Unless Bernie is "center right," him having real influence shows that the Democratic Party is not completely controlled by the center right and that the woke movement is more than tolerated.kalm wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 6:19 amSo I read this and I’m not sure what it changes.UNI88 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:53 am
'Bernie Sanders has real influence': Vermont's longtime outsider has become a trusted voice in the Biden White House
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* mic dropGannonFan wrote: ↑Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:23 amHeck, I'm amazed that you continue to think that things like voting patterns for all demographics won't also be changing and evolving over the same time. It's like you can't understand things with multiple variables. And that you can't learn from history, given that we've never had an extended time when we only had one party rule. But hey, keep laser focus on that one variable you can understand and just ignore the 98% of the rest of the picture.JohnStOnge wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:35 pm BTW I am honestly amazed that there are people on this board, populated by intelligent people, who cant' see that the demographic evolution is a problem for the Republican Party.
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Ocasio-Cortez: 'Old way of politics' influences Manchin's thinking
Is she so unaware that she doesn't realize that Manchin is a type of Democrat that is endangered by the pseudo-progressives and that her own movement is just as responsible for the death of bipartisanship?“The things that he cites, like this, I think, romanticism of bipartisanship, is about an era of Republicans that simply do not exist anymore,” the progressive lawmaker added.
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The irony that most politicians were like Manchin as few as 30 years ago.UNI88 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:27 am Ocasio-Cortez: 'Old way of politics' influences Manchin's thinking
Is she so unaware that she doesn't realize that Manchin is a type of Democrat that is endangered by the pseudo-progressives and that her own movement is just as responsible for the death of bipartisanship?“The things that he cites, like this, I think, romanticism of bipartisanship, is about an era of Republicans that simply do not exist anymore,” the progressive lawmaker added.
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But "center right" or something...AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:29 amThe irony that most politicians were like Manchin as few as 30 years ago.UNI88 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:27 am Ocasio-Cortez: 'Old way of politics' influences Manchin's thinking
Is she so unaware that she doesn't realize that Manchin is a type of Democrat that is endangered by the pseudo-progressives and that her own movement is just as responsible for the death of bipartisanship?
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When you get pwned by BoJo...
Yeah, Biden* is all there mentally.
Yeah, Biden* is all there mentally.
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Solid Glenn Greenwald thread on Biden* cognitive ability.
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If he were your grandfather and this was happening at the dinner table it would be sad. That it's happening at a meeting of world leaders is pathetic and frightening.
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Has nothing to do with him being old. Has to do with him being senile.
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But at least there are nice tweets.
Or does he even tweet? If he doesn't, I think he should. I would love to read what his stream of conscious sounds like.
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Is this a woke movement easily dismissed or are we going through some hard and necessary changes?
Being listened to and eventual policy outcomes are not one in the same. See $15 minimum wage and how the stimulus package is being dragged down.
We could be heading much further left.
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So because we could be "heading much further left", the leadership of the Democratic Party hasn't moved leftward in the last 30 years? That might be true in bizzaroworld.kalm wrote: ↑Mon Jun 14, 2021 3:06 pmIs this a woke movement easily dismissed or are we going through some hard and necessary changes?
Being listened to and eventual policy outcomes are not one in the same. See $15 minimum wage and how the stimulus package is being dragged down.
We could be heading much further left.
FTR, I'm not buying the argument that a leftward movement is inevitable and the right thing for this country.
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No shit?UNI88 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 14, 2021 3:28 pmSo because we could be "heading much further left", the leadership of the Democratic Party hasn't moved leftward in the last 30 years? That might be true in bizzaroworld.kalm wrote: ↑Mon Jun 14, 2021 3:06 pm
Is this a woke movement easily dismissed or are we going through some hard and necessary changes?
Being listened to and eventual policy outcomes are not one in the same. See $15 minimum wage and how the stimulus package is being dragged down.
We could be heading much further left.
FTR, I'm not buying the argument that a leftward movement is inevitable and the right thing for this country.
There’s more to measuring where a party falls on the spectrum than simply Bernie having Biden’s ear (which I of course think is a good thing). Political outcomes vs rhetoric or negotiating starting points for example.
Plus it depends on which metrics you use from gay marriage to money in politics to economic stimulus to climate change to anti trust.
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This ain't 'Murica, but still funny as hell.
I always make fun of these people eating their own, but now they're starting to eat themselves.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/greta-thunberg-inspired-climate-org-labels-itself-racist-and-disbands/ar-AAL4nUj?ocid=ientp
I always make fun of these people eating their own, but now they're starting to eat themselves.
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The Auckland, New Zealand, chapter of a climate organization inspired by activist Greta Thunberg disbanded itself on Saturday because it was a “racist,” “white-dominated space,” the group announced in a Facebook post on Saturday.
School Strike 4 Climate, a movement of student protests against global warming, began in the wake of Thunberg’s activism and ballooned into widespread student strikes in 2019. Around 20,000 New Zealand students went on strike in March 2019, organized by School Strike New Zealand, which describes itself as “the New Zealand movement of Greta Thunberg’s strikes in Europe.”
The Auckland branch of the group said on Saturday that it had agreed to dissolve.
“BIPOC communities are disproportionately affected by climate change, so the fight for climate justice should be led by their voices and needs, not Pākehā [white New Zealander] ones,” the group wrote on Facebook. “We are disbanding because, since 2019, SS4C AKL (as well as the wider national group, though we can’t speak on their behalf) has been a racist, white-dominated space.”
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So they disband b/c either A) non-whites didn't join or; B) they didn't reach out / recruit enough non-whites?Baldy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:20 am This ain't 'Murica, but still funny as hell.
I always make fun of these people eating their own, but now they're starting to eat themselves.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/greta-thunberg-inspired-climate-org-labels-itself-racist-and-disbands/ar-AAL4nUj?ocid=ientpThe Auckland, New Zealand, chapter of a climate organization inspired by activist Greta Thunberg disbanded itself on Saturday because it was a “racist,” “white-dominated space,” the group announced in a Facebook post on Saturday.
School Strike 4 Climate, a movement of student protests against global warming, began in the wake of Thunberg’s activism and ballooned into widespread student strikes in 2019. Around 20,000 New Zealand students went on strike in March 2019, organized by School Strike New Zealand, which describes itself as “the New Zealand movement of Greta Thunberg’s strikes in Europe.”
The Auckland branch of the group said on Saturday that it had agreed to dissolve.
“BIPOC communities are disproportionately affected by climate change, so the fight for climate justice should be led by their voices and needs, not Pākehā [white New Zealander] ones,” the group wrote on Facebook. “We are disbanding because, since 2019, SS4C AKL (as well as the wider national group, though we can’t speak on their behalf) has been a racist, white-dominated space.”
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Maybe the non-whites didn't realize they are being as impacted by climate change as the whites are saying they are. Very complicated stuff there.Ibanez wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:28 amSo they disband b/c either A) non-whites didn't join or; B) they didn't reach out / recruit enough non-whites?Baldy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:20 am This ain't 'Murica, but still funny as hell.
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How can one simultaneously claim to be ‘post partisan’ AND think Bernie having ANYBODY’S ear is a good thing?kalm wrote: ↑Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:28 pmNo shit?UNI88 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 14, 2021 3:28 pm
So because we could be "heading much further left", the leadership of the Democratic Party hasn't moved leftward in the last 30 years? That might be true in bizzaroworld.
FTR, I'm not buying the argument that a leftward movement is inevitable and the right thing for this country.
There’s more to measuring where a party falls on the spectrum than simply Bernie having Biden’s ear (which I of course think is a good thing). Political outcomes vs rhetoric or negotiating starting points for example.
Plus it depends on which metrics you use from gay marriage to money in politics to economic stimulus to climate change to anti trust.
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Seriously?AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:41 amHow can one simultaneously claim to be ‘post partisan’ AND think Bernie having ANYBODY’S ear is a good thing?kalm wrote: ↑Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:28 pm
No shit?
There’s more to measuring where a party falls on the spectrum than simply Bernie having Biden’s ear (which I of course think is a good thing). Political outcomes vs rhetoric or negotiating starting points for example.
Plus it depends on which metrics you use from gay marriage to money in politics to economic stimulus to climate change to anti trust.
I don’t think it’s a good thing because Bernie is a Democratic Socialist or Democrat or whatever the hell he is. I like some of his ideas because I think they 1) work and 2) provide balance back toward the economic middle.
Post partisan centrist.
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Please outline which of his ideas would a) work and b) provide this mythical “balance” toward the economic middle….
I await with bated breath.
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We’ve more than likely debated them ad nauseam.
Medicare for all.
Money out of politics.
To name a couple. I know you’ll disagree.
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How does Bernie provide balance to move us back toward the economic middle? In many ways we're further left now then we've ever been. Moving back toward the economic middle means ignoring Bernie.kalm wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 10:21 amSeriously?
I don’t think it’s a good thing because Bernie is a Democratic Socialist or Democrat or whatever the hell he is. I like some of his ideas because I think they 1) work and 2) provide balance back toward the economic middle.
Self identifying as a post partisan centrist.
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Hell, I’m still struggling with how you openly declare to be a socialist and actually win elections in this countryUNI88 wrote:How does Bernie provide balance to move us back toward the economic middle? In many ways we're further left now then we've ever been. Moving back toward the economic middle means ignoring Bernie.kalm wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 10:21 am Seriously?
I don’t think it’s a good thing because Bernie is a Democratic Socialist or Democrat or whatever the hell he is. I like some of his ideas because I think they 1) work and 2) provide balance back toward the economic middle.
Self identifying as a post partisan centrist.
90% of what Bernie and the new vanguard of Maoists want to do would require large scale nationalization of most industries at the tip of a bayonet. Part of the shift can be blamed on our awful public education system.
I’ll never vote for that. And I’ll vote with my feet if it becomes mainstream
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But not for the reasons you think.
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