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Skjellyfetti wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:56 am

Skjellyfetti wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:56 am

89Hen wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:34 pm Because I'm not voting for Biden and I'm tired of the whiny libs complaining about popular vote vs EC.

Pwns wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:50 am Self-explanatory thread title. I did not vote for Trump the first time around but I'm voting tomorrow and will almost surely vote for him.

My reasons listed from least important to most important.

1. Jo Jorgensen's willingness to pander to the anti-police crowd is nauseating and the LP as a whole doesn't want to deal with issues I think are important (see #4).

2. The Green Party appears to be not even trying, isn't fighting to stay on the ballots, isn't trying to make the case to Bernie voters and proggies to vote for them, is too far left across the board, and won't address issues I think re important (see #4).

3. Joe Biden absolutely deserves to lose for making a blatantly token pick for VP whose support in the Dem primaries was underwhelming while most everyone except the JSOs and deep-blue Donk partisans know Joe isn't going to last 4 years doing the normal duties of the office. For anyone that would say "but Trump is old, too", he's much more likely to last because he spends so much of his day watching TV and Tweeting.

4. I think there is a definite illiberal streak within the left that's dangerous and has been growing alarmingly powerful. It's entrenched within the media, within big Tech, and within our colleges and unlike Trump you can't vote it out. It's not just the cancel culture and Orwellian censorship by Tech companies, it's everything from the very dangerous antagonizing of police (which is just going to mean more crime and more black people in urban areas dying) to the agenda of "social justice" that any economic and social discrepancies between groups of people must be explained by systemic bias or some "-ism". It's not just a few scattered cases of PC run amok, it's everywhere and it'll just be emboldened with Biden and Harris in the White House. The power of mobs is derived from how afraid people are to cross them and that will just get worse if there's no Trump.

And *the* biggest reason for me that tipped the scales and helped me make up my mind.

5. If Trump gets completely boatraced the Democrats will overplay their hand and let fringe elements in the party have seats at the table and come 2022 we'll end up with a red tsunami election that will just increase the level of crazy in congress.

kalm wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:48 am 1. Biden will turn us into Venezuela

2). Herd immunity

3). My portfolio

4). Country music

5). Science can’t be trusted

6). Cheap gas

7). The confederate flag

8). If I’m smart and work hard I too can become a deal artist and plate everything in gold.

9). God

10. I’m white

AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:21 pm #4 alone is enough to never vote for a Democrat ever again.

JohnStOnge wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:46 pm

AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:21 pm #4 alone is enough to never vote for a Democrat ever again.

#4 is total nonsense. Tech companies, for example, are not engaged in "Orwellian censorship." They are just trying to respond to misinformation being distributed. And, unfortunately, most of the misinformation being distributed right now is coming from the right. It is the more dishonest side. It is what it is.

JohnStOnge wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:46 pm

AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:21 pm #4 alone is enough to never vote for a Democrat ever again.

#4 is total nonsense. Tech companies, for example, are not engaged in "Orwellian censorship." They are just trying to respond to misinformation being distributed. And, unfortunately, most of the misinformation being distributed right now is coming from the right. It is the more dishonest side. It is what it is.

AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 7:30 pm

JohnStOnge wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:46 pm

#4 is total nonsense. Tech companies, for example, are not engaged in "Orwellian censorship." They are just trying to respond to misinformation being distributed. And, unfortunately, most of the misinformation being distributed right now is coming from the right. It is the more dishonest side. It is what it is.

And you’re exhibit A for why #4 alone is enough. You, a self proclaimed “conservative” or libertarian, spouting that bullshit. They do it. They admit they do it. They’ve been caught on camera GLOATING about doing it. It’s essentially common knowledge. But in your case of TDS, you can’t see what’s as plain as the nose on your face.

SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:46 pm

89Hen wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:34 pm Because I'm not voting for Biden and I'm tired of the whiny libs complaining about popular vote vs EC.

Well, that too! Plus I know of at least 10 Leftists on Facebook I can get to unfriend me if I gloat enough over a Trump victory.

TheDancinMonarch wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 11:05 pm Back on topic but not because I disagree with the last 2 posts. Actually I quite enjoyed them!

Trump ranks right up there with Nixon, Gore, Kerry and Clinton as the most unlikeable Presidential candidates in my voting lifetime. But this isn't about who I would invite to dinner. It is about policy promised and delivered. Trump didn't get my vote in '16 but he gets it this year. Maybe a pair of gloves will be necessary but vote for him I will. And I don't even want to mention how scary is the idea of this crowd of Democrats in control of the Presidency and the Senate and the House.

89Hen wrote: ↑Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:27 am