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UNI88 wrote:
Mon Oct 19, 2020 1:20 pm
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I'm missing your point. What Russian agents was Guliani hanging out with?
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I've been in meetings all day. Has "The Big Man" stated if the emails pulled off Hunter's hard drive are real or not? :?:

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kalm wrote:
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Russia? Again? Paging jelly. :rofl:
So Giuliani hangs out with some Russian agents, tge Whitehouse was warned of this, then Giuliani ends up delivering the goods to the NYP.

Sounds legit. :lol:
There you go again, stuck on Russia, Russia, Russia! :lol:
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BDKJMU wrote:
Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:18 pm
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So Giuliani hangs out with some Russian agents, tge Whitehouse was warned of this, then Giuliani ends up delivering the goods to the NYP.

Sounds legit. :lol:
There you go again, stuck on Russia, Russia, Russia! :lol:
I’m sure Hunter Biden had some nefarious dealings with the Ukrainians/Russians, whoever. To not imagine Trump and Co do also is the laughable part.
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Re: 2020 General Election

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washin ... utType=amp

This probably why the NYP has trouble finding anyone in their news org to sign off on the byline.
Okay. It was pretty well known Guliani was trying to dig up information on Biden in Ukraine, but how does that negate Hunters laptop AND the non denial denials from the Biden camp?

WaPo peddled Russian disinformation, so I guess they have that going for them. Love how WaPo's "sources" are unnamed! Can't make this up.
At the time I remember wondering what super secret deep intel authority Old Rudy was operating under.

The FBI has the same info but it took Rudy to blow the doors off this grand conspiracy. :lol:
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BDKJMU wrote:
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Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:09 pm
So Giuliani hangs out with some Russian agents, tge Whitehouse was warned of this, then Giuliani ends up delivering the goods to the NYP.

Sounds legit. :lol:
There you go again, stuck on Russia, Russia, Russia! :lol:
I wish that we could learn from Obama, who in 2012 schooled Romney that Russians were a threat in the last century not this one, and was then caught on a hot mike telling an aide to tell Putin once he was re-elected Obama would have more leeway to do what Putin wanted.


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BDKJMU wrote: There you go again, stuck on Russia, Russia, Russia! :lol:
I wish that we could learn from Obama, who in 2012 schooled Romney that Russians were a threat in the last century not this one, and was then caught on a hot mike telling an aide to tell Putin once he was re-elected Obama would have more leeway to do what Putin wanted.


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I keep asking that as well. How is it that Obama was able to tell Romney that the 80's wanted their foreign policy back, but in those four short years, the Russians were under every bed with hookers and in every Mac laptop shop. What did Obama do to allow them to gain such a foothold? I think you hit the nail on the head with Obama "being more flexible".
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kalm wrote:
Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:51 pm
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Okay. It was pretty well known Guliani was trying to dig up information on Biden in Ukraine, but how does that negate Hunters laptop AND the non denial denials from the Biden camp?

WaPo peddled Russian disinformation, so I guess they have that going for them. Love how WaPo's "sources" are unnamed! Can't make this up.
At the time I remember wondering what super secret deep intel authority Old Rudy was operating under.

The FBI has the same info but it took Rudy to blow the doors off this grand conspiracy. :lol:
You mean the same FBI that beclowned themselves over Russia collusion? I think we both know why Rudy had to take the lead on this one.

On a more serious note, it'll be interesting to see what Wray has to say in a couple days.
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Watch at least the first three minutes and let me know if you think this is a real problem.

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Watch at least the first three minutes and let me know if you think this is a real problem.

Is it a problem? Yes.

Do Donks care? Not in the least. :roll: :roll:
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AZGrizFan wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:49 am
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Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:07 am
Watch at least the first three minutes and let me know if you think this is a real problem.

Is it a problem? Yes.

Do Donks care? Not in the least. :roll: :roll:
Maybe many of them are just holding their noses and voting for him because they think he's the lesser of two evils. :D

They're both despicable piles of sh!t.

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UNI88 wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:13 am
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Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:49 am


Is it a problem? Yes.

Do Donks care? Not in the least. :roll: :roll:
Maybe many of them are just holding their noses and voting for him because they think he's the lesser of two evils. :D

They're both despicable piles of sh!t.
You're missing the point. It's not that they're not both miserable piles of shit. It's that the 4th estate is openly ROOTING for one side over the other. The media has become the lapdog of the left. It's out in the wide open now.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:30 pm
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Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:13 am

Maybe many of them are just holding their noses and voting for him because they think he's the lesser of two evils. :D

They're both despicable piles of sh!t.
You're missing the point. It's not that they're not both miserable piles of shit. It's that the 4th estate is openly ROOTING for one side over the other. The media has become the lapdog of the left. It's out in the wide open now.
Am I? How the mainstream media is treating Biden compared to Trump is absolutely wrong. But the guy in that video is a hypocrite - he points out the inequity ("goes to show you how corrupt everything about the Biden operation is") and then proceeds to be a Trump lapdog - "whatever you think about him, Trump is genuine." Trump might be getting the short-end of the stick from a town hall perspective but unless he admits that he just wants to win and he doesn't give a sh!t about anyone else then he's about as genuine as a $3 bill.

I'm concerned because we have people on both sides blindly licking up whatever their chosen "messiah" is spewing out.

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UNI88 wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:40 pm
AZGrizFan wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:30 pm


You're missing the point. It's not that they're not both miserable piles of shit. It's that the 4th estate is openly ROOTING for one side over the other. The media has become the lapdog of the left. It's out in the wide open now.
Am I? How the mainstream media is treating Biden compared to Trump is absolutely wrong. But the guy in that video is a hypocrite - he points out the inequity ("goes to show you how corrupt everything about the Biden operation is") and then proceeds to be a Trump lapdog - "whatever you think about him, Trump is genuine." Trump might be getting the short-end of the stick from a town hall perspective but unless he admits that he just wants to win and he doesn't give a sh!t about anyone else then he's about as genuine as a $3 bill.

I'm concerned because we have people on both sides blindly licking up whatever their chosen "messiah" is spewing out.
I think he meant genuine from the standpoint of "his answers aren't prepared" because it's not preloaded and rehearsed, so you get Trump at his raw best or worst. He's genuine. And you either like him or don't like him. As opposed to Biden's performance in a well rehearsed play which is DESIGNED to make you like him, or think he's more capable than he really is.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:30 pm
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Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:13 am


Maybe many of them are just holding their noses and voting for him because they think he's the lesser of two evils. :D

They're both despicable piles of sh!t.
You're missing the point. It's not that they're not both miserable piles of shit. It's that the 4th estate is openly ROOTING for one side over the other. The media has become the lapdog of the left. It's out in the wide open now.
So you haven't heard that the next debate won't be on foreign policy because, you know, Hunter and stuff. Not to mention the changing of the debate rules days before the debate.

Yeah this whole thing is rigged.

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AZGrizFan wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:30 pm
UNI88 wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:13 am


Maybe many of them are just holding their noses and voting for him because they think he's the lesser of two evils. :D

They're both despicable piles of sh!t.
You're missing the point. It's not that they're not both miserable piles of shit. It's that the 4th estate is openly ROOTING for one side over the other. The media has become the lapdog of the left. It's out in the wide open now.
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BDKJMU wrote:
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It'll still be 60-40 Biden. A wasted and pointless trip for Trump.
Not wasted/pointless...He wasn‘t going for CA votes..
“Everyone assumes he’s going to go to battleground states. No one really thinks about how Orange County, California, is an ATM machine,” said Jon Fleischman, a former state GOP official....

...The scene unfolded in one of the wealthiest communities in Orange County — a longtime conservative citadel that shaped Ronald Reagan’s politics and is Richard Nixon’s resting place but voted Democratic in the 2016 presidential election for the first time since the Great Depression. Last year, the number of registered Democrats outpaced the number of registered Republicans. But the county remains home to a cadre of deep-pocketed GOP donors.

Tickets to the Newport Beach fundraiser started at $2,800 per person and peaked at $150,000 per couple for co-chair status...
https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/ ... california

Plus he had rally in Carson City, NV yesterday, and Prescott and Tuscon, today, so he was already near the West Coast..Maybe even stayed last night..
Those people will donate regardless. It was a wasted trip where that time would have been better spent in AZ or NV.

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kalm wrote:
Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:09 pm
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Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:09 am


Russia? Again? Paging jelly. :rofl:
So Giuliani hangs out with some Russian agents, tge Whitehouse was warned of this, then Giuliani ends up delivering the goods to the NYP.

Sounds legit. :lol:
Isn't that what we heard about the pee tapes. How'd that work out? :lol:

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UNI88 wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:40 pm
Am I? How the mainstream media is treating Biden compared to Trump is absolutely wrong. But the guy in that video is a hypocrite - he points out the inequity ("goes to show you how corrupt everything about the Biden operation is") and then proceeds to be a Trump lapdog - "whatever you think about him, Trump is genuine." Trump might be getting the short-end of the stick from a town hall perspective but unless he admits that he just wants to win and he doesn't give a sh!t about anyone else then he's about as genuine as a $3 bill.

I'm concerned because we have people on both sides blindly licking up whatever their chosen "messiah" is spewing out.
Yes, you are missing the point by trying to justify the one sidedness of the media by people falling for it. Here's where I have a problem. These are completely made up numbers but I think:

50% of conservatives think Fox is one-sided (99% of liberals do)

20% of liberals think NBC, CBS, ABC are one-sided

I hate to tell you but after watching many hours of Fox, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC and CBS, Fox offers the most balanced news, BUT that's only 80/20. The others are all 98/2.
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SDHornet wrote:
Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:11 am
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Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:07 am


He did get 4 million votes in California in the last election, there are certainly people there who will vote for him. Problem was, Hillary got 8 million votes. I don't think CA is turning red this time around.
It'll still be 60-40 Biden. A wasted and pointless trip for Trump.
I'll take the under on that 20 point spread, Alex. :nod: :nod: :nod:
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89Hen wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:26 pm
UNI88 wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:40 pm
Am I? How the mainstream media is treating Biden compared to Trump is absolutely wrong. But the guy in that video is a hypocrite - he points out the inequity ("goes to show you how corrupt everything about the Biden operation is") and then proceeds to be a Trump lapdog - "whatever you think about him, Trump is genuine." Trump might be getting the short-end of the stick from a town hall perspective but unless he admits that he just wants to win and he doesn't give a sh!t about anyone else then he's about as genuine as a $3 bill.

I'm concerned because we have people on both sides blindly licking up whatever their chosen "messiah" is spewing out.
Yes, you are missing the point by trying to justify the one sidedness of the media by people falling for it. Here's where I have a problem. These are completely made up numbers but I think:

50% of conservatives think Fox is one-sided (99% of liberals do)

20% of liberals think NBC, CBS, ABC are one-sided

I hate to tell you but after watching many hours of Fox, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC and CBS, Fox offers the most balanced news, BUT that's only 80/20. The others are all 98/2.
Not to mention Fox has been correct about all the made up crimes levied at Trump. Oh yeah, Covington Catholic as well.

Makes you start to wonder how much was true in the Obama years as well.
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89Hen wrote:
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Watch at least the first three minutes and let me know if you think this is a real problem.

I watched a few minutes. Why do you believe crap like that? There was absolutely no evidence for anything the guy was saying.
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I'm sure by now you've seen the Wall Street Journal op ed by William McRaven. You know, the guy who was in charge of US Special Operations during the Bin Laden raid. Here it is:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-will ... 1603127677
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UNI88 wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:13 am
AZGrizFan wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:49 am


Is it a problem? Yes.

Do Donks care? Not in the least. :roll: :roll:
Maybe many of them are just holding their noses and voting for him because they think he's the lesser of two evils. :D

They're both despicable piles of sh!t.
No they are not....but one is.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:30 pm
UNI88 wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:13 am


Maybe many of them are just holding their noses and voting for him because they think he's the lesser of two evils. :D

They're both despicable piles of sh!t.
You're missing the point. It's not that they're not both miserable piles of shit. It's that the 4th estate is openly ROOTING for one side over the other. The media has become the lapdog of the left. It's out in the wide open now.
But half the country watches Faux News......so let's call it even.

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