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Re: How Trump Wins

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Ivytalk wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 11:54 am
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No need to do anything. Just give them time and they will do it to themselves.
That’s right. CA is imploding as we type. Here’s a link to an article that spells out some reasons. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... vUq12EPKEH
I believe California will decommission over 3500MW of power generation in the next 5 years. The rolling brown outs are just getting started.
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Ivytalk wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 11:54 am
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No need to do anything. Just give them time and they will do it to themselves.
That’s right. CA is imploding as we type. Here’s a link to an article that spells out some reasons. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... vUq12EPKEH

As long as they don't decide to go home
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houndawg wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:09 pm
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Fri Aug 28, 2020 11:54 am


That’s right. CA is imploding as we type. Here’s a link to an article that spells out some reasons. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... vUq12EPKEH

As long as they don't decide to go home
I am not sure Mexico would take them back.
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Agreed. Plus, he's so good at sucking the air out of the room that everything, 24/7, is about him. He's despicable, but you can't stop talking about him. Couple that with the Dems just being an absolute mess right now and you can feel it swinging towards Trump again. I'm already seeing the signs again here in Bucks County, PA (one of the Philly suburbs that tend to decide PA) that it's swinging towards Trump again. The BLM stuff isn't helping the Dems because they picked an old white man who didn't want his kids going to an inner city school (and sent them to a nice, mostly-white private school) and who wrote the Crime Bill that locked up a generation of Black young men, and because Kamala's background in criminal justice isn't going to excite that base. When you don't see either party worth voting for, then your only outlet is to hit the streets. That's what they're doing. Biden can't win without the Black vote.
Biden’s daughter. I hear that they used to call her the “snow queen” at school because, well, you know...
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Winterborn wrote:
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And if a frog had wings he wouldn't whomp his ass hopping - you can't just get rid of the world's sixth largest economy. :coffee:
No need to do anything. Just give them time and they will do it to themselves.
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Biden’s daughter. I hear that they used to call her the “snow queen” at school because, well, you know...
We had a girl like that in high school (catholic school). We called her "blow pop." :coffee:



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Winterborn wrote:
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As long as they don't decide to go home
I am not sure Mexico would take them back.
Most of their fanilies have been here since CA was part of Mexico. Wrong crowd. :coffee:
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houndawg wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 11:09 am
Winterborn wrote:
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I am not sure Mexico would take them back.
Most of their fanilies have been here since CA was part of Mexico. Wrong crowd. :coffee:
Sure......

A friendly suggestion, you might want to let the moonshine still clean out a bit more before sampling it. :thumb:
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Winterborn wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 11:19 am
houndawg wrote:
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Most of their fanilies have been here since CA was part of Mexico. Wrong crowd. :coffee:
Sure......

A friendly suggestion, you might want to let the moonshine still clean out a bit more before sampling it. :thumb:
I watched the influx first hand growing up back in the day - the trash blew in from the east. :nod:

Probably before the best of you ran down your dad's leg. :coffee:
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Michael Moore’s take...lack of enthusiasm for Biden while high pitched fervor for Trump in swing states. Also, Biden won’t be visiting Michigan. Echoes of 2016.


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kalm wrote:
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Michael Moore’s take...lack of enthusiasm for Biden while high pitched fervor for Trump in swing states. Also, Biden won’t be visiting Michigan. Echoes of 2016.


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kalm wrote:Michael Moore’s take...lack of enthusiasm for Biden while high pitched fervor for Trump in swing states. Also, Biden won’t be visiting Michigan. Echoes of 2016.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... 16-warning
Why would you even bother with what that fat cunt thinks?

Hes a complete choad and he’s lucky the Reaper has been distracted by COVID


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houndawg wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 11:28 am
Winterborn wrote:
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Sure......

A friendly suggestion, you might want to let the moonshine still clean out a bit more before sampling it. :thumb:
I watched the influx first hand growing up back in the day - the trash blew in from the east. :nod:

Probably before the best of you ran down your dad's leg. :coffee:
Well when you have been around since dirt was rocks, that insults describes just about everybody.
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Winterborn wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 9:24 pm
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I watched the influx first hand growing up back in the day - the trash blew in from the east. :nod:

Probably before the best of you ran down your dad's leg. :coffee:
Well when you have been around since dirt was rocks, that insults describes just about everybody.
Your tap out is accepted :coffee:
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kalm wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:01 pm
Michael Moore’s take...lack of enthusiasm for Biden while high pitched fervor for Trump in swing states. Also, Biden won’t be visiting Michigan. Echoes of 2016.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... 16-warning
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CID1990 wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 9:10 pm
kalm wrote:Michael Moore’s take...lack of enthusiasm for Biden while high pitched fervor for Trump in swing states. Also, Biden won’t be visiting Michigan. Echoes of 2016.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... 16-warning
Why would you even bother with what that fat cunt thinks?

Hes a complete choad and he’s lucky the Reaper has been distracted by COVID


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Meh. He’s been right about somethings including making a similar prediction around the same time in 2016.

The level of Trump support/his approval rating at this point is surprising.
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houndawg wrote:
Sun Aug 30, 2020 3:26 am
Winterborn wrote:
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Well when you have been around since dirt was rocks, that insults describes just about everybody.
Your tap out is accepted :coffee:
Since 1850, 17.7M of Californian residents have come from Mexico. The next highest is New York and Texas, at 5.3M and 5.1M respectively. Since we were talking generalities, that covers the question at hand. :coffee:


And since you remind me of my late grandfather, I will throw you a bone and say that in the 40's it was Illinois, in the 50's and 60's was Texas , 70's New York. So you're recollections are not wrong prior to 1970, it is just that since then Mexican immigration into California has dwarfed anybody else by several orders of magnitude.



For anybody wanting to look at U.S. migration patterns the University of Washington has a site for their "America's Great Migrations Project" that is fascinating if one wants to delve a bit deeper.


http://depts.washington.edu/moving1/
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kalm wrote:
Sun Aug 30, 2020 7:17 am
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Sat Aug 29, 2020 9:10 pm

Why would you even bother with what that fat cunt thinks?

Hes a complete choad and he’s lucky the Reaper has been distracted by COVID


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Meh. He’s been right about somethings including making a similar prediction around the same time in 2016.

The level of Trump support/his approval rating at this point is surprising.
again...not when considering the alternative.
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Winterborn wrote:
Sun Aug 30, 2020 7:34 am
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Your tap out is accepted :coffee:
Since 1850, 17.7M of Californian residents have come from Mexico. The next highest is New York and Texas, at 5.3M and 5.1M respectively. Since we were talking generalities, that covers the question at hand. :coffee:


And since you remind me of my late grandfather, I will throw you a bone and say that in the 40's it was Illinois, in the 50's and 60's was Texas , 70's New York. So you're recollections are not wrong prior to 1970, it is just that since then Mexican immigration into California has dwarfed anybody else by several orders of magnitude.



For anybody wanting to look at U.S. migration patterns the University of Washington has a site for their "America's Great Migrations Project" that is fascinating if one wants to delve a bit deeper.


http://depts.washington.edu/moving1/
I think Mexicans are a positive addition to the nation - Cobden, IL wouldn't still be here if it weren't for the Mexicans.
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CID1990 wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 9:10 pm
kalm wrote:Michael Moore’s take...lack of enthusiasm for Biden while high pitched fervor for Trump in swing states. Also, Biden won’t be visiting Michigan. Echoes of 2016.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... 16-warning
Why would you even bother with what that fat cunt thinks?

Hes a complete choad and he’s lucky the Reaper has been distracted by COVID


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Because he was right about '16 before everybody?
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houndawg wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
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Why would you even bother with what that fat cunt thinks?

Hes a complete choad and he’s lucky the Reaper has been distracted by COVID


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Because he was right about '16 before everybody?
Diabetes has been asleep at the switch with that choad since 2000


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93henfan wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:18 pm
kalm wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:01 pm
Michael Moore’s take...lack of enthusiasm for Biden while high pitched fervor for Trump in swing states. Also, Biden won’t be visiting Michigan. Echoes of 2016.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... 16-warning
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CID1990 wrote:
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Because he was right about '16 before everybody?
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true dat, but he was ahead of the curve in '16, including the Donald's team, and he's starting to get nervous abou November
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houndawg wrote:
Sun Aug 30, 2020 3:27 am
kalm wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:01 pm
Michael Moore’s take...lack of enthusiasm for Biden while high pitched fervor for Trump in swing states. Also, Biden won’t be visiting Michigan. Echoes of 2016.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... 16-warning
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I have to admit, that thought has popped into my head from time to time. The mad rush to nominate Biden to stave off a Bernie nomination may have been the right short term approach but wrong in the long term.
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Said it many times, but this country is ripe for electing a candidate who could combine liberal economic populism with Trump's nativist and nationalist populism. Problem is that's the opposite of what many people who fund campaigns want, so the Donks are stuck with an economic platform that nobody outside of Democratic Underground really likes and trying to pander to the prog left by using wokeness that's going to turn more people off than you win back.

The best historical analogue IMO is 2004 with a lame Democrat nominee who just assumes the Republican incumbent will defeat himself.
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