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Re: 2020 General Election

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I'm shocked! No coordinated "insurrection".

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclus ... 021-08-20/
WASHINGTON, Aug 20 (Reuters) - The FBI has found scant evidence that the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was the result of an organized plot to overturn the presidential election result, according to four current and former law enforcement officials.

Though federal officials have arrested more than 570 alleged participants, the FBI at this point believes the violence was not centrally coordinated by far-right groups or prominent supporters of then-President Donald Trump, according to the sources, who have been either directly involved in or briefed regularly on the wide-ranging investigations.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:05 am I'm shocked! No coordinated "insurrection".

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclus ... 021-08-20/
WASHINGTON, Aug 20 (Reuters) - The FBI has found scant evidence that the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was the result of an organized plot to overturn the presidential election result, according to four current and former law enforcement officials.

Though federal officials have arrested more than 570 alleged participants, the FBI at this point believes the violence was not centrally coordinated by far-right groups or prominent supporters of then-President Donald Trump, according to the sources, who have been either directly involved in or briefed regularly on the wide-ranging investigations.
Good.



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Re: 2020 General Election

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Ibanez wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:07 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:05 am I'm shocked! No coordinated "insurrection".

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclus ... 021-08-20/

Good.



Are we back to trusting the FBI?
Not at all. After their debacle in Michigan and then their supposed inability to sniff out the "insurrection", it smells like they were involved in Jan 6th and want investigation stopped now.
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Ibanez wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:07 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:05 am I'm shocked! No coordinated "insurrection".

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclus ... 021-08-20/

Good.



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SeattleGriz wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 1:01 pm
Ibanez wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:07 am

Good.



Are we back to trusting the FBI?
Not at all. After their debacle in Michigan and then their supposed inability to sniff out the "insurrection", it smells like they were involved in Jan 6th and want investigation stopped now.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 1:01 pm
Ibanez wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:07 am

Good.



Are we back to trusting the FBI?
Not at all. After their debacle in Michigan and then their supposed inability to sniff out the "insurrection", it smells like they were involved in Jan 6th and want investigation stopped now.
The FBI wasn't involved in January 6. I mean come on. Do you really believe that?
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SeattleGriz wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:05 am I'm shocked! No coordinated "insurrection".

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclus ... 021-08-20/
WASHINGTON, Aug 20 (Reuters) - The FBI has found scant evidence that the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was the result of an organized plot to overturn the presidential election result, according to four current and former law enforcement officials.

Though federal officials have arrested more than 570 alleged participants, the FBI at this point believes the violence was not centrally coordinated by far-right groups or prominent supporters of then-President Donald Trump, according to the sources, who have been either directly involved in or briefed regularly on the wide-ranging investigations.
BTW I don't think there were many, if any, people who thought that there was centralized, organized plotting beyond just getting people all fired up, encouraging them to show up, then whipping up a frenzy. But it was still an insurrection by definition.
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JohnStOnge wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 5:23 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:05 am I'm shocked! No coordinated "insurrection".

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclus ... 021-08-20/

BTW I don't think there were many, if any, people who thought that there was centralized, organized plotting beyond just getting people all fired up, encouraging them to show up, then whipping up a frenzy. But it was still an insurrection by definition.
Sure there was. By the FBI.
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JohnStOnge wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 5:16 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 1:01 pm

Not at all. After their debacle in Michigan and then their supposed inability to sniff out the "insurrection", it smells like they were involved in Jan 6th and want investigation stopped now.
The FBI wasn't involved in January 6. I mean come on. Do you really believe that?
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JohnStOnge wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:05 am I'm shocked! No coordinated "insurrection".

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclus ... 021-08-20/
But it was still an insurrection by definition.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:05 am I'm shocked! No coordinated "insurrection".

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclus ... 021-08-20/
WASHINGTON, Aug 20 (Reuters) - The FBI has found scant evidence that the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was the result of an organized plot to overturn the presidential election result, according to four current and former law enforcement officials.

Though federal officials have arrested more than 570 alleged participants, the FBI at this point believes the violence was not centrally coordinated by far-right groups or prominent supporters of then-President Donald Trump, according to the sources, who have been either directly involved in or briefed regularly on the wide-ranging investigations.
:rofl:

Dude I can't tell if you've lost a step or were never very quick to begin with. :ohno:

Didn't you see the pics of the booger-eaters at the Capitol with their t-shirts commemerating the event? :ohno:

Seriously, dude... :ohno:
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If true, I expect Merrick Garland to go after True The Vote, not the ballot traffickers.. :lol:

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021 ... stigation/

The document says that True The Vote has spent the last several months since late last year collecting more than 27 terabytes of geospatial and temporal data—a total of 10 trillion cell phone pings—between Oct. 1 and Nov. 6 in targeted areas in Georgia, Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Texas. The data includes geofenced points of interest like ballot dropbox locations, as well as UPS stores and select government, commercial, and non-governmental organization (NGO) facilities.

“From this we have thus far developed precise patterns of life for 242 suspected ballot traffickers in Georgia and 202 traffickers in Arizona,” True The Vote’s document says. “According to the data, each trafficker went to an average of 23 ballot dropboxes.”

In other words, what the document says is that True The Vote was able to take cell phone ping data on a mass wide scale and piece together that several people—suspected ballot harvesters—were making multiple trips to multiple drop boxes, raising potential legal questions in a number of these states.
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Movement on AZ audit. Routers, Splunk log access. Supposedly a report on the vote count comes out in the next week too.

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SeattleGriz wrote:Movement on AZ audit. Routers, Splunk log access. Supposedly a report on the vote count comes out in the next week too.

Is it now 6 months behind schedule? I’ve lost track. Image


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Ibanez wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 11:29 am
SeattleGriz wrote:Movement on AZ audit. Routers, Splunk log access. Supposedly a report on the vote count comes out in the next week too.

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I just assumed the delay was to place the results closer to the upcoming elections. Don't want the buzz to fizzle out.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 12:38 pm
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I just assumed the delay was to place the results closer to the upcoming elections. Don't want the buzz to fizzle out.
I assumed it was because of incompetence and buffoonery.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 8:22 am Movement on AZ audit. Routers, Splunk log access. Supposedly a report on the vote count comes out in the next week too.

I'm curious what the hope to find in the routers. :?
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SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 12:38 pm
Ibanez wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 11:29 am
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I just assumed the delay was to place the results closer to the upcoming elections. Don't want the buzz to fizzle out.
Oh. That's possible. I thought it was because the people executing this audit don't know what they're doing. :mrgreen: It's like when I had a roofer come fix my HVAC system. I didn't care that it wasn't the right guy for the job as long as I got the result I wanted. :stir: :stir: :stir: :fuel: :fuel: :fuel:
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Skjellyfetti wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 2:56 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 8:22 am Movement on AZ audit. Routers, Splunk log access. Supposedly a report on the vote count comes out in the next week too.

I'm curious what the hope to find in the routers. :?
Yeah - I've already gone down this road a few months ago. All they'll get from those are credentials, configuration files, maybe some passwords, MAC and IP addresses (as long as the leases haven't expired).

All I can think of is that by examining the routers, if the data persists, they'll determine if there was any hack..? At the very least if they were connected to the internet on election day...? Even if they were - is that evidence of a crime or hack and would that negate the findings from 2 or 3 audits that have determined the election results to be accurate? The Republicans LOVE a witch hunt.
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This is one hell of an insurrection. Wonder why the Feds didn't want this (and many hours more) of this kind of footage getting to the public.

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SDHornet wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:24 pm This is one hell of an insurrection. Wonder why the Feds didn't want this (and many hours more) of this kind of footage getting to the public.

Look like a bunch of sheep.
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Gil Dobie wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:29 pm
SDHornet wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:24 pm This is one hell of an insurrection. Wonder why the Feds didn't want this (and many hours more) of this kind of footage getting to the public.

Look like a bunch of sheep.
But this almost over-threw our gubmint...or so we are told.
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SDHornet wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:31 pm
Gil Dobie wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:29 pm

Look like a bunch of sheep.
But this almost over-threw our gubmint...or so we are told.
They probably thought they did.
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Gil Dobie wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:34 pm
SDHornet wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:31 pm

But this almost over-threw our gubmint...or so we are told.
They probably thought they did.
Lord knows the left sure thought so. :dunce: :dunce: :dunce:
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AZGrizFan wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 9:30 pm
Gil Dobie wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:34 pm

They probably thought they did.
Lord knows the left sure thought so. :dunce: :dunce: :dunce:
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