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UNI88 wrote: Sat Aug 28, 2021 1:59 pm FYP
This Gary Johnson? :suspicious:
That Gary Johnson. When it comes to competent administration of an executive branch, Trump isn't good enough to lick out the jam from between Johnson's toes.

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UNI88 wrote: Sat Aug 28, 2021 5:43 pm
BDKJMU wrote: This Gary Johnson? :suspicious:
That Gary Johnson. When it comes to competent administration of an executive branch, Trump isn't good enough to lick out the jam from between Johnson's toes.

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Yeah that’s why, despite the buffonery & mean tweets, Trump got accomplished more in 4 years than any POTUS in our lifetimes, something ‘What is Aleppo’ wouldn’t have had a prayer of doing. :nod:
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BDKJMU wrote: Sat Aug 28, 2021 6:13 pm
UNI88 wrote: Sat Aug 28, 2021 5:43 pm That Gary Johnson. When it comes to competent administration of an executive branch, Trump isn't good enough to lick out the jam from between Johnson's toes.

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Yeah that’s why, despite the buffonery & mean tweets, Trump got accomplished more in 4 years than any POTUS in our lifetimes, something ‘What is Aleppo’ wouldn’t have had a prayer of doing. :nod:
Nothing worse than an activist President. :ohno:
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BDKJMU wrote: Sat Aug 28, 2021 6:13 pm
UNI88 wrote: Sat Aug 28, 2021 5:43 pm That Gary Johnson. When it comes to competent administration of an executive branch, Trump isn't good enough to lick out the jam from between Johnson's toes.
Yeah that’s why, despite the buffonery & mean tweets, Trump got accomplished more in 4 years than any POTUS in our lifetimes, something ‘What is Aleppo’ wouldn’t have had a prayer of doing. :nod:
Trump's presidency was a roller coaster ride of good and bad. IMO, he'll go down in history as a mediocre President. Kind of like how he was a mediocre property developer and B-list reality TV personality.

Congratulations on admitting that Trump was a buffoon. That's progress.
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UNI88 wrote: Sun Aug 29, 2021 7:53 am
BDKJMU wrote: Sat Aug 28, 2021 6:13 pm
Yeah that’s why, despite the buffonery & mean tweets, Trump got accomplished more in 4 years than any POTUS in our lifetimes, something ‘What is Aleppo’ wouldn’t have had a prayer of doing. :nod:
Trump's presidency was a roller coaster ride of good and bad. IMO, he'll go down in history as a mediocre President. Kind of like how he was a mediocre property developer and B-list reality TV personality.

Congratulations on admitting that Trump was a buffoon. That's progress.
And the irony is if he’d put down the phone and been a decent human, I believe he’d go down as one of the great ones with the stuff he accomplished.

Alas, we’ll never know.
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Re: 2024 Primary

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AZGrizFan wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 5:50 pm
UNI88 wrote: Sun Aug 29, 2021 7:53 am
Trump's presidency was a roller coaster ride of good and bad. IMO, he'll go down in history as a mediocre President. Kind of like how he was a mediocre property developer and B-list reality TV personality.

Congratulations on admitting that Trump was a buffoon. That's progress.
And the irony is if he’d put down the phone and been a decent human, I believe he’d go down as one of the great ones with the stuff he accomplished.

Alas, we’ll never know.
You could be right. It's the image stuff that hurts him, not the actual results.
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Re: 2024 Primary

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AZGrizFan wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 5:50 pm
UNI88 wrote: Sun Aug 29, 2021 7:53 am

Trump's presidency was a roller coaster ride of good and bad. IMO, he'll go down in history as a mediocre President. Kind of like how he was a mediocre property developer and B-list reality TV personality.

Congratulations on admitting that Trump was a buffoon. That's progress.
And the irony is if he’d put down the phone and been a decent human, I believe he’d go down as one of the great ones with the stuff he accomplished.

Alas, we’ll never know.
:lol:

Yeah…he was THIS close to Rushmore.
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kalm wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 7:43 pm
AZGrizFan wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 5:50 pm

And the irony is if he’d put down the phone and been a decent human, I believe he’d go down as one of the great ones with the stuff he accomplished.

Alas, we’ll never know.
:lol:

Yeah…he was THIS close to Rushmore.
Again, take out the mean tweets and the general Douchebaggery and his actual policies were pretty good. But hey, I get it, you libs aren’t able to separate the person from the policies. Buncha emotional fucks. :coffee: :coffee:
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AZGrizFan wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 7:44 pm
kalm wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 7:43 pm
:lol:

Yeah…he was THIS close to Rushmore.
Again, take out the mean tweets and the general Douchebaggery and his actual policies were pretty good. But hey, I get it, you libs aren’t able to separate the person from the policies. Buncha emotional fucks. :coffee: :coffee:
Libs tend to think that Obama was THIS close to Rushmore.

In his defense I will say that Trump's handling of COVID was a complete charlie foxtrot (don't want to offend your sensitive sailor ears ;) ).
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Trump lost Wisconsin solely because he was an asshole.

Never Trumpers had a large contingent there and they split their votes between GOP downballot, and for the known retail politician for prez

But - take Donald Trump out of the equation and Never Trumpers remain Republicans ... hawkish Republicans. Minus Trump, Wisconsin as well as other purple states swing for a GOP candidate.

Trump provided a certain sense of cover for hard left Democrats - in thinking that they actually make up a strong voting blic. But that is really an illusion... take away Trump and the Lincoln Republicans come back, and they bring independent Dems (who hate the woke leff) with them.

A Trump-less GOP will win big in 2022 AND 2024


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Re: 2024 Primary

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AZGrizFan wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 7:44 pm
kalm wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 7:43 pm

:lol:

Yeah…he was THIS close to Rushmore.
Again, take out the mean tweets and the general Douchebaggery and his actual policies were pretty good. But hey, I get it, you libs aren’t able to separate the person from the policies. Buncha emotional fucks. :coffee: :coffee:
So now we’re going from “one of the great ones” to “pretty good”. :lol:

Aside from emboldening stupidity (which hurts us in many ways) Trump was a cut tax and spend Republican who weakened environmental laws, while commuting “general douchebaggery”.

70 million people like being represented in that way. :ohno:
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CID1990 wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:50 am Trump lost Wisconsin solely because he was an asshole.

Never Trumpers had a large contingent there and they split their votes between GOP downballot, and for the known retail politician for prez

But - take Donald Trump out of the equation and Never Trumpers remain Republicans ... hawkish Republicans. Minus Trump, Wisconsin as well as other purple states swing for a GOP candidate.

Trump provided a certain sense of cover for hard left Democrats - in thinking that they actually make up a strong voting blic. But that is really an illusion... take away Trump and the Lincoln Republicans come back, and they bring independent Dems (who hate the woke leff) with them.

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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 5:45 am Maybe he’s just trolling..
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/08/3 ... 024-507656
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Ivytalk wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 6:00 am
BDKJMU wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 5:45 am Maybe he’s just trolling..
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/08/3 ... 024-507656
He’ll run unless somebody buys him off at a YUGE price. :coffee:
Maybe he will be another Cleveland?

Personally I do not think so and do not think he would make it through the primaries this time.
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Winterborn wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 6:23 am
Ivytalk wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 6:00 am
He’ll run unless somebody buys him off at a YUGE price. :coffee:
Maybe he will be another Cleveland?

Personally I do not think so and do not think he would make it through the primaries this time.
But he would turn the primaries into a circus and the resulting buffoonery would damage the R candidate.
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UNI88 wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 6:59 am
Winterborn wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 6:23 am

Maybe he will be another Cleveland?

Personally I do not think so and do not think he would make it through the primaries this time.
But he would turn the primaries into a circus and the resulting buffoonery would damage the R candidate.
:nod:

And he would be taking 20 million hard core followers with him if he feels unwanted.

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UNI88 wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 6:59 am
Winterborn wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 6:23 am

Maybe he will be another Cleveland?

Personally I do not think so and do not think he would make it through the primaries this time.
But he would turn the primaries into a circus and the resulting buffoonery would damage the R candidate.
They are already a circus.

If one keeps your cool, the only damage is to Trump. Don't try to beat Trump at his own game, play your own and force Trump to play by your rules.
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kalm wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 7:03 am
UNI88 wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 6:59 am

But he would turn the primaries into a circus and the resulting buffoonery would damage the R candidate.
:nod:

And he would be taking 20 million hard core followers with him if he feels unwanted.

:cry:
Meh, I do not think it will be 20 million but it will be a chunk. Outside of a few diehards, the majority will still vote R because it is that or vote D. And then it comes down to what they hate more. Trump not getting the primary or having a D in office.
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Winterborn wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 7:16 am
kalm wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 7:03 am

:nod:

And he would be taking 20 million hard core followers with him if he feels unwanted.

:cry:
Meh, I do not think it will be 20 million but it will be a chunk. Outside of a few diehards, the majority will still vote R because it is that or vote D. And then it comes down to what they hate more. Trump not getting the primary or having a D in office.
Much of it depends on how slighted he feels.

R candidates will still have to decide whether to kiss the ring during and after the primary.
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kalm wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 7:34 am
Winterborn wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 7:16 am

Meh, I do not think it will be 20 million but it will be a chunk. Outside of a few diehards, the majority will still vote R because it is that or vote D. And then it comes down to what they hate more. Trump not getting the primary or having a D in office.
Much of it depends on how slighted he feels.

R candidates will still have to decide whether to kiss the ring during and after the primary.
:suspicious:

You know he is going to be yugely slighted and offended and then going to try and take his balls home with him.
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Winterborn wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:03 am
kalm wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 7:34 am

Much of it depends on how slighted he feels.

R candidates will still have to decide whether to kiss the ring during and after the primary.
:suspicious:

You know he is going to be yugely slighted and offended and then going to try and take his balls home with him.
And his small hands. Grover Trump.
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kalm wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 5:26 am
CID1990 wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:50 am Trump lost Wisconsin solely because he was an asshole.

Never Trumpers had a large contingent there and they split their votes between GOP downballot, and for the known retail politician for prez

But - take Donald Trump out of the equation and Never Trumpers remain Republicans ... hawkish Republicans. Minus Trump, Wisconsin as well as other purple states swing for a GOP candidate.

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kalm wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 5:24 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 7:44 pm

Again, take out the mean tweets and the general Douchebaggery and his actual policies were pretty good. But hey, I get it, you libs aren’t able to separate the person from the policies. Buncha emotional fucks. :coffee: :coffee:
So now we’re going from “one of the great ones” to “pretty good”. :lol:

Aside from emboldening stupidity (which hurts us in many ways) Trump was a cut tax and spend Republican who weakened environmental laws, while commuting “general douchebaggery”.

70 million people like being represented in that way. :ohno:
Well, given your hyperbole of him being “this close to Rushmore”, I felt I should clarify. Too nuanced for you?
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Winterborn wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:03 am
kalm wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 7:34 am

Much of it depends on how slighted he feels.

R candidates will still have to decide whether to kiss the ring during and after the primary.
:suspicious:

You know he is going to be yugely slighted and offended and then going to try and take his balls home with him.
Yeah…I’m not convinced he’s willing to do that.
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