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I haven't read the novel but I enjoyed movie.
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https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/01/media/wh ... index.html
All of these can be true at once:
1. Whoopi shouldn't have been suspended.
2. If she were white she likely would have a much worse punishment and her comments would be viewed as some kind of ugliness or racism.
3. Her comments aren't antisemitism. The Holocaust completely fvcks with the idea that white-skinned people (especially those with disproportionate influence in media and finance and government) can never be victims.
All of these can be true at once:
1. Whoopi shouldn't have been suspended.
2. If she were white she likely would have a much worse punishment and her comments would be viewed as some kind of ugliness or racism.
3. Her comments aren't antisemitism. The Holocaust completely fvcks with the idea that white-skinned people (especially those with disproportionate influence in media and finance and government) can never be victims.
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Re: Cancel Culture thread
Agree.Pwns wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 11:18 am https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/01/media/wh ... index.html
All of these can be true at once:
1. Whoopi shouldn't have been suspended.
2. If she were white she likely would have a much worse punishment and her comments would be viewed as some kind of ugliness or racism.
3. Her comments aren't antisemitism. The Holocaust completely fvcks with the idea that white-skinned people (especially those with disproportionate influence in media and finance and government) can never be victims.
It seems like the Jews are forced into a category of race without the common physical distinctions. It's easy to think of them as white. We all know Italians are not white. But are Portuguese and Spaniards Hispanic? It's why IDGAF about race. It only matters if she is hot or not, and/or crazy or not (See Hot/Crazy Matrix).
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Life is much simpler this way but then I have been called sexist before.CAA Flagship wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 11:41 amAgree.Pwns wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 11:18 am https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/01/media/wh ... index.html
All of these can be true at once:
1. Whoopi shouldn't have been suspended.
2. If she were white she likely would have a much worse punishment and her comments would be viewed as some kind of ugliness or racism.
3. Her comments aren't antisemitism. The Holocaust completely fvcks with the idea that white-skinned people (especially those with disproportionate influence in media and finance and government) can never be victims.
It seems like the Jews are forced into a category of race without the common physical distinctions. It's easy to think of them as white. We all know Italians are not white. But are Portuguese and Spaniards Hispanic? It's why IDGAF about race. It only matters if she is hot or not, and/or crazy or not (See Hot/Crazy Matrix).
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Even Jews will say that they are not wholly a religion, because you can be Jewish without being observant. The Nazis certainly thought so.
I think the reason that Jewishness is conflated with race is because 2500 years ago the only Jews were, in fact, Semites and fairly racially monolithic. But being one of the earliest monotheistic religions, their novel idea attracted all kinds of converts as they spread out of the old Judaea.
Although the Nazis viewed Jews as a race it is probably not a good lead to follow because EVERYTHING was racially quantified and tiered by the Nazis. They literally categorized every racial group in the world according to their future place in or eradication from the Greater Reich. Heck, a lot of the racialist mumbo jumbo coming out of progressives these days relies on precisely some of the same tortured obsessive logic used by the Nazis as well as subsequent regimes like Mao’s China during the cultural revolution.
I understand why Jews in large part will view themselves as an ethnic group but I do not. I view them as a religion observed within every race on the planet (just like the other world religions) and one that has been long maligned by competing religions, particularly Christianity.
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I think the reason that Jewishness is conflated with race is because 2500 years ago the only Jews were, in fact, Semites and fairly racially monolithic. But being one of the earliest monotheistic religions, their novel idea attracted all kinds of converts as they spread out of the old Judaea.
Although the Nazis viewed Jews as a race it is probably not a good lead to follow because EVERYTHING was racially quantified and tiered by the Nazis. They literally categorized every racial group in the world according to their future place in or eradication from the Greater Reich. Heck, a lot of the racialist mumbo jumbo coming out of progressives these days relies on precisely some of the same tortured obsessive logic used by the Nazis as well as subsequent regimes like Mao’s China during the cultural revolution.
I understand why Jews in large part will view themselves as an ethnic group but I do not. I view them as a religion observed within every race on the planet (just like the other world religions) and one that has been long maligned by competing religions, particularly Christianity.
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Whether jews constitute a "race" is semantics. There is no doubt there's a pattern of high achievement in people of Ashkenazi ancestry. And since social justice ideology proffers that any discrepancy between groups of people is created by systemic bias, that would mean that jews actually are among the most "privileged groups". But of course saying things about jews that is woke to to say about white people is antisemitism.
Watching the racially woke try to work around that obvious contradiction is too maddening to even be funny. I've seen where some blue checkmark leftist on Twitter said it's a result of jews being forced into some professions long ago. Yeah, slavery explains white-black discrepancies, but that one ethnic group rounded up across a continent for extermination is okay because of what happened centuries ago.
This is literally not much different than religious fundamentalism. It requires you to believe absurd contradictions.
Watching the racially woke try to work around that obvious contradiction is too maddening to even be funny. I've seen where some blue checkmark leftist on Twitter said it's a result of jews being forced into some professions long ago. Yeah, slavery explains white-black discrepancies, but that one ethnic group rounded up across a continent for extermination is okay because of what happened centuries ago.
This is literally not much different than religious fundamentalism. It requires you to believe absurd contradictions.
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It isn’t just semantics.Pwns wrote:Whether jews constitute a "race" is semantics. There is no doubt there's a pattern of high achievement in people of Ashkenazi ancestry. And since social justice ideology proffers that any discrepancy between groups of people is created by systemic bias, that would mean that jews actually are among the most "privileged groups". But of course saying things about jews that is woke to to say about white people is antisemitism.
Watching the racially woke try to work around that obvious contradiction is too maddening to even be funny. I've seen where some blue checkmark leftist on Twitter said it's a result of jews being forced into some professions long ago. Yeah, slavery explains white-black discrepancies, but that one ethnic group rounded up across a continent for extermination is okay because of what happened centuries ago.
This is literally not much different than religious fundamentalism. It requires you to believe absurd contradictions.
I know plenty of Jews who have zero Semitic heritage. My own Chief of Police, Reuben Greenberg, was as Semitic as I am Nigerian (he was shoe black).
Race is largely a construct of physical perception, anyway. Ultimately it doesnt matter. Jews have historically been persecuted for both religious AND secular reasons and in the grand scheme of who’s a victim and who’s not over history, I give a lot more leeway to the Jews over anybody else… West Africans included
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I’ve never understood how Jews can be a race, but Hispanics are somehow considered White.CAA Flagship wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 11:41 amAgree.Pwns wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 11:18 am https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/01/media/wh ... index.html
All of these can be true at once:
1. Whoopi shouldn't have been suspended.
2. If she were white she likely would have a much worse punishment and her comments would be viewed as some kind of ugliness or racism.
3. Her comments aren't antisemitism. The Holocaust completely fvcks with the idea that white-skinned people (especially those with disproportionate influence in media and finance and government) can never be victims.
It seems like the Jews are forced into a category of race without the common physical distinctions. It's easy to think of them as white. We all know Italians are not white. But are Portuguese and Spaniards Hispanic? It's why IDGAF about race. It only matters if she is hot or not, and/or crazy or not (See Hot/Crazy Matrix).
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Hispanic is an ethnicity - at least the way the government tallies it. You can be white, black, whatever and be Hispanic. Check out the Dominican Republic and Panama.AZGrizFan wrote:I’ve never understood how Jews can be a race, but Hispanics are somehow considered White.CAA Flagship wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 11:41 am Agree.
It seems like the Jews are forced into a category of race without the common physical distinctions. It's easy to think of them as white. We all know Italians are not white. But are Portuguese and Spaniards Hispanic? It's why IDGAF about race. It only matters if she is hot or not, and/or crazy or not (See Hot/Crazy Matrix).
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Yes, I’m aware. But to your earlier point that we view “race” primarily through the lens of “skin color”, how Jews ARE considered a “race” but Hispanics are not is beyond me.CID1990 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 9:19 amHispanic is an ethnicity - at least the way the government tallies it. You can be white, black, whatever and be Hispanic. Check out the Dominican Republic and Panama.AZGrizFan wrote:
I’ve never understood how Jews can be a race, but Hispanics are somehow considered White.
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You can be white, black, or whatever and be Jewish as well. No?
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Well when you’ve been the target of pogroms and attempted extermination for 2500 years you get some benefit of the doubt on how you wang to be regarded. I guessAZGrizFan wrote:Yes, I’m aware. But to your earlier point that we view “race” primarily through the lens of “skin color”, how Jews ARE considered a “race” but Hispanics are not is beyond me.
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Yes but we’re all humans. Same race.Skjellyfetti wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:53 pm You can be white, black, or whatever and be Jewish as well. No?
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Because we're privileged or something.AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 7:24 pmI’ve never understood how Jews can be a race, but Hispanics are somehow considered White.CAA Flagship wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 11:41 am
Agree.
It seems like the Jews are forced into a category of race without the common physical distinctions. It's easy to think of them as white. We all know Italians are not white. But are Portuguese and Spaniards Hispanic? It's why IDGAF about race. It only matters if she is hot or not, and/or crazy or not (See Hot/Crazy Matrix).
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And anyone following the shitlibs trying to cancel Joe Rogan? I mean, do these people even know he can leave Spotify, start his own website with his podcase and make way more that way...and still interview "controversial" people?
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Oh no she didnt! Things just got a whole lot worse for Whoopi..Pwns wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 11:18 am https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/01/media/wh ... index.html
All of these can be true at once:
1. Whoopi shouldn't have been suspended.
2. If she were white she likely would have a much worse punishment and her comments would be viewed as some kind of ugliness or racism.
3. Her comments aren't antisemitism. The Holocaust completely fvcks with the idea that white-skinned people (especially those with disproportionate influence in media and finance and government) can never be victims.
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I don’t understand why Ted Danson ever dated her.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 9:20 pmOh no she didnt! Things just got a whole lot worse for Whoopi..Pwns wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 11:18 am https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/01/media/wh ... index.html
All of these can be true at once:
1. Whoopi shouldn't have been suspended.
2. If she were white she likely would have a much worse punishment and her comments would be viewed as some kind of ugliness or racism.
3. Her comments aren't antisemitism. The Holocaust completely fvcks with the idea that white-skinned people (especially those with disproportionate influence in media and finance and government) can never be victims.
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CNN is really in a paroxysm over Rogan. It's almost as if they are trying to distract from something.
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For those up to date on the Rock's rescinding of his Joe Rogan support because of "racism".
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I keep wondering when they will try the sexist thing for his time hosting the Man Show. Except then they would have to go after Jimmy Kimmel....
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Well there has been over 100 episodes of JRE pulled from Spotify to date, so we'll see how far this goes.
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Not that anyone with a brain could see that these "cancellations" were hit jobs...
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Whoops.