oh...there's another thing: The reason why conservatives were less likely to present less competence to Blacks could be because they were not as competent as liberals were to begin with. I know that's unpleasant. But it's possible. I'd have to read the whole thing to get a better idea as to the possible impact of that. And I'm not going to read the whole thing.

Again: I am a conservative. But, at the same time, I think that people who are willing to identify as "liberal" have a higher IQ on average than people who are willing to identify as "conservative" do. That could be a factor in the "tone down" thing.
Sweet mother of god.

You might want to take the next couple of plays off....

Re: Psych paper that sums up difference betwen conks and donks on race

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:14 pm
by HI54UNI
JohnStOnge wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:07 pm Interesting. If I'm understanding correctly liberals tend to try to avoid coming off as "acting superior" when they interact with Blacks to a greater extent than conservatives do.

I actually do that myself in day to day interactions. I don't know if I do it for race per se. But I will tone down my vocabulary, etc., based on the "audience."
I do the same thing whenever I talk to people from Louisiana.


Re: Psych paper that sums up difference betwen conks and donks on race

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:33 pm
by Gil Dobie
AZGrizFan wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:47 pm
JohnStOnge wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:13 pm Oh...there's another thing: The reason why conservatives were less likely to present less competence to Blacks could be because they were not as competent as liberals were to begin with. I know that's unpleasant. But it's possible. I'd have to read the whole thing to get a better idea as to the possible impact of that. And I'm not going to read the whole thing.

Again: I am a conservative. But, at the same time, I think that people who are willing to identify as "liberal" have a higher IQ on average than people who are willing to identify as "conservative" do. That could be a factor in the "tone down" thing.
Sweet mother of god.

You might want to take the next couple of plays off....
I guess it doesn't take a very high IQ to create a business like Walmart or Koch Industries.

Re: Psych paper that sums up difference betwen conks and donks on race

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 8:14 pm
by kalm
Pwns wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:21 pm
kalm wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:46 pm

I simply don’t care about skin color. And hey! I have black and brown friends too!
Careful kalm.

Commandment #1,243,561 in the Race volume of the woke bible says a white person shall not say "I don't see color" or "I don't care about color".

Image

But seriously, I've never really got the vibe that you're a hardcore SJW but you'd be surprised at how many things you believe about race you think are enlightened but are considered odious.
So please tell me all those things that are considered odious and by whom...

:lol:

Re: Psych paper that sums up difference betwen conks and donks on race

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 5:05 am
by CAA Flagship
JohnStOnge wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:07 pm Interesting. If I'm understanding correctly liberals tend to try to avoid coming off as "acting superior" when they interact with Blacks to a greater extent than conservatives do.

I actually do that myself in day to day interactions. I don't know if I do it for race per se. But I will tone down my vocabulary, etc., based on the "audience."
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Re: Psych paper that sums up difference betwen conks and donks on race

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 6:14 am
by Pwns
kalm wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 8:14 pm
Pwns wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:21 pm

Careful kalm.

Commandment #1,243,561 in the Race volume of the woke bible says a white person shall not say "I don't see color" or "I don't care about color".

Image

But seriously, I've never really got the vibe that you're a hardcore SJW but you'd be surprised at how many things you believe about race you think are enlightened but are considered odious.
So please tell me all those things that are considered odious and by whom...

:lol:
Here's a helpful flow chart.

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