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Re: 2020 General Election

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JohnStOnge wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:03 pm
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Rogan hitting the nail on the head...

As I've said about stuff like that before: Biden is fine. He comes across as more "there" than Trump does. These people can keep trying this and I guess there is some chance it will work. But every time Biden goes public with discussion, answering questions, etc., it gets shot down. Any rational person can see that he's fine and is, in fact, a lot more lucid than Trump is.
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Re: 2020 General Election

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BDKJMU wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:12 pm
JohnStOnge wrote:
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As I've said about stuff like that before: Biden is fine. He comes across as more "there" than Trump does. These people can keep trying this and I guess there is some chance it will work. But every time Biden goes public with discussion, answering questions, etc., it gets shot down. Any rational person can see that he's fine and is, in fact, a lot more lucid than Trump is.
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You can do that all you want. The reality is the reality. When one has the opportunity to actually watch Biden function, he comes across as far more lucid than Trump does.
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Re: 2020 General Election

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JohnStOnge wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:35 pm
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You can do that all you want. The reality is the reality. When one has the opportunity to actually watch Biden function, he comes across as far more lucid than Trump does.
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Re: 2020 General Election

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JohnStOnge wrote:
SDHornet wrote:
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Rogan hitting the nail on the head...

As I've said about stuff like that before: Biden is fine. He comes across as more "there" than Trump does. These people can keep trying this and I guess there is some chance it will work. But every time Biden goes public with discussion, answering questions, etc., it gets shot down. Any rational person can see that he's fine and is, in fact, a lot more lucid than Trump is.
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Biden wont go on Rogan for a podcast, I can tell you that. Or any interview where he gas to give impromptu answers.
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Re: 2020 General Election

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CID1990 wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:02 pm
JohnStOnge wrote:
As I've said about stuff like that before: Biden is fine. He comes across as more "there" than Trump does. These people can keep trying this and I guess there is some chance it will work. But every time Biden goes public with discussion, answering questions, etc., it gets shot down. Any rational person can see that he's fine and is, in fact, a lot more lucid than Trump is.
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Re: 2020 General Election

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Biden using a teleprompter for an "interview". :lol:


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Re: 2020 General Election

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Stone is blatant about conceding the election and waiting to count all votes. Donnie a little more subtle.
“Roger Stone, whose 40-month prison sentence for lying to Congress and witness tampering in the Russia investigation was commuted by Donald Trump, has said Trump should seize total power and jail prominent figures including Bill and Hillary Clinton and Mark Zuckerberg if he loses to Joe Biden in November.”

Stone also said: “The ballots in Nevada on election night should be seized by federal marshals and taken from the state. They are completely corrupted. No votes should be counted from the state of Nevada if that turns out to be the provable case. Send federal marshals to the Clark county board of elections, Mr President!”
Attacking the Nevada governor, Steve Sisolak, a Democrat, he said: “This is the guy we are entrusting with millions of ballots, unsolicited ballots, and we’re supposed to win these states. Who the hell is going to trust him? The only way the Democrats can win the election is if they rig it.”

Trump and his campaign have also consistently claimed without evidence that “antifa”, or anti-fascist, activists represent a deadly threat to suburban voters that will be unleashed should Biden win.

Commenting on a Daily Beast report about leftwing activist groups planning what to do “if the election ends without a clear outcome or with a Biden win that Trump refuses to recognize”, Stone told Jones the website should be shut down.

“If the Daily Beast is involved in provably seditious and illegal activities,” he said, “their entire staff can be taken into custody and their office can be shut down. They wanna play war, this is war.........”
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Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:37 am
Stone is blatant about conceding the election and waiting to count all votes. Donnie a little more subtle.
“Roger Stone, whose 40-month prison sentence for lying to Congress and witness tampering in the Russia investigation was commuted by Donald Trump, has said Trump should seize total power and jail prominent figures including Bill and Hillary Clinton and Mark Zuckerberg if he loses to Joe Biden in November.”

Stone also said: “The ballots in Nevada on election night should be seized by federal marshals and taken from the state. They are completely corrupted. No votes should be counted from the state of Nevada if that turns out to be the provable case. Send federal marshals to the Clark county board of elections, Mr President!”
Attacking the Nevada governor, Steve Sisolak, a Democrat, he said: “This is the guy we are entrusting with millions of ballots, unsolicited ballots, and we’re supposed to win these states. Who the hell is going to trust him? The only way the Democrats can win the election is if they rig it.”

Trump and his campaign have also consistently claimed without evidence that “antifa”, or anti-fascist, activists represent a deadly threat to suburban voters that will be unleashed should Biden win.

Commenting on a Daily Beast report about leftwing activist groups planning what to do “if the election ends without a clear outcome or with a Biden win that Trump refuses to recognize”, Stone told Jones the website should be shut down.

“If the Daily Beast is involved in provably seditious and illegal activities,” he said, “their entire staff can be taken into custody and their office can be shut down. They wanna play war, this is war.........”
You should probably include links when you're quoting articles.

Interesting that he is critical of seditious activities after advocating sedition.

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Re: 2020 General Election

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UNI88 wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 9:03 am
kalm wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:37 am
Stone is blatant about conceding the election and waiting to count all votes. Donnie a little more subtle.



You should probably include links when you're quoting articles.

Interesting that he is critical of seditious activities after advocating sedition.
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Re: 2020 General Election

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Funny how Alex Jones has been warning for decades about "the government is going to do a fascist takeover", and then a criminal associate of the current President proceeds to talk about "saving the election by stopping voters and seizing ballots before they can be counted", along with wanting to "round up journalists for sedition", and the motherf*cker just smiles and nods in agreement with him.

This is fascism. If you agree with Stone, you're a fascist.

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Sun Sep 13, 2020 9:25 am
Funny how Alex Jones has been warning for decades about "the government is going to do a fascist takeover", and then a criminal associate of the current President proceeds to talk about "saving the election by stopping voters and seizing ballots before they can be counted", along with wanting to "round up journalists for sedition", and the motherf*cker just smiles and nods in agreement with him.

This is fascism. If you agree with Stone, you're a fascist.
This is rich coming from you. :lol:

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Re: 2020 General Election

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SDHornet wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:59 am
∞∞∞ wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 9:25 am
Funny how Alex Jones has been warning for decades about "the government is going to do a fascist takeover", and then a criminal associate of the current President proceeds to talk about "saving the election by stopping voters and seizing ballots before they can be counted", along with wanting to "round up journalists for sedition", and the motherf*cker just smiles and nods in agreement with him.

This is fascism. If you agree with Stone, you're a fascist.
This is rich coming from you. :lol:
Arguing socialized healthcare and education, stronger economic protections, environmental regulations, immigration and police reform, Constitutional criticisms...those are policy issues and what makes us a free society.

Undermining elections, stopping voters, seizing ballots, colluding with foreign interests, arresting journalists, painting others as "evil"...that's actual fascism. But projection is a classic tactic which Trump and his merry gang use well: "They're the fascists" say the fascists.
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Re: 2020 General Election

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∞∞∞ wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:15 am
SDHornet wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:59 am


This is rich coming from you. :lol:
Arguing socialized healthcare and education, stronger economic protections, environmental regulations, immigration and police reform, Constitutional criticisms...those are policy issues and parts of a free society. It's not fascism.

Undermining elections, colluding with foreign interests, arresting journalists, painting others as "evil"...that's actual fascism.

But projection is a classic fascist tactic, and it's clearly working on a lot of people.
Bro, Hilldog has yet to concede, and has openly encourage Biden to not concede...so explain to us again how this isn't happening on both sides. :lol:

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Re: 2020 General Election

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SDHornet wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:18 am
∞∞∞ wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:15 am


Arguing socialized healthcare and education, stronger economic protections, environmental regulations, immigration and police reform, Constitutional criticisms...those are policy issues and parts of a free society. It's not fascism.

Undermining elections, colluding with foreign interests, arresting journalists, painting others as "evil"...that's actual fascism.

But projection is a classic fascist tactic, and it's clearly working on a lot of people.
Bro, Hilldog has yet to concede, and has openly encourage Biden to not concede...so explain to us again how this isn't happening on both sides. :lol:
:roll:

You're missing quite a bit of context out of that quote. But hey, this part of American history - if we keep the country going (and I think we will) - wil be studied by future historians for the remarkable propaganda the right-wing was able to pull off.

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Re: 2020 General Election

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∞∞∞ wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:21 am
SDHornet wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:18 am


Bro, Hilldog has yet to concede, and has openly encourage Biden to not concede...so explain to us again how this isn't happening on both sides. :lol:
:roll:

You're missing quite a bit of context out of that quote. But hey, this part of American history - if we keep the country going (and I think we will) - wil be studied by future historians for the remarkable propaganda the right-wing was able to pull off.
Oh, so in your mind no one on the Left has contributed to the undermining of the upcoming election. Mmkay. :roll: :lol:

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Re: 2020 General Election

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SDHornet wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:26 am
∞∞∞ wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:21 am


:roll:

You're missing quite a bit of context out of that quote. But hey, this part of American history - if we keep the country going (and I think we will) - wil be studied by future historians for the remarkable propaganda the right-wing was able to pull off.
Oh, so in your mind no one on the Left has contributed to the undermining of the upcoming election. Mmkay. :roll: :lol:
What the f*ck is this absolute obsession with defending Donald f*cking Trump and his goons?

The President himself is already sowing seeds of doubt before we've even voted, said yesterday that he's "entitled" to more than two terms, and then Roger Stone - a man Trump listens to - says "we should throw out ballots, we should stop people from voting, we should arrest journalists, we should declare martial law" and instead of raising red flags, y'all go "but Hillary..."

Get outta here with that garbage. It's classic fascism, to a tee.

Trump, Stone, and the rest of 'em are on a dangerous path. Trump has no concept of democracy and only gives a sh*t about himself, and Stone has an actual history of trying to illegally steal elections. Policy disagreements are policy disagreements, but these people are trying to royally f*ck America, democracy, and the free world to benefit themselves. And y'all are handing them the keys to do it.

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Re: 2020 General Election

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SDHornet wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:18 am
∞∞∞ wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:15 am


Arguing socialized healthcare and education, stronger economic protections, environmental regulations, immigration and police reform, Constitutional criticisms...those are policy issues and parts of a free society. It's not fascism.

Undermining elections, colluding with foreign interests, arresting journalists, painting others as "evil"...that's actual fascism.

But projection is a classic fascist tactic, and it's clearly working on a lot of people.
Bro, Hilldog has yet to concede, and has openly encourage Biden to not concede...so explain to us again how this isn't happening on both sides. :lol:
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Re: 2020 General Election

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∞∞∞ wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:46 am
SDHornet wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:26 am

Oh, so in your mind no one on the Left has contributed to the undermining of the upcoming election. Mmkay. :roll: :lol:
What the f*ck is this absolute obsession with defending Donald f*cking Trump and his goons?

The President himself is already sowing seeds of doubt before we've even voted, said yesterday that he's "entitled" to more than two terms, and then Roger Stone - a man Trump listens to - says "we should throw out ballots, we should stop people from voting, we should arrest journalists, we should declare martial law" and instead of raising red flags, y'all go "but Hillary..."

Get outta here with that garbage. It's classic fascism, to a tee.

Trump, Stone, and the rest of 'em are on a dangerous path. Trump has no concept of democracy and only gives a sh*t about himself, and Stone has an actual history of trying to illegally steal elections. Policy disagreements are policy disagreements, but these people are trying to royally f*ck America, democracy, and the free world to benefit themselves. And y'all are handing them the keys to do it.
What Stone, Trump and others have said does scare me. So do the words and actions of people like Bernie, AOC, Ted Wheeler and others.

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Re: 2020 General Election

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UNI88 wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 1:42 pm
∞∞∞ wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:46 am


What the f*ck is this absolute obsession with defending Donald f*cking Trump and his goons?

The President himself is already sowing seeds of doubt before we've even voted, said yesterday that he's "entitled" to more than two terms, and then Roger Stone - a man Trump listens to - says "we should throw out ballots, we should stop people from voting, we should arrest journalists, we should declare martial law" and instead of raising red flags, y'all go "but Hillary..."

Get outta here with that garbage. It's classic fascism, to a tee.

Trump, Stone, and the rest of 'em are on a dangerous path. Trump has no concept of democracy and only gives a sh*t about himself, and Stone has an actual history of trying to illegally steal elections. Policy disagreements are policy disagreements, but these people are trying to royally f*ck America, democracy, and the free world to benefit themselves. And y'all are handing them the keys to do it.
What Stone, Trump and others have said does scare me. So do the words and actions of people like Bernie, AOC, Ted Wheeler and others.
Trump doesn't scare me, nor does Stone, nor anyone in their merry gang. History will remember them as the garbage people they are and that delights me to no end. I look around America and see a country that has a very bright future ahead, positioned to once again be a global leader for democracy, freedom, science, trade, and enlightenment ideals. Be afraid of changing policies if you want, but the fact so many ordinary people are pushing back against fascist tendencies gives me solace this country will be ok.

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Re: 2020 General Election

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∞∞∞ wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 2:15 pm
UNI88 wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 1:42 pm

What Stone, Trump and others have said does scare me. So do the words and actions of people like Bernie, AOC, Ted Wheeler and others.
Trump doesn't scare me, nor does Stone, nor anyone in their merry gang. History will remember them as the garbage people they are and that delights me to no end. I look around America and see a country that has a very bright future ahead, positioned to once again be a global leader for democracy, freedom, science, trade, and enlightenment ideals. Be afraid of changing policies if you want, but the fact so many ordinary people are pushing back against fascist tendencies gives me solace this country will be ok.
You criticize Trump for fascism but say nothing about antifa and BLM using fascist (intimidation & violence) tactics which is tacitly endorsed by Democratic leaders. Why don't you push back against that fascism? Or is fascism in pursuit of outcomes you support ok?

I'm not afraid of truly progressive (i.e. new) policies and ideas. I'm afraid of people that want to rehash policies and ideas that have repeatedly failed which is what Bernie and AOC want to do. Ted Wheeler is a modern day domestic Neville Chamberlain, appeasing rioters and looters.

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Re: 2020 General Election

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∞∞∞ wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:15 am
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This is rich coming from you. :lol:
Arguing socialized healthcare and education, stronger economic protections, environmental regulations, immigration and police reform, Constitutional criticisms...those are policy issues and what makes us a free society.

Undermining elections, stopping voters, seizing ballots, colluding with foreign interests, arresting journalists, painting others as "evil"...that's actual fascism. But projection is a classic tactic which Trump and his merry gang use well: "They're the fascists" say the fascists.
Hats off to Trip framing Obama as a fascist. :lol:

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Re: 2020 General Election

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Baldy wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 3:32 pm
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Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:15 am


Arguing socialized healthcare and education, stronger economic protections, environmental regulations, immigration and police reform, Constitutional criticisms...those are policy issues and what makes us a free society.

Undermining elections, stopping voters, seizing ballots, colluding with foreign interests, arresting journalists, painting others as "evil"...that's actual fascism. But projection is a classic tactic which Trump and his merry gang use well: "They're the fascists" say the fascists.
Hats off to Trip framing Obama as a fascist. :lol:
Baldy, you're projecting ... :mrgreen:

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Re: 2020 General Election

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UNI88 wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:18 pm
Baldy wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 3:32 pm

Hats off to Trip framing Obama as a fascist. :lol:
Baldy, you're projecting ... :mrgreen:
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Re: 2020 General Election

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UNI88 wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:18 pm
Baldy wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 3:32 pm

Hats off to Trip framing Obama as a fascist. :lol:
Baldy, you're projecting ... :mrgreen:
I keep trying to tell you guys that Biden is center right.

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