UNI88 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 06, 2022 12:23 pmYou're right. I really feel for that absolute zero who got his butt kicked by the most disliked politician in the primaries.houndawg wrote:
It speaks to what a zero you have to be to not be able to come withing 2,000,000 votes of the most disliked politician in the nation at the time.
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https://www.newsweek.com/trump-pac-save ... ts-1690144
And this is why the "Trump's power is waning" talk is pure wishful thinking.
Unless he dies or becomes too mentally or physically debilitated to run he could very well pull a Grover Cleveland.
And this is why the "Trump's power is waning" talk is pure wishful thinking.
Unless he dies or becomes too mentally or physically debilitated to run he could very well pull a Grover Cleveland.
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The worse things get under Biden*, the easier it will be for folks to vote for him.Pwns wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 6:57 pm https://www.newsweek.com/trump-pac-save ... ts-1690144
And this is why the "Trump's power is waning" talk is pure wishful thinking.
Unless he dies or becomes too mentally or physically debilitated to run he could very well pull a Grover Cleveland.
That said I'd prefer DeSantis.
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You just insulted the memory of Grover Cleveland, the perennial winner of the Best Presidential Stache contest.Pwns wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 6:57 pm https://www.newsweek.com/trump-pac-save ... ts-1690144
And this is why the "Trump's power is waning" talk is pure wishful thinking.
Unless he dies or becomes too mentally or physically debilitated to run he could very well pull a Grover Cleveland.
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Re: 2024 Primary
Yep. At least until someone faces him head on. And it’s hard to imagine his numbers improving since 2020 until the Dems nominate another disingenuous, preachy, insider candidate like Harris or Buttigieg or Hillary.Pwns wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 6:57 pm https://www.newsweek.com/trump-pac-save ... ts-1690144
And this is why the "Trump's power is waning" talk is pure wishful thinking.
Unless he dies or becomes too mentally or physically debilitated to run he could very well pull a Grover Cleveland.
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But you’ll vote for such a Dem candidate anyway, when push comes to shove. Because that’s what you do.kalm wrote: ↑Fri Mar 25, 2022 6:10 amYep. At least until someone faces him head on. And it’s hard to imagine his numbers improving since 2020 until the Dems nominate another disingenuous, preachy, insider candidate like Harris or Buttigieg or Hillary.Pwns wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 6:57 pm https://www.newsweek.com/trump-pac-save ... ts-1690144
And this is why the "Trump's power is waning" talk is pure wishful thinking.
Unless he dies or becomes too mentally or physically debilitated to run he could very well pull a Grover Cleveland.
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So the WaPoop posted this today...
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That party is FUUUUUUCKED.
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As opposed to a disingenuous, preachy, outsider candidate like Bernie or AOChe?kalm wrote:Yep. At least until someone faces him head on. And it’s hard to imagine his numbers improving since 2020 until the Dems nominate another disingenuous, preachy, insider candidate like Harris or Buttigieg or Hillary.Pwns wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 6:57 pm https://www.newsweek.com/trump-pac-save ... ts-1690144
And this is why the "Trump's power is waning" talk is pure wishful thinking.
Unless he dies or becomes too mentally or physically debilitated to run he could very well pull a Grover Cleveland.
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I’ll allow it.UNI88 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 12:45 pmAs opposed to a disingenuous, preachy, outsider candidate like Bernie or AOChe?kalm wrote:
Yep. At least until someone faces him head on. And it’s hard to imagine his numbers improving since 2020 until the Dems nominate another disingenuous, preachy, insider candidate like Harris or Buttigieg or Hillary.
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Weekend at Bernie’s- Biden is running in 2024..or so he says..
https://nypost.com/2022/04/19/joe-biden ... -2024/amp/
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BDKJMU wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 9:22 am Weekend at Bernie’s- Biden is running in 2024..or so he says..
https://nypost.com/2022/04/19/joe-biden ... -2024/amp/
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As long as Trump runs JB will be OK - remember that Trump couldn't get within 3,000,000 votes of the most unpopular politician of the last 100 years.
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WaPo's Top 10 GOP presidential candidates for 2024, ranked
Who can appeal to the base and independents?10. Mike Pompeo
9. Chris Sununu
8. Glenn Youngkin
7. Ted Cruz
6. Tim Scott
5. Donald Trump Jr.
4. Mike Pence
3. Nikki Haley
2. Ron DeSantis
1. Donald Trump
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May not matter due to the topics the Dem party has decided to get behind.UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 2:01 pm WaPo's Top 10 GOP presidential candidates for 2024, ranked
Who can appeal to the base and independents?10. Mike Pompeo
9. Chris Sununu
8. Glenn Youngkin
7. Ted Cruz
6. Tim Scott
5. Donald Trump Jr.
4. Mike Pence
3. Nikki Haley
2. Ron DeSantis
1. Donald Trump
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I don't know, that's a pretty crappy list too. I would guess that there are quite a few independent types that would rather stay home then vote for Trump or one of his thin-skinned vindictive lickspittles.Winterborn wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 2:19 pmMay not matter due to the topics the Dem party has decided to get behind.UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 2:01 pm WaPo's Top 10 GOP presidential candidates for 2024, ranked
Who can appeal to the base and independents?
Appeal to the MAGAt base: Pompeo, Cruz, Trump Jr., DeSantis, Trump
Appeal to independents and traditional Republicans: Sununu, Haley
Possibly appeal to both: Youngkin, Scott
Not sure who they appeal to: Pence
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As a moderate, does this resonate with you?UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 2:28 pmI don't know, that's a pretty crappy list too. I would guess that there are quite a few independent types that would rather stay home then vote for Trump or one of his thin-skinned vindictive lickspittles.Winterborn wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 2:19 pm
May not matter due to the topics the Dem party has decided to get behind.
Appeal to the MAGAt base: Pompeo, Cruz, Trump Jr., DeSantis, Trump
Appeal to independents and traditional Republicans: Sununu, Haley
Possibly appeal to both: Youngkin, Scott
Not sure who they appeal to: Pence
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You think keeping Brandon in the basement for 18 months of campaigning is gonna work this time?
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Anybody on that list except #1.UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 2:01 pm WaPo's Top 10 GOP presidential candidates for 2024, ranked
Who can appeal to the base and independents?10. Mike Pompeo
9. Chris Sununu
8. Glenn Youngkin
7. Ted Cruz
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I'm not even sure he'll still be above ground then
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I do not disagree, but another 2 1/2 years of Biden/Dems continuing like they have been is going to change peoples perspective a bit I think. No matter what happens this fall, Biden (and thereby the Dems) are going to take the blame for inflation, high gas prices, etc. and the R's are going to run that message all the way to the fall of 2024. Granted the 25th amendment could be invoked for Biden or he steps down (don't see it as a realistic chance but it is possible) and the D's could pivot to a more moderate stance (also do not see this happening) so things could change, as 2 1/2 years is a long time in the political world. I also think the Dems will keep Biden under wraps as long as possible and bury his deteriorating condition until they absolutely can't anymore. This is either going to allow them to pretend all is well or spectacularly blow up in their face when he slips his handlers and does/says something stupid on camera that they can't explain away.UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 2:28 pmI don't know, that's a pretty crappy list too. I would guess that there are quite a few independent types that would rather stay home then vote for Trump or one of his thin-skinned vindictive lickspittles.Winterborn wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 2:19 pm
May not matter due to the topics the Dem party has decided to get behind.
Appeal to the MAGAt base: Pompeo, Cruz, Trump Jr., DeSantis, Trump
Appeal to independents and traditional Republicans: Sununu, Haley
Possibly appeal to both: Youngkin, Scott
Not sure who they appeal to: Pence
That said the only one that is some what interesting to me is DeSantis but that depends if sticks his course or not (if he does than probably not).
- Sununu is not going to run
- Haley is a strong possibility but I have voiced my thoughts on her here before
- Youngkin does not have the experience
- Cruz is an idiot and nobody really likes him but he will try just for the title of former presidential candidate
- Scott is an outside possibility
- Trump Jr. is not going to run and the only reason his name is on the list is his dad
- Pence does not have the name nor pull
- Trump strong possibility but the Dems would have to crater even further for him to win
- Pompeo is a good chance to run but he will not make it out of the first round
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Much more likely that he'd be voting against the Republican candidate.
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If the GOP runs Trump I can't vote for him, and I'm sure there are many just like me out there. If the GOP runs probably anyone but Trump then they win the White House in '24. Trump's best chance for influence now is as a power broker/king maker. That should appeal to his enormous vanity very well.AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 8:40 pmAnybody on that list except #1.UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 2:01 pm WaPo's Top 10 GOP presidential candidates for 2024, ranked
Who can appeal to the base and independents?
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With a few caveats. A reasonable Republican versus Hillary for example….and depending on congressional make up.