CID1990 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:44 pm
That was an ANFO explosion all the way
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Yep, they said there was a warehouse of it improperly stored nearby. Why you'd place that in a population center seems very third world.
Oh yeah, my bad.
Re: Beirut Lebanon
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 6:18 am
by ∞∞∞
Luckily my entire family was uninjured, but most of their homes suffered shattered windows.
One of my cousin's homes is completely destroyed on the inside though. He lives high up in a skyscraper so there was little in the way to dampen the shock wave. Most my family doesn't live close to the port, but they sent us pics of their neighborhood and the streets were littered with glass, concrete, signage, light posts, wires, condensing units, and dry blood.
The Lebanese gov't is a complete shit show and has been for a while.
Re: Beirut Lebanon
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 6:38 am
by 89Hen
∞∞∞ wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 6:18 am
Luckily my entire family was uninjured
Re: Beirut Lebanon
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 6:41 am
by GannonFan
∞∞∞ wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 6:18 am
Luckily my entire family was uninjured, but most of their homes suffered shattered windows.
One of my cousin's homes is completely destroyed on the inside though. He lives high up in a skyscraper so there was little in the way to dampen the shock wave. Most my family doesn't live close to the port, but they sent us pics of their neighborhood and the streets were littered with glass, concrete, signage, light posts, wires, condensing units, and dry blood.
The Lebanese gov't is a complete shit show and has been for a while.
∞∞∞ wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 6:18 am
Luckily my entire family was uninjured
Re: Beirut Lebanon
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 7:42 am
by kalm
∞∞∞ wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 6:18 am
Luckily my entire family was uninjured, but most of their homes suffered shattered windows.
One of my cousin's homes is completely destroyed on the inside though. He lives high up in a skyscraper so there was little in the way to dampen the shock wave. Most my family doesn't live close to the port, but they sent us pics of their neighborhood and the streets were littered with glass, concrete, signage, light posts, wires, condensing units, and dry blood.
The Lebanese gov't is a complete shit show and has been for a while.
Glad to hear, Tripster.
Re: Beirut Lebanon
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 9:02 am
by dbackjon
∞∞∞ wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 6:18 am
Luckily my entire family was uninjured, but most of their homes suffered shattered windows.
One of my cousin's homes is completely destroyed on the inside though. He lives high up in a skyscraper so there was little in the way to dampen the shock wave. Most my family doesn't live close to the port, but they sent us pics of their neighborhood and the streets were littered with glass, concrete, signage, light posts, wires, condensing units, and dry blood.
The Lebanese gov't is a complete shit show and has been for a while.
∞∞∞ wrote:Luckily my entire family was uninjured, but most of their homes suffered shattered windows.
One of my cousin's homes is completely destroyed on the inside though. He lives high up in a skyscraper so there was little in the way to dampen the shock wave. Most my family doesn't live close to the port, but they sent us pics of their neighborhood and the streets were littered with glass, concrete, signage, light posts, wires, condensing units, and dry blood.
The Lebanese gov't is a complete shit show and has been for a while.
That’s good news, dude.
Whenever something goes boom in Lebanon the first thing that comes to mind is Hezbollah but this time it really does seem like a fuck up. People in Beirut just can’t catch a break.
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Re: Beirut Lebanon
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 2:54 pm
by 89Hen
Trip, can you tell us what it's really like there? Are people happy? Want change? What is the end game?
Lebanon was all over our news in the 80's but I am really ignorant on what it's really like. Most of what I "know" is from the movie Spy Game, which I can watch every time it's on from start to finish.
Re: Beirut Lebanon
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 3:17 pm
by ∞∞∞
It's been really bad for a few years, even before this. Back to Rafic Harriri, the politicians have been robbing the nation. Taxes kept going up, but services were being cut and mismanaged. It's gotten critical in the last 4-5 years and taxing WhatsApp broke the camel's back. Months long nationwide protests happened but when the pandemic hit, the government found an excuse to really clamp down. Before yesterday's explosion, the country was in dire need of food and supplies as inflation had exploded during the lock downs.
As inflation and shortages grew, lots of people began to pull money out of the central bank at once. The government then said the money wasn't there and everyone could only pull out $200/mo...basically solidifying that various powers were literally robbing the country.
Common people have wanted change for years. Every politician and party (including Hezbollah) is hated, but all of them have strongmen, militias, and a core of radical supporters. Voter intimidation and outright violence is a huge problem. I think if given the opportunity though, most people would have every politician hanging in the streets right now.
Lebanon is a mismanaged country, but it's also fairly liberal for the Middle East. It has night clubs, bars, topless beaches, religious diversity, etc. The American University of Beirut is still the premier university in the entire region. Tons Lebanese citizens - possibly most - even want to open up relations with Israel. Lebanese LOVE the west (clothing, movies, music, etc.) in no small part to its French connection and large number of diaspora in the West. If there are two countries closest aligned with the West - culturally speaking - it's Israel and Lebanon.
∞∞∞ wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 3:17 pm
It's been really bad for a few years, even before this. Back to Rafic Harriri, the politicians have been robbing the nation. Taxes kept going up, but services were being cut and mismanaged. It's gotten critical in the last 4-5 years and taxing WhatsApp broke the camel's back. Months long nationwide protests happened but when the pandemic hit, the government found an excuse to really clamp down. Before yesterday's explosion, the country was in dire need of food and supplies as inflation had exploded during the lock downs.
As inflation and shortages grew, lots of people began to pull money out of the central bank at once. The government then said the money wasn't there and everyone could only pull out $200/mo...basically solidifying that various powers were literally robbing the country.
Common people have wanted change for years. Every politician and party (including Hezbollah) is hated, but all of them have strongmen, militias, and a core of radical supporters. Voter intimidation and outright violence is a huge problem. I think if given the opportunity though, most people would have every politician hanging in the streets right now.
Lebanon is a mismanaged country, but it's also fairly liberal for the Middle East. It has night clubs, bars, topless beaches, religious diversity, etc. The American University of Beirut is still the premier university in the entire region. Tons Lebanese citizens - possibly most - even want to open up relations with Israel. Lebanese LOVE the west (clothing, movies, music, etc.) in no small part to its French connection and large number of diaspora in the West. If there are two countries closest aligned with the West - culturally speaking - it's Israel and Lebanon.
Plus the odd and little known fact that about 80% of Lebanese are Catholic.
∞∞∞ wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 3:17 pm
It's been really bad for a few years, even before this. Back to Rafic Harriri, the politicians have been robbing the nation. Taxes kept going up, but services were being cut and mismanaged. It's gotten critical in the last 4-5 years and taxing WhatsApp broke the camel's back. Months long nationwide protests happened but when the pandemic hit, the government found an excuse to really clamp down. Before yesterday's explosion, the country was in dire need of food and supplies as inflation had exploded during the lock downs.
As inflation and shortages grew, lots of people began to pull money out of the central bank at once. The government then said the money wasn't there and everyone could only pull out $200/mo...basically solidifying that various powers were literally robbing the country.
Common people have wanted change for years. Every politician and party (including Hezbollah) is hated, but all of them have strongmen, militias, and a core of radical supporters. Voter intimidation and outright violence is a huge problem. I think if given the opportunity though, most people would have every politician hanging in the streets right now.
Lebanon is a mismanaged country, but it's also fairly liberal for the Middle East. It has night clubs, bars, topless beaches, religious diversity, etc. The American University of Beirut is still the premier university in the entire region. Tons Lebanese citizens - possibly most - even want to open up relations with Israel. Lebanese LOVE the west (clothing, movies, music, etc.) in no small part to its French connection and large number of diaspora in the West. If there are two countries closest aligned with the West - culturally speaking - it's Israel and Lebanon.
Plus the odd and little known fact that about 80% of Lebanese are Catholic.
Plus the odd and little known fact that about 80% of Lebanese are Catholic.
Did you chizzy that number?
Actually, my best friend is Lebanese....he told me that. That’s about as good of a source as I could come up with.
And actually, I misspoke. It’s not “catholic”, but Christian.
Re: Beirut Lebanon
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 9:32 pm
by AZGrizFan
Lol...and I just looked at Wiki and was waaaaay off. Oh well. Still surprising how many Christians there are in that country.....
Re: Beirut Lebanon
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 9:35 pm
by UNI88
AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 9:32 pm
Lol...and I just looked at Wiki and was waaaaay off. Oh well. Still surprising how many Christians there are in that country.....
Lebanon is a very religiously diverse country - various Christian rites, Shia, Sunni, Druze, etc.
Re: Beirut Lebanon
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 5:36 am
by CID1990
I don’t think it is 80%
But in the 80s the Christian militias and the Muslim militias all seemed about evenly matched, so there is definitely no huge majority/minority. But I’m just guessing based on my own take without looking it up