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For some reason using the court system for lawsuits is a threat to democracy but it's okay for a president elect to equivocate (with goading from congress and the media) on whether to expand SCOTUS and basically make it an arm of the senate.
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SDHornet wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:30 am
Or they’re not into representing crazy.

Shapiro? I see your transformation is now complete. :D
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NC the MSM (looking at NBC now) showing Trump up 50% to 48.6%, 73k votes, showing 39+k expected remaining votes, but NC is still too close to call. :suspicious: Yet 3 states that are far closer % wise (AZ, WI, PA) they called WAY earlier. Obviously there’s 1 standard for calling states for Biden, and another for Trump..
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kalm wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:03 am
SDHornet wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:30 am
Or they’re not into representing crazy.

Shapiro? I see your transformation is now complete. :D
If that were the issue they would have never taken the Trump case to begin with.

And Shapiro is a never Trumper who only supported Trump because the DNC went full Marxist retard.
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kalm wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:03 am Shapiro? I see your transformation is now complete. :D
He's far more logical and level headed than a vast majority of the talking heads on both sides. :coffee:
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kalm wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:03 am Or they’re not into representing crazy.

Shapiro? I see your transformation is now complete. :D
If that were the issue they would have never taken the Trump case to begin with.

And Shapiro is a never Trumper who only supported Trump because the DNC went full Marxist retard.
Everyone has the right to contest an election. But when not having any evidence of wrong doing, a lawsuit must seem frivolous to the experts.


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BDKJMU wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:34 am NC the MSM (looking at NBC now) showing Trump up 50% to 48.6%, 73k votes, showing 39+k expected remaining votes, but NC is still too close to call. :suspicious: Yet 3 states that are far closer % wise (AZ, WI, PA) they called WAY earlier. Obviously there’s 1 standard for calling states for Biden, and another for Trump..
Well, they finally called NC, led by the AP a couple of hours ago. And of course, all the MSM in collusion soon followed..
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Ibanez wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:06 am Just saw the President Lawyer argued in court that this isn’t about fraud or stealing an election.



But Langhofer diverted sharply on Thursday from his boss' messaging. "This is not a fraud case. We are not alleging fraud. We are not saying anyone is trying to steal the election," the lawyer said during the evidentiary hearing.

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-campaign ... 7018?amp=1


I’m confused. I thought this WAS about fraud and stealing the election. Someone isn’t following the talking points.


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From my understanding, this is about illegal vs legal votes. Is it fair that standards of proof are lowered so much that a mail in ballot gets counted when it doesn't meet it's prerequisites versus a walk in voter?

An extreme example, but are votes deemed equal if one person simply scribbles on a piece of paper versus someone who shows up and is required to show ID?

Who scribbled on the paper? Was the person they claimed to be even alive? You lower that burden of proof and you have no way to determine who actually submitted the ballot. See what I'm getting at?

Claiming fraud rolls off the tongue better. Incites more anger!! Lol
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Ibanez wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:10 am
Baldy wrote: You Leftists are psychotic. Just two short years ago you people were screaming for paper ballots because you didn't trust the machines, but now you're screaming how much more accurate the machines are.

You people are fucking nuts. :lol:
That’s was 2016. Things change. Hypocrisy is post partisan.

I find it psychotic that people distrusts scientists, election experts, defense experts, cyber security experts and more BUT they’ll believe a known liar/reality tv star on everything because he’s the President. There’s a logically disconnect there.


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No, it was in full force during the 2018 midterm elections. All I have to do is point you to the 2018 governor's race in Georgia. You know, the race that Stacy Abrams still hasn't conceded. Incessant screaming about paper ballots because they couldn't trust results from voting machines.
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I have an idea. If you want to ferret out voter/ballot fraud, start offering $$$ rewards.
-$$$ Rewards for a tip that leads to the discovery of illegally cast vote(s). Maybe $500 per vote, or something like that.
-$$$ Rewards (at least 5 figure) for tips that lead to arrests and convictions for voter fraud.
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Skjellyfetti wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:36 am
BDKJMU wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 5:46 pm I saw your boy Nate Silver at 538 had the national polling avg at Biden +8.4. So he was WAY off. But the national polling is irrelevant. All that matters is the swing states. 538 was also further off than the RCP at swing states (maybe because 538 excluded Trafalgar). If you remove Trafalgar from some of these RCP pre election averages, its looks even worse for the polls in that they would be 1 to 2 points even further off for Biden (like 538).
Your boy Trafalgar did even worse at swing states. 538 missed 2.

Your boy missed MI, AZ, GA, NV, and PA and had the wrong guy winning.
So did Larry Sabato, and he is usually better than all of them.
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Baldy wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:50 pm lulz

Just like Don, there’s always a tweet.
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AZGrizFan wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:23 pm
Baldy wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:50 pm lulz

Just like Don, there’s always a tweet.
Hell, aren't they still upholding "brave" Stacy Abrams and her stolen election?
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:23 am
houndawg wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 6:40 am

Its time to put up or shut up. :coffee:
Awesome! I anxiously await you putting up proof of Russian collusion and Putin's ownership of Trump.
none so blind as he who will not see....hold your water and soon you'll get Vladimir's first-hand account of his satifying relationship with the Donald.
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houndawg wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:24 am
UNI88 wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:23 am
Awesome! I anxiously await you putting up proof of Russian collusion and Putin's ownership of Trump.
none so blind as he who will not see....hold your water and soon you'll get Vladimir's first-hand account of his satifying relationship with the Donald.
Funny, I feel the same way about pseudo-progressives like Bernie and AOChe who demonstrate little to no understanding of economics, human nature and diversity of ideas.
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UNI88 wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:30 am
houndawg wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:24 am

none so blind as he who will not see....hold your water and soon you'll get Vladimir's first-hand account of his satifying relationship with the Donald.
Funny, I feel the same way about pseudo-progressives like Bernie and AOChe who demonstrate little to no understanding of economics, human nature and diversity of ideas.
I think AOC has a good understanding of human nature, like any good bartender. :coffee:
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houndawg wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:24 am
UNI88 wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:23 am

Awesome! I anxiously await you putting up proof of Russian collusion and Putin's ownership of Trump.
none so blind as he who will not see....hold your water and soon you'll get Vladimir's first-hand account of his satifying relationship with the Donald.
:flag: Chizzy answer!
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SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:36 am
houndawg wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:24 am

none so blind as he who will not see....hold your water and soon you'll get Vladimir's first-hand account of his satifying relationship with the Donald.
:flag: Chizzy answer!
Trump says he's going to release the unredacted Mueller report - be patient.
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houndawg wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:34 am
UNI88 wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:30 am
Funny, I feel the same way about pseudo-progressives like Bernie and AOChe who demonstrate little to no understanding of economics, human nature and diversity of ideas.
I think AOC has a good understanding of human nature, like any good bartender. :coffee:
She seems arrogantly oblivious to the mindset of Donk voters in West Virginia, rural Virginia, etc. as well as the importance of holding those seats in order to have majorities in both houses of Congress. Does she want to self-righteously double down on her ideological positions or does she want to recognize and respect the diversity of the ideas within the Donk base and have a chance to actually get something done?
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UNI88 wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:26 am
houndawg wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:34 am

I think AOC has a good understanding of human nature, like any good bartender. :coffee:
She seems arrogantly oblivious to the mindset of Donk voters in West Virginia, rural Virginia, etc. as well as the importance of holding those seats in order to have majorities in both houses of Congress. Does she want to self-righteously double down on her ideological positions or does she want to recognize and respect the diversity of the ideas within the Donk base and have a chance to actually get something done?
She struggles with majority concepts as well.

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UNI88 wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:26 am
houndawg wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:34 am

I think AOC has a good understanding of human nature, like any good bartender. :coffee:
She seems arrogantly oblivious to the mindset of Donk voters in West Virginia, rural Virginia, etc. as well as the importance of holding those seats in order to have majorities in both houses of Congress. Does she want to self-righteously double down on her ideological positions or does she want to recognize and respect the diversity of the ideas within the Donk base and have a chance to actually get something done?
You'd have to ask her about that but I don't see any sign that she's all that inflexible. She represents a new generation and they think different. And time is on her side. And the sooner this iteration of the DNC hits the rubbish heap the better.
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houndawg wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 12:26 pm
UNI88 wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:26 am
She seems arrogantly oblivious to the mindset of Donk voters in West Virginia, rural Virginia, etc. as well as the importance of holding those seats in order to have majorities in both houses of Congress. Does she want to self-righteously double down on her ideological positions or does she want to recognize and respect the diversity of the ideas within the Donk base and have a chance to actually get something done?
You'd have to ask her about that but I don't see any sign that she's all that inflexible. She represents a new generation and they think different. And time is on her side. And the sooner this iteration of the DNC hits the rubbish heap the better.
Getting her hackles up over Manchin and moderate Dems shows she doesn't understand the thinking of voters in other districts and their importance to a Democratic majority. It's short-sighted and foolish. She thinks she's right and everyone else just needs to get on board or be left behind = arrogant & self-righteous.
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houndawg wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 12:26 pm
UNI88 wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:26 am

She seems arrogantly oblivious to the mindset of Donk voters in West Virginia, rural Virginia, etc. as well as the importance of holding those seats in order to have majorities in both houses of Congress. Does she want to self-righteously double down on her ideological positions or does she want to recognize and respect the diversity of the ideas within the Donk base and have a chance to actually get something done?
You'd have to ask her about that but I don't see any sign that she's all that inflexible. She represents a new generation and they think different. And time is on her side. And the sooner this iteration of the DNC hits the rubbish heap the better.
You sound exactly like my oldest...and that’s a compliment.

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