UNI88 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:32 am
kalm wrote: ↑Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:38 am
So we agree then that Trump is a colossal asshole for accusing doctors of fraud and that no evidence of this happening is available.
Are administrators instructing doctors to select COVID as COD when possible? Probably.
Trump is a colossal asshole for a variety of reasons.
Trump accusing doctors (or anyone) of fraud is ironic.
Here is the whole quote for context. He didn't accuse doctors of fraud. He stated a fact.
“You know in Germany,” he told a crowd in Waterford Township, Michigan, “if you have a bad heart and you’re ready to die or if you have cancer and you’re going to be dying soon, and you catch COVID, that happens we mark it down to COVID. You know our doctors get more money if somebody dies from COVID, you know that, right. I mean our doctors are very smart people. So what they do is they say is, I’m but you know sorry everybody dies of COVID. But in Germany and other places, if you have a heart attack or you have cancer, you’re terminally ill, you catch COVID, they say you died of cancer, you died of a heart attack. With us, when in doubt, choose COVID. It’s true, no it’s true. No, they’ll say, Oh it’s terrible what he said, but it’s true. It’s like $2,000 more. So you get more money. This could only happen to us.”
If you are intellectually honest, you can see Trump is bemoaning the fact that we have incentivized COVID diagnosis with our medical community. While I'm fine with this, he is simply pointing out how the uninformed keep trying to nail him on COVID deaths, because there are many factors the average person does not understand.
For example, what constitutes a COVID death? Do you know without looking it up?
Here is an article about the disparity in COVID deaths around the World.
https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectious ... id19/86527
Another possible explanation is that countries define and report COVID-19-related deaths differently, and those methods changed over time. In the early phases of the epidemic in mainland China, the first few versions of case definition required that up to six criteria needed to be met, which probably underestimated cases by five-fold. As of April 14, 2020, the new CDC guidelines include counting both confirmed and probable cases, which depended on doctors' judgment based on symptoms and contact history. The attribution of cause of death to COVID-19 probably varies by country, especially since most of these deaths occur in people with chronic illnesses.
Why do you think I keep asking the question of Gil and Klam what constitutes a COVID death or even a case? You need to compare apples to apples on that front, but the Libs keep trying to use it as a means to hammer Trump.