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JohnStOnge wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:37 pm

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:20 pm

A comparison of Trump and Biden's questions from about the 2:20-4:05 mark:

I don't know if I should , or . Absolutely comical in how the town halls were set up by CNN & ABC to be pro Biden and anti Trump..

That is SUCH crap. What the Town Halls showed is that Trump is a fish out of water when he's not dealing with his cult members.

Winterborn wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:48 pm

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:23 pm 2 weeks ago drove to Saint Augustine Beach, FL (Trump won that county, Saint Johns, by 33 pts in 2016), where spent a week+ Drove alot off insterstate/rural 2-4 lane highway in rural western VA, Carolinas & GA. Similar on the way back this past week. Saw literally 100+ places with Trump signs/flags, and ONE place with a Biden flag (one off the beach) in St Augustine Beach. Also several dozen Trump bumper stickers, only a couple of Biden. If yard signs/flags are any indication, Trump will win in a landslide.

Try driving the back roads of the upper Great Plains. Hardly a farm yard (or equipment in the field) goes by that you don't see something Trump related.

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:51 pm

JohnStOnge wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:37 pm

That is SUCH crap. What the Town Halls showed is that Trump is a fish out of water when he's not dealing with his cult members.

The crap is that Trump got fastballs, amd Biden got softballs that barely crossed the plate.

JohnStOnge wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:52 pm

Winterborn wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:48 pm

Try driving the back roads of the upper Great Plains. Hardly a farm yard (or equipment in the field) goes by that you don't see something Trump related.

The majority of people in this country do not want Trump. Our system gives him a chance as it did last time. The COVID-19 situation in which intelligent people want to vote by mail , while idiots who think it's a hoax and tend to support Trump do not, increase his chances. But make no mistake: Trump is not and will not be the choice of "The People."

Let's hope he's not the choice at all because him being President is very bad for this country.

Winterborn wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:02 pm

JohnStOnge wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:52 pm
The majority of people in this country do not want Trump. Our system gives him a chance as it did last time. The COVID-19 situation in which intelligent people want to vote by mail , while idiots who think it's a hoax and tend to support Trump do not, increase his chances. But make no mistake: Trump is not and will not be the choice of "The People."

Let's hope he's not the choice at all because him being President is very bad for this country.

Sounds bigoted.

Or do you mean certain Native American tribes? I believe there were several of them that their name for themselves translated into "The People". I honestly haven't checked lately what their voting patterns are so you could be right in that regards.

UNI88 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:06 pm

Winterborn wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:02 pm

Sounds bigoted.

Or do you mean certain Native American tribes? I believe there were several of them that their name for themselves translated into "The People". I honestly haven't checked lately what their voting patterns are so you could be right in that regards.

FYP - If JSO is correct then people who want Trump are a minority group and need protection from people with liberal privilege.

Winterborn wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:10 pm

UNI88 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:06 pm
FYP - If JSO is correct then people who want Trump are a minority group and need protection from people with liberal privilege.

Is there money involved in being protected? I would like to open a casino/bar someday and could use a bit of help. My vote is for sale.

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 5:43 am

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:42 pm One reason to get a 9th justice confirmed prior to the election, is this election could be a repeat of 2000, with SCOTUS having to get involved. Only 8 jutices would leave the potential for a 4-4 tie, resulting in even more post election chaos.

AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:30 pm It’s Sunday.

Ibanez wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 6:58 am

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:42 pm One reason to get a 9th justice confirmed prior to the election, is this election could be a repeat of 2000, with SCOTUS having to get involved. Only 8 jutices would leave the potential for a 4-4 tie, resulting in even more post election chaos.

You don't think chaos will ensue with a 5-4, Conservative split of the bench? Especially after a contentious nomination and confirmation? You're underestimating your opponents.

GannonFan wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 8:38 am

Ibanez wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 6:58 am

You don't think chaos will ensue with a 5-4, Conservative split of the bench? Especially after a contentious nomination and confirmation? You're underestimating your opponents.

I think the GOP is taking the position now that it doesn't matter what they do, chaos is going to abound anyway no matter what position is taken on replacing Ginsberg. If you run that through the Nash equilibrium, if chaos is going to happen anyway, might as well move ahead with a nomination. Dems were already leaning towards packing the court before Ginsberg passed, and they'll likely do so once they get control again anyway. Going to be crazy times in DC over the next decade as both parties do whatever they can to consolidate power.

Ibanez wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 6:58 am

AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:30 pm It’s Sunday.

No, it's Tuesday.

JohnStOnge wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:52 pm

Winterborn wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:48 pm

Try driving the back roads of the upper Great Plains. Hardly a farm yard (or equipment in the field) goes by that you don't see something Trump related.

The majority of people in this country do not want Trump. Our system gives him a chance as it did last time. The COVID-19 situation in which intelligent people want to vote by mail , while idiots who think it's a hoax and tend to support Trump do not, increase his chances. But make no mistake: Trump is not and will not be the choice of "The People."

Let's hope he's not the choice at all because him being President is very bad for this country.

GannonFan wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 8:38 am

Ibanez wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 6:58 am

You don't think chaos will ensue with a 5-4, Conservative split of the bench? Especially after a contentious nomination and confirmation? You're underestimating your opponents.

I think the GOP is taking the position now that it doesn't matter what they do, chaos is going to abound anyway no matter what position is taken on replacing Ginsberg. If you run that through the Nash equilibrium, if chaos is going to happen anyway, might as well move ahead with a nomination. Dems were already leaning towards packing the court before Ginsberg passed, and they'll likely do so once they get control again anyway. Going to be crazy times in DC over the next decade as both parties do whatever they can to consolidate power.

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 5:43 am

SDHornet wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:23 am

GannonFan wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 8:38 am

I think the GOP is taking the position now that it doesn't matter what they do, chaos is going to abound anyway no matter what position is taken on replacing Ginsberg. If you run that through the Nash equilibrium, if chaos is going to happen anyway, might as well move ahead with a nomination. Dems were already leaning towards packing the court before Ginsberg passed, and they'll likely do so once they get control again anyway. Going to be crazy times in DC over the next decade as both parties do whatever they can to consolidate power.

The idea of giving into the Leftist demands in hopes they play fair later is utterly ridiculous. The past 3+ years should be evidence enough.

HI54UNI wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:07 am

SDHornet wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:23 am

The idea of giving into the Leftist demands in hopes they play fair later is utterly ridiculous. The past 3+ years should be evidence enough.

And this is a big reason why many people support Trump. He fights back instead of sitting in the corner apologizing and cowering.

HI54UNI wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:07 am

SDHornet wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:23 am

The idea of giving into the Leftist demands in hopes they play fair later is utterly ridiculous. The past 3+ years should be evidence enough.

And this is a big reason why many people support Trump. He fights back instead of sitting in the corner apologizing and cowering.

GLENN
_GREENWALD

As Joe Rogan’s Platform Grows, So Does the Media and Liberal Backlash. Why? The popular podcast host is a political liberal by all metrics. So what explains the contempt he provokes in liberal circles

kalm wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:45 am Another example of the illiberal left...

GLENN
_GREENWALD

As Joe Rogan’s Platform Grows, So Does the Media and Liberal Backlash. Why? The popular podcast host is a political liberal by all metrics. So what explains the contempt he provokes in liberal circles

https://theintercept.com/2020/09/22/as- ... ciQh_P8DGU

If the standard is that anyone who even entertains debates over the maximalist and most controversial questions in this very new and evolving social movement is to be cast out as radioactive, liberalism and the Democratic Party will be a very small group.

...liberals care far more about proper culture signaling than they do about the much harder and more consequential work of actual politics.

AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:26 pm

HI54UNI wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:07 am
And this is a big reason why many people support Trump. He fights back instead of sitting in the corner apologizing and cowering.

You mean what Obama did for 8 years?