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From a friends Facebook page. How would you address this?
So today I had an employee ask if it would be okay to hang the confederate flag in our place of business. I asked why? He said it’s part of our history.

I won’t go into my response here. My question for all of my professional friends here in Eastern Washington and North Idaho. How would you address this question in your place of business?

If I have tagged you, know you are a respected professional in my world and the Spokane/ CDA community. Not asking for a response but, would be happy to listen to your ideas on this issue.
In my 40 plus years, in my many professional rolls, I’ve never had to respond to this question. The funny thing is I was not surprised when I heard the question. We all say we have come along way. Have we? How do you respond to this question in your place of business?
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kalm wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 6:04 am
From a friends Facebook page. How would you address this?
So today I had an employee ask if it would be okay to hang the confederate flag in our place of business. I asked why? He said it’s part of our history.

I won’t go into my response here. My question for all of my professional friends here in Eastern Washington and North Idaho. How would you address this question in your place of business?

If I have tagged you, know you are a respected professional in my world and the Spokane/ CDA community. Not asking for a response but, would be happy to listen to your ideas on this issue.
In my 40 plus years, in my many professional rolls, I’ve never had to respond to this question. The funny thing is I was not surprised when I heard the question. We all say we have come along way. Have we? How do you respond to this question in your place of business?
This is easy. I have practiced "arguing in question form" for decades.
So my first question to the person with the request is, "Do you think this would offend some people?"
Then: "Do you think it is good business to offend some people?"
And so on and so on until the idea is completely defeated.

Unless, of course, the business is selling Civil War artifacts and memorabilia. :lol:

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kalm wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 6:04 am
From a friends Facebook page. How would you address this?
So today I had an employee ask if it would be okay to hang the confederate flag in our place of business. I asked why? He said it’s part of our history.

I won’t go into my response here. My question for all of my professional friends here in Eastern Washington and North Idaho. How would you address this question in your place of business?

If I have tagged you, know you are a respected professional in my world and the Spokane/ CDA community. Not asking for a response but, would be happy to listen to your ideas on this issue.
In my 40 plus years, in my many professional rolls, I’ve never had to respond to this question. The funny thing is I was not surprised when I heard the question. We all say we have come along way. Have we? How do you respond to this question in your place of business?
I thought Citdawg lived in Missoula? Or is the Palouse a last bastion of the confederacy?

The answer is no. Flaggy's approach to getting there is a good one.

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Would we be as concerned about offending people if it were someone in the work place wanting to fly a Palestinian flag?
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UNI88 wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 7:59 am
kalm wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 6:04 am
From a friends Facebook page. How would you address this?

I thought Citdawg lived in Missoula? Or is the Palouse a last bastion of the confederacy?

The answer is no. Flaggy's approach to getting there is a good one.
Agree, Flaggy's approach is a good one.

My company in Minnesota would not allow it for sure. Might even get shown the door, but I think they would warn you to take it down first.
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No.

When you own the business, you can put it up.
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Pwns wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 8:00 am
Would we be as concerned about offending people if it were someone in the work place wanting to fly a Palestinian flag?
You could have a living, breathing Palestinian customer or employee. When did the last living confederate die?

People who want to hang confederate flags complain about the overly sensitive, politically correct people that are offended by it and then when they're denied, become overly sensitive about other displays. If they want people to have thicker skin, maybe they should model having thicker skin.

Final answer: I probably would because there is no reason to risk alienating customers or other employees.

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In situations like these the response should always be "what would Donald Trump do?"
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Gil Dobie wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 8:10 am
UNI88 wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 7:59 am


I thought Citdawg lived in Missoula? Or is the Palouse a last bastion of the confederacy?

The answer is no. Flaggy's approach to getting there is a good one.
Agree, Flaggy's approach is a good one.

My company in Minnesota would not allow it for sure. Might even get shown the door, but I think they would warn you to take it down first.
Hmmm. I’d have taken a bit more of a direct approach.

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Pwns wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 8:00 am
Would we be as concerned about offending people if it were someone in the work place wanting to fly a Palestinian flag?
This is America. Only one flag allowed to be flown. :coffee: :coffee:
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CAA Flagship wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 7:14 am
kalm wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 6:04 am
From a friends Facebook page. How would you address this?

This is easy. I have practiced "arguing in question form" for decades.
So my first question to the person with the request is, "Do you think this would offend some people?"
Then: "Do you think it is good business to offend some people?"
And so on and so on until the idea is completely defeated.

Unless, of course, the business is selling Civil War artifacts and memorabilia. :lol:
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Flaggy's response works. Assuming as was said that this is not a Civil War memorabilia store. But when push comes to shove, if it's my store, I ultimately decide what gets displayed in my store, and there's no way I would ever fly that flag, or even show it, with anything I'm associated with. Problem solved.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 7:33 pm
Pwns wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 8:00 am
Would we be as concerned about offending people if it were someone in the work place wanting to fly a Palestinian flag?
This is America. Only one flag allowed to be flown. :coffee: :coffee:
Sounds more like Russia. Is this Russia, Danny? This isn’t Russia.
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UNI88 wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 8:40 am
Pwns wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 8:00 am
Would we be as concerned about offending people if it were someone in the work place wanting to fly a Palestinian flag?
You could have a living, breathing Palestinian customer or employee. When did the last living confederate die?

People who want to hang confederate flags complain about the overly sensitive, politically correct people that are offended by it and then when they're denied, become overly sensitive about other displays. If they want people to have thicker skin, maybe they should model having thicker skin.

Final answer: I probably would because there is no reason to risk alienating customers or other employees.
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CAA Flagship wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:21 am
UNI88 wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 8:40 am

You could have a living, breathing Palestinian customer or employee. When did the last living confederate die?

People who want to hang confederate flags complain about the overly sensitive, politically correct people that are offended by it and then when they're denied, become overly sensitive about other displays. If they want people to have thicker skin, maybe they should model having thicker skin.

Final answer: I probably would because there is no reason to risk alienating customers or other employees.
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kalm wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:12 am
AZGrizFan wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 7:33 pm


This is America. Only one flag allowed to be flown. :coffee: :coffee:
Sounds more like Russia. Is this Russia, Danny? This isn’t Russia.
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My personal opinion is that there is nothing wrong with the Battle Flag of the Army of Northern Virginia. But I would say "no" because it would cause shit.
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Was anyone else disappointed after seeing this thread title?

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DuckDuckGriz wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:15 pm
Was anyone else disappointed after seeing this thread title?
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How about this "Are you a big fan of losing teams?"
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kalm wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 6:04 am
From a friends Facebook page. How would you address this?
So today I had an employee ask if it would be okay to hang the confederate flag in our place of business. I asked why? He said it’s part of our history.

I won’t go into my response here. My question for all of my professional friends here in Eastern Washington and North Idaho. How would you address this question in your place of business?

If I have tagged you, know you are a respected professional in my world and the Spokane/ CDA community. Not asking for a response but, would be happy to listen to your ideas on this issue.
In my 40 plus years, in my many professional rolls, I’ve never had to respond to this question. The funny thing is I was not surprised when I heard the question. We all say we have come along way. Have we? How do you respond to this question in your place of business?
Which one? The 1st National? 2nd National? 3rd National? Battle Flag (every confederate army had their own version)? 1st Navy Jack? 2nd Navy Jack (sometimes simply referred to as the Navy Jack)? 1st Navy Ensign? 2nd Navy Ensign? Bonnie Blue?
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I’d go with “no” even though I have a battle flag that wasn’t surrendered at home. Not appropriate at business.

I’d treat it as any other flag other than “Old Glory” or your state flag which should always be flown, imho.


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kalm wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 6:04 am
From a friends Facebook page. How would you address this?
So today I had an employee ask if it would be okay to hang the confederate flag in our place of business. I asked why? He said it’s part of our history.

I won’t go into my response here. My question for all of my professional friends here in Eastern Washington and North Idaho. How would you address this question in your place of business?

If I have tagged you, know you are a respected professional in my world and the Spokane/ CDA community. Not asking for a response but, would be happy to listen to your ideas on this issue.
In my 40 plus years, in my many professional rolls, I’ve never had to respond to this question. The funny thing is I was not surprised when I heard the question. We all say we have come along way. Have we? How do you respond to this question in your place of business?
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BDKJMU wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:45 pm
kalm wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 6:04 am
From a friends Facebook page. How would you address this?

Which one? The 1st National? 2nd National? 3rd National? Battle Flag (every confederate army had their own version)? 1st Navy Jack? 2nd Navy Jack (sometimes simply referred to as the Navy Jack)? 1st Navy Ensign? 2nd Navy Ensign? Bonnie Blue?
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Re: Confederate hanging

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LeadBolt wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 3:30 am
I’d go with “no” even though I have a battle flag that wasn’t surrendered at home. Not appropriate at business.

I’d treat it as any other flag other than “Old Glory” or your state flag which should always be flown, imho.


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