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Re: 2020 Republican Convention

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So who’s going to lead each side in this fantasy civil war scenario?

General Trump? Colonel Cliven Bundy?

Vs.

Guerilla leader Sarah McLaughlin or some rail-thin tatted and pierced skater chick from Reed College?
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Ivytalk wrote: Mon Aug 31, 2020 7:25 pm
CID1990 wrote: Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:53 am Way too many people conflate Trump being the cause of our problems with being a symptom of them.

Most of the bile out there on social media and the mass media existed well before Trump ever ran for the GOP nomination

Everybody is firmly ensconced in their trenches, everybody hates each other from behind a keyboard but not in person, and everybody wants to taunt and enflame the other side. The left has reacted VERY poorly to this... and it remains to be seen how the right will behave when being taunted by the left when their own demagogue is in office. Maybe they’ll remain like the comparatively benign Tea Party. Or maybe we are just in a progressive cycle of escalation.

But acting like a bunch of cunts in response to the other side’s cunts is not acceptable. And I blame Trump for very little of what is happening on the streets. Saying that he’s at fault smells a lot like the people who clutch their pearls over criticisms of Islam that leads rando Muslims to go berzerk... it is infantilizing legitimate protest


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CID1990 wrote: Mon Aug 31, 2020 7:50 pm
BDKJMU wrote: My $$ would be on the nutters from the right. Better armed. Better trained...
... said the Romanovs

and Diem

and Bautista

and Arena

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And King George.

No, I agree with BDK. I think the Right would initially win any confrontation. Maybe not the "war" but certainly the first few fights.
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Ivytalk wrote: Sun Aug 30, 2020 5:41 am
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kalm wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:28 am So who’s going to lead each side in this fantasy civil war scenario?

General Trump? Colonel Cliven Bundy?

Vs.

Guerilla leader Sarah McLaughlin or some rail-thin tatted and pierced skater chick from Reed College?
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Re: 2020 Republican Convention

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Skjellyfetti wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:18 am
kalm wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:28 am So who’s going to lead each side in this fantasy civil war scenario?

General Trump? Colonel Cliven Bundy?

Vs.

Guerilla leader Sarah McLaughlin or some rail-thin tatted and pierced skater chick from Reed College?
BLM cavalry

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Re: 2020 Republican Convention

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Ibanez wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:40 am
CID1990 wrote: Mon Aug 31, 2020 7:50 pm
... said the Romanovs

and Diem

and Bautista

and Arena

etc etc


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And King George.

No, I agree with BDK. I think the Right would initially win any confrontation. Maybe not the "war" but certainly the first few fights.
Considering how much is vested in the United States by foreign interests, and the economic ties we have all over the place, a second US civil war probably has a high chance turning into a global conflict. At minimum, each side would become proxies to other nations.

Every civil war scenario I ever see posted (and conks sure love 'em) seems to think it'll happen in some sort of vacuum. That didn't even happen in the first one, and now the US is one of the biggest players in a globalized world.

(CID is right though.)
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∞∞∞ wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:57 am
Ibanez wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:40 am
And King George.

No, I agree with BDK. I think the Right would initially win any confrontation. Maybe not the "war" but certainly the first few fights.
Considering how much is vested in the United States by foreign interests, and the economic ties we have all over the place, a second US civil war probably has a high chance turning into a global conflict. At minimum, each side would become proxies to other nations.

Every civil war scenario I ever see posted (and conks sure love 'em) seems to think it'll happen in some sort of vacuum. That didn't even happen in the first one, and now the US is one of the biggest players in a globalized world.

(CID is right though.)
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∞∞∞ wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:57 am
Ibanez wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:40 am
And King George.

No, I agree with BDK. I think the Right would initially win any confrontation. Maybe not the "war" but certainly the first few fights.
Considering how much is vested in the United States by foreign interests, and the economic ties we have all over the place, a second US civil war probably has a high chance turning into a global conflict. At minimum, each side would become proxies to other nations.

Every civil war scenario I ever see posted (and conks sure love 'em) seems to think it'll happen in some sort of vacuum. That didn't even happen in the first one, and now the US is one of the biggest players in a globalized world.

(CID is right though.)
Who really thinks there will be winners after a modern civil war? The vast majority of the survivors will be worse off than if the war had never occurred.
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UNI88 wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:43 am
∞∞∞ wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:57 am

Considering how much is vested in the United States by foreign interests, and the economic ties we have all over the place, a second US civil war probably has a high chance turning into a global conflict. At minimum, each side would become proxies to other nations.

Every civil war scenario I ever see posted (and conks sure love 'em) seems to think it'll happen in some sort of vacuum. That didn't even happen in the first one, and now the US is one of the biggest players in a globalized world.

(CID is right though.)
Who really thinks there will be winners after a modern civil war? The vast majority of the survivors will be worse off than if the war had never occurred.
Depends on which side wins.

And I don't think there will be a Civil War, donk controlled cities are being allowed to be burned down by their elected donk leaders. Those with the means are fleeing or will flee. What will be left to fight over? Why would conservatives spend effort trying to save these cities that are being, or will be ravaged? Additionally, I don't see how the logistics works out for those dense population centers if the food supply/chain is stopped.
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Re: 2020 Republican Convention

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UNI88 wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:43 am
∞∞∞ wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:57 am

Considering how much is vested in the United States by foreign interests, and the economic ties we have all over the place, a second US civil war probably has a high chance turning into a global conflict. At minimum, each side would become proxies to other nations.

Every civil war scenario I ever see posted (and conks sure love 'em) seems to think it'll happen in some sort of vacuum. That didn't even happen in the first one, and now the US is one of the biggest players in a globalized world.

(CID is right though.)
Who really thinks there will be winners after a modern civil war? The vast majority of the survivors will be worse off than if the war had never occurred.
If a Civil War comes, i'm heading up to the cabin in Western NC. I'll join the Resistance if I have to go all Swamp Fox on some SJWs.
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SDHornet wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:57 am
UNI88 wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:43 am

Who really thinks there will be winners after a modern civil war? The vast majority of the survivors will be worse off than if the war had never occurred.
Depends on which side wins.

And I don't think there will be a Civil War, donk controlled cities are being allowed to be burned down by their elected donk leaders. Those with the means are fleeing or will flee. What will be left to fight over? Why would conservatives spend effort trying to save these cities that are being, or will be ravaged? Additionally, I don't see how the logistics works out for those dense population centers if the food supply/chain is stopped.
At least the people complaining about gentrification will get their way and get their city back. Of course it will have little to no value, no restaurants or shops or services. But at least they'll have it back.


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President Trump on Tuesday denied that he made an emergency visit to the hospital last year after suffering "a series of mini-strokes" after a new book claimed that Vice President Pence was on standby in the event Trump was incapacitated.

The president's denial raised eyebrows, as the book from New York Times correspondent Michael Schmidt did not specifically state that Trump had suffered from a series of small strokes.
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Re: 2020 Republican Convention

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Ibanez wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:40 am And King George.

No, I agree with BDK. I think the Right would initially win any confrontation. Maybe not the "war" but certainly the first few fights.
Considering how much is vested in the United States by foreign interests, and the economic ties we have all over the place, a second US civil war probably has a high chance turning into a global conflict. At minimum, each side would become proxies to other nations.

Every civil war scenario I ever see posted (and conks sure love 'em) seems to think it'll happen in some sort of vacuum. That didn't even happen in the first one, and now the US is one of the biggest players in a globalized world.

(CID is right though.)
It most certainly would happen in at least a regional vacuum.

The world stage might see some monetary shifting away from the dollar, and the UN would posture and that’s about it. But it is all a fantasy wet dream for Mom’s basement Maoists and Proud Boys

No other country in the world has the ability to project power across oceans, and land wars in Asia and Europe aren’t going to happen.

This is just not very well thought through and lacks any understanding of military capabilities around the world.

Add to this that the US military is quite insulated from these domestic squabbles. The entire country would need to be approaching Sarajevo status before our military would even consider getting involved. So our readiness to defend our borders and approaches will remain intact even through the worst of domestic circumstances.

Right now these shenanigans are still isolated to a few urban areas. But the minute things start to get out of hand the National Guards will be deployed. Very little muscle has been flexed with these riotous groups yet, but there is a line beyond which political leaders at local and state levels will conclude that dropping the hammer is better politically than doing nothing.


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