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AZGrizFan wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 10:26 am
UNI88 wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 9:53 am
Let's go single payer without government intervention. Everyone buys their insurance on the market. Gives liberals single payer and keeps government out of insurance for conservatives. People become much better healthcare consumers. Win/win/win!
I'm confused. Doesnt' everyone ALREADY buy their insurance on the market? The advantage being if you're part of a medium/large employee group, you're given an advantage for a "group" rate, from a risk standpoint....
Single payer without government intervention means that there are no group plans.
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UNI88 wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 10:27 am
GannonFan wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 10:01 am

Well, we do have the lionshare of the medical innovations and medical-related Nobel prizes, the vast majority of the research happens here, and so on and so on. I'm not saying it's ideal, it's far from it, but you asked for a benefit and I gave it to you.
While imperfect, our systems drive innovation. Believing or pretending that there will not be unintended consequences from changing those systems is naive and foolish. That doesn't mean that we can't change those systems but we should do so with serious consideration. Just copying what another country does might not be the best course of action.
No one is suggesting that here.

The innovations can remain with private providers and research. The biggest short comings are profit taking and admin.
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kalm wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 2:55 pm
UNI88 wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 10:27 am
While imperfect, our systems drive innovation. Believing or pretending that there will not be unintended consequences from changing those systems is naive and foolish. That doesn't mean that we can't change those systems but we should do so with serious consideration. Just copying what another country does might not be the best course of action.
No one is suggesting that here.

The innovations can remain with private providers and research. The biggest short comings are profit taking and admin.
Profits are a carrot that helps drive innovation.

Admin is going to improve in a government run program? If you believe that, I have some oceanfront property outside of Fargo to sell you.
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CID1990 wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 2:26 pm
UNI88 wrote:
Let's go single payer without government intervention. Everyone buys their insurance on the market. Gives liberals single payer and keeps government out of insurance for conservatives. People become much better healthcare consumers. Win/win/win!
Hang on lemme check

Nope. Your plan is probably racists

Because minorities won’t be able to figure out how to navigate it or something


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UNI88 wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 3:09 pm
kalm wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 2:55 pm

No one is suggesting that here.

The innovations can remain with private providers and research. The biggest short comings are profit taking and admin.
Profits are a carrot that helps drive innovation.

Admin is going to improve in a government run program? If you believe that, I have some oceanfront property outside of Fargo to sell you.
Innovation has little to do with billing.

Admin costs can be reduced through government programs. See VA and Medicare.
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kalm wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 4:54 pm
UNI88 wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 3:09 pm

Profits are a carrot that helps drive innovation.

Admin is going to improve in a government run program? If you believe that, I have some oceanfront property outside of Fargo to sell you.
Innovation has little to do with billing.

Admin costs can be reduced through government programs. See VA and Medicare.
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kalm wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 4:54 pm
UNI88 wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 3:09 pm

Profits are a carrot that helps drive innovation.

Admin is going to improve in a government run program? If you believe that, I have some oceanfront property outside of Fargo to sell you.
Innovation has little to do with billing.

Admin costs can be reduced through government programs. See VA and Medicare.
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kalm wrote:
UNI88 wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 3:09 pm Profits are a carrot that helps drive innovation.

Admin is going to improve in a government run program? If you believe that, I have some oceanfront property outside of Fargo to sell you.
Innovation has little to do with billing.

Admin costs can be reduced through government programs. See VA and Medicare.
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AZGrizFan wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 10:15 pm
kalm wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 4:54 pm

Innovation has little to do with billing.

Admin costs can be reduced through government programs. See VA and Medicare.
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What? They don’t deliver service with lower administrative costs?
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Buttajudge proves himself to be a total fraud.

The gist: Rode in a suburban (armored?) (what does that get to the gallon?) to within a few hundred yards of a cabinet meeting. Had it stop. Got a bike out the back, and rode the rest of the way to make it appear to the cameras he rode a bike to work, you know for that lib Green cred..Except he got busted doing it, despite CNN playing along. What a fraud.. :lol:
https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2021/04 ... ng-n354346
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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Mar 31, 2021 9:16 pm
JohnStOnge wrote: Wed Mar 31, 2021 6:58 pm I think being transgender is a disorder. But in Googling around I don't see anything to indicate that Rachel Levine (who is confused and thinks he is a she) should be characterized as a "failed public health officer."

If he were picked strictly because he thinks he is a she I would not agree with that. But I don't think he is a "failed public health officer" that is not qualified for the position.
Dr. Levine, Pennsylvania’s former health secretary signed an order on March 18, 2020, for the state’s nursing homes to accept patients who previously had or were hospitalized with the coronavirus. The decision led to more than 12,000 senior deaths, accounting for more than half of Pennsylvania’s total.

Days before Dr. Levine signed her nursing home directive, she took her 95-year-old mother out of a personal care home, after she was notified of residents nearby who tested positive for the coronavirus.

Moreover, reports from the state indicate that there’s been official undercounting of nursing home deaths — exactly the same crime New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo has been accused of.
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The only reason Levine got the Assist Sec health nomination from Biden is because of identity politics. If he wasn't a he pretending to be a she, he wouldn't have gotten the nomination.
What I see is an opinion piece from the Washington Times. That's kind of like citing Sean Hannity. But I'll look into it.
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That didn't take long: https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did ... hs-1562802

Question: Did Biden's Health Pick Put COVID-19 Patients Into Nursing Homes?

Ruling: False.
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JohnStOnge wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:00 pm That didn't take long: https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did ... hs-1562802

Question: Did Biden's Health Pick Put COVID-19 Patients Into Nursing Homes?

Ruling: False.
Lol, right in your link:
"must continue to accept new admissions and receive readmissions for current residents who have been discharged from the hospital who are stable. This may include stable patients who have had the COVID-19 virus."
Ruling true.
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BDKJMU wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 4:53 pm Buttajudge proves himself to be a total fraud.

The gist: Rode in a suburban (armored?) (what does that get to the gallon?) to within a few hundred yards of a cabinet meeting. Had it stop. Got a bike out the back, and rode the rest of the way to make it appear to the cameras he rode a bike to work, you know for that lib Green cred..Except he got busted doing it, despite CNN playing along. What a fraud.. :lol:
https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2021/04 ... ng-n354346
:flag: Redundant post, 15 yards and loss of down ...
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UNI88 wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:12 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 4:53 pm Buttajudge proves himself to be a total fraud.

The gist: Rode in a suburban (armored?) (what does that get to the gallon?) to within a few hundred yards of a cabinet meeting. Had it stop. Got a bike out the back, and rode the rest of the way to make it appear to the cameras he rode a bike to work, you know for that lib Green cred..Except he got busted doing it, despite CNN playing along. What a fraud.. :lol:
https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2021/04 ... ng-n354346
:flag: Redundant post, 15 yards and loss of down ...
HI54UNI wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 7:29 pm
His post is blank. I see nothing there on my screen. :?
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BDKJMU wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:20 pm
UNI88 wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:12 pm

:flag: Redundant post, 15 yards and loss of down ...

His post is blank. I see nothing there on my screen. :?
That is because it is a tweet. It is something I have noticed in the past that some tweets/posts don't show up for some reason depending on the device. Example is that the post shows up on my phone but not on my computer. I think it is glitch in the tweet html code.
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BDKJMU wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:20 pm
UNI88 wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:12 pm
:flag: Redundant post, 15 yards and loss of down ...
His post is blank. I see nothing there on my screen. :?
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UNI88 wrote:
BDKJMU wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:20 pm His post is blank. I see nothing there on my screen. :?
"But it ain't his fault
No it ain't his fault
Mighta had a little fun
Lotta wrong he'd done
But it ain't his fault"
Blast it '88 now I am going to have that song stuck in my head again!
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Winterborn wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:26 pm
UNI88 wrote:
"But it ain't his fault
No it ain't his fault
Mighta had a little fun
Lotta wrong he'd done
But it ain't his fault"
Blast it '88 now I am going to have that song stuck in my head again!
:rofl: There are a lot worse lyrics to be stuck in your head.
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Winterborn wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:50 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:20 pm
His post is blank. I see nothing there on my screen. :?
That is because it is a tweet. It is something I have noticed in the past that some tweets/posts don't show up for some reason depending on the device. Example is that the post shows up on my phone but not on my computer. I think it is glitch in the tweet html code.
Yeah, tweet shows up on Iphone, but not on laptop. Weird.
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GannonFan wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 8:53 am
kalm wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 5:19 am

Ain’t perfect? It’s a fucking shit show of epic proportions much of which can be simplified by single payer. Remind me again of how we benefit from for-profit insurers and disparate market driven administration and payment systems?
Well, we did just have pharmaceutical giants, enriched by the admittedly crappy health care and health insurance industry we have in this country that allows these corporations to rake in significant revenue, speed to market in record time no less than 4 different COVID vaccines that are in the process of ending a global pandemic that would've dragged on for years and a lot more death without those vaccines. There's no doubt that we have a system that needs to be fixed, but I think we should acknowledge that letting smart people develop drugs and treatments for us, and then to profit from their work, is a benefit. Why do you hate medical advances? :coffee:
Compare that to the smashing job the European vaccine has done. :lol:
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How did you fucks miss this brilliance. :rofl:

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SDHornet wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:27 am How did you fucks miss this brilliance. :rofl:

It looks like a Nazi flag but it's the United Farm Workers labor union flag.
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UNI88 wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:36 am
SDHornet wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:27 am How did you fucks miss this brilliance. :rofl:

It looks like a Nazi flag but it's the United Farm Workers labor union flag.
I know, the lol is about the butchering of the Spanish.
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