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mainejeff wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:55 pm Does disliking Trump automatically make you a liberal?

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:25 pm

mainejeff wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:55 pm Does disliking Trump automatically make you a liberal?

No, but most of your MSM people are liberal.
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BDKJMU wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:51 pm If the conks tried to have Hannity or Tucker Carlson as the debate moderator, of course the donks would never go along with that. Yet the conks are willing to go along with the opposite.

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:21 pm Biden:
-Arbraham Lincoln was one of the most racist presidents.
-Starts talking about the ‘Poor Boys’

SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:46 pm

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:21 pm Biden:
-Arbraham Lincoln was one of the most racist presidents.
-Starts talking about the ‘Poor Boys’

I love poor boy sandwiches. That group sounds cool.

"The idea I want to eliminate private insurance — not one person with private insurance would lose their health insurance under my plan. Nor did they under Obamacare. They did not lose their insurance unless they chose [that] they wanted to go to something else."

That is incorrect. Millions of policyholders with plans in the individual health insurance market saw their plans canceled in 2013 because they did not comply with Obamacare regulations. The policyholders did not choose to cancel their plans.

The exact number is not known. The Associated Press estimated that 4.7 million people lost their plans. A later survey by the Urban Institute found that the number was lower, but still substantial, at 2.6 million.

SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:46 pm

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:21 pm Biden:
-Arbraham Lincoln was one of the most racist presidents.
-Starts talking about the ‘Poor Boys’

I love poor boy sandwiches. That group sounds cool.

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:00 pm Biden “I have never said I oppose fracking”.
Trump: “You said it on tape”
Biden: “Show the tape. Put it on your website.”
Trump: “I’ll put it on”
Biden: “Put it in the website. The fact of the matter is he’s flat lying.”


At the Erie, PA Trump rally 2 days ago. Starts at the 1:20 mark:


I would run that video as a commericial ad nauseum in PA and eastern Ohio..

President Trump’s statement that he “terminated” the individual mandate isn’t quite true.

The 2017 Republican tax cuts did reduce the penalty for not having insurance to $0. That’s as close as Republican lawmakers could get to repealing the Affordable Care Act.

The mandate required that all U.S. residents either have health insurance or pay a penalty. It was intended to help keep the premiums for ACA policies low by ensuring that more healthy people entered the health insurance market, to offset the cost of people with higher health costs.

Making the penalty $0 opened a new avenue of attack against the entire ACA in the courts. Back in 2012, the ACA had been upheld as constitutional by the U.S. Supreme Court, because the penalty was essentially a tax, and Congress is allowed to create a new tax.

In December 2018, a federal judge in Texas ruled that because the penalty is now $0, it’s a command, not a tax, and is therefore unconstitutional. He also reasoned that it cannot be cut off from the rest of the law, so he judged the whole law to be unconstitutional. The case has gone all the way to the Supreme Court and is set to be argued Nov. 10, just after the election.

andy7171 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:43 am I'm confused as to why Joe continued to stand behind statements that have been refuted and easily defeated. Like the fracking flip flopping. And saying no one lost their health insurance. Do people inside PA not hear what he says outside PA? Or vic versa? Or how 6M people lost their plans? I mean WTF?

Ibanez wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:57 am

andy7171 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:43 am I'm confused as to why Joe continued to stand behind statements that have been refuted and easily defeated. Like the fracking flip flopping. And saying no one lost their health insurance. Do people inside PA not hear what he says outside PA? Or vic versa? Or how 6M people lost their plans? I mean WTF?

I feel that way about anything any Politician says. ESPECIALLY when you're on video saying it.

kalm wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:59 am

Ibanez wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:57 am

I feel that way about anything any Politician says. ESPECIALLY when you're on video saying it.

BREAKING NEWS!!!

Andy just learned that politicians are dishonest.

andy7171 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:43 am I'm confused as to why Joe continued to stand behind statements that have been refuted and easily defeated. Like the fracking flip flopping. And saying no one lost their health insurance. Do people inside PA not hear what he says outside PA? Or vic versa? Or how 6M people lost their plans? I mean WTF?